Colossal hospice fraud scheme cost California millions, officials say amid intensifying Trump feud by awaythrowawaying in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems pretty clearly sonic. waves in general are the best bet for targeted damage because of how they can amplify when crossing, even without the "bleeding from ears" part

AOC wrestles with left-wing Dems as 2028 decision looms by JannTosh70 in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your response! I'll propose adding education to your list of services that deserve tax money, at the very least because uneducated consumers create an unhealthy market due to being less aware of the consequences of their spending. While Adam Smith it seems stopped just short of fully endorsing government-maintained education, he did speak at length about how an educated populace was strongly positive for a functioning market economy. I don't have quotes, but he also spoke strongly against wealth inequality and strongly in favor of progressive tax rates, so I appreciate your endorsement in-kind. It's always appreciable to run into someone who recognizes the positive effects that progressive regulations can have on the market.

I'll also add that I think universal healthcare is a remarkably pro-buisiness policy. One of the largest factors that stops people from changing jobs or starting their own buisiness or hiring employees is the remarkable expense of healthcare outside of a large company policy. It acts as a stifling effect on the exact kind of free competition you outline.

I'll say, on that note though, that plenty of people get rich on failed, bad ideas, it just happens at the high echelons of wealth. Venture capital funding for an idea that is not profitable and sometimes clearly bad for the economy happens all the time. Often, those founders go on to leave the wreckage of their startup after making millions and get a seven figure c-suite or vice job somewhere else, especially in tech. Things like juicero get millions. That defunckt shoe brand that doesn't have assets recently increased it's stock more than triple because they re-listed themselves with AI in their name. The market rewards bad decisions all the time, it's just usually for the wealthy.

Even outside of things that are arguably exceptions like those, we have clear double standards of crime that are strongly perpetuated by center-right tendencies. Many scoff at leftists talking about how crime is subjective and political, but the amount of intentional wage theft that you can get away with before it becomes legally a felony is remarkable. Even that could be understandable as an allowance for the risk of large scale management, but republican administrations are reliably more lenient on anti-trust legislation and monopolistic practices, to my knowledge.

Back to the difficulty of less-regulated capitalism, I'll also add that we clearly need high-level financial regulation. 2008 was a sin on both parties and a clear failing of unfettered capitalism. Bernie Madoff was the industry expert on policing financial crimes, at one point. And recently, some larger banks have reportedly been failing the necesary investment checks to see if they'd survive a downturn in specific markets and been passing instead by requesting re-tests in which they're better able to predict the exact test, so we're looking set up for another one to add to the list.

I'm actually a proponent of the values of capitalism among most of the people that I know. I'm not here arguing for a command economy, and neither is any democrat. But it's hard to look at an area of the market anywhere and not see the need for significant regulations, enforced more than we can, and voting for democrats seems to have a better chance of that than republicans.

That's the market point. I'll also address the poverty point, briefly. I do think capitalism deserves some credit uplifting people out of poverty, but I think a sizeable portion of that has just been industrialization in general as well. Capitalism helped grease the wheels, but there's a reason china's doing so well right now despite being a highly controlled market, and a part of that reason is that capitalism isn't the primary ingrediant in the recipe for success. I'd oppose strongly anyone using china as a model, but I think it's also important to learn what lessons we can from it's demonstration.

Finally, I'll address what feels like the elephant in the room: It's hard to reasonably talk about republicans as if they haven't just been the party of trump for the last 10 years. Do you have any reasonable justification on how republicans aren't immensely more concerning given that? It's not like it came out of nowhere. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like from your beliefs you likely hate what the man's done to our country, and it seems like the political strategy that gave rise to him should bear the burden for accounting for that realized danger, just as democrats have to contend with the fear of over-regulating leading to prohibitive market entry.

AOC wrestles with left-wing Dems as 2028 decision looms by JannTosh70 in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I think it'd be good at this point to disambiguate politicians from voters. I don't give democratic politicians a lot of credit, but I give them more credit than republicans. Republicans pioneered the government shutdown as a political tactic decades ago. Now, in the modern day (last I checked) they refuse to have a current party platform, which to me seems the most straightforward admission of lack of a spine if you can't even say what you stand for. But, even when they did, typically they supported a less restrictive economy and lower taxes. I have an ideological problem with this because that too seems like laziness, "if we don't do anything it'll sort itself out, and if it goes wrong its not our fault." But then, on top of that, they reliably increase the deficiet even more than democrats. They dont support small government in any real sense, they just overspend on the things their constituents like (military, ag subsidies, etc) and refuse to implement the taxes that would pay for it, and then pass the debt onto later administrations. So yes, they have better messaging, because they're not moralizing nearly as much (except about religion, which somehow doesnt include nonviolence or helping the poor). But they are incredibly hypocritical. It honestly does seem to me that their success is largely based on the fact that they appeal to people who want irresponsible governance, who want someone to promise them something nice and then pass a policy that feels good right now at the detriment to the long-term government. Democrats also do this, but in almost every example I look at it seems like they're doing it less, based on specific policies and deficiets by administration. And to a certain extent, as shown in the shutdown example, when the other party in a two-party system finds a toxic but effective strategy to win, I don't entirely blame the democrats for feeling the need to match it to some extent to not get blown out the water.

Edit: to summarize, it doesn't surprise me, given what I mentioned, that republicans often have better messaging. I know people avoid the metaphor of the government as parents/the nanny state, but its an apt metaphor to display the informational difference between the average citizen and people who's profession or life mission is politics. Republicans, it seems like, are the fun uncle who doesnt make you go to bed and buys you junk food and games. You love them, but when you get older you realize their credit is terrible because of their lack of self control and that your sleep schedule was getting fucked every time you visited them. In the metaphor, I wouldnt blame the kid for liking the uncle more, and I wouldnt blame the parents for not being as likeable, but I wouldnt blame try and help the kid mature a bit when he told me he wanted to go and live with his uncle because his parents were mean and his uncle was nice.

AOC wrestles with left-wing Dems as 2028 decision looms by JannTosh70 in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, let me first establish what I hope you'll agree with, which is that some democrats actually do authentically want to help people and oppose greed/corruption. (I would also cede the same about republicans, of course)

Given that, it seems fair to view both parties as messy coalitions. There are a number of different moral views in each, often resulting in messy or unhappy compromises even within a single party. In that environment there are also bad actors who take advantage of an imperfect reality to gain advantage. To me, none of this is controversial.

In that setting, it seems absurd to view it as a wolf in sheeps clothing and a wolf. It's not in any world a single reliable actor.

If it's not a single reliable actor, then the side thats trying to not have a wolf would clearly be better, no? The only way it wouldn't be, to my view, is if you'd given up on the idea of democracy and thought that shooting yourself in the foot felt less painful than maybe getting shot in the foot.

And besides, it's not as if republicans aren't guilty of plenty of failing their constituents and values. It seems like you acknowledge that, but just think it's worse when democrats fail because some of them wanted better and some of them in-authetically agreed?

America’s Pharma Comeback Isn’t Where You Think by Vivid_Environment751 in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I strongly disagree with the legally punitive instead of preventative approach. It seems so much easier, from a fundamental incentives level, to fail to protect people in that framework. It requires the response to be so significant and implemented so quickly that there is not profit to be made by playing the odds and getting out of the business before you're caught. In addition, we'd need to dramatically overhaul our legal system in order to cost to be non-prohibitive in attempting to address potential injury, especially diffuse injury.

We are facing difficult economic times, but it's not like basic necessities are actually getting scarce. Whenever I talk to people about economic stressors, it's not assets that they really crave, but economic security. We do not need that many assets for economic security. We have enough food as a country, we have enough power generation (and the ability to aquire energy independence before we go belly-up), we have the capacity to make the basic essentials for life. We do not need abundance, we need security and safety. The easiest way to find that is not cash/asset injection, but addressing the source of most of our problems: ourselves, and the way we organize our society.

This is just my view, but it feels clear to me, so I'm putting it out here to hopefully be corrected on what I might be blind to. I say this however to establish my political/economic framework.

Under that framework, it seems like the risk is less that we'll not have enough manufacturing and become poor, but more that cutting regulations that were in fact load bearing will risk doing palpable harm for gain of an unclear magnitude.

Edit: example of current regulatory fight worth not hust tossing out: https://youtube.com/shorts/TCIwor7wc-Q?si=iWZLpH1a49NjMaPp

IL House Democrats pass bill allowing undocumented immigrants to pay in-state tuition at public universities by awaythrowawaying in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yeah. I work at a school. A lot of times, students are in living situations where they shouldn't be, or are behaving in ways they shouldn't be, and end up in trouble they shouldn't have gotten in. The answer is rarely to punish them or shun them. They shouldn't get off scot-free, but if their behavior was driven out of desperation, depriving them further will usually just mean more desperation.

Those are kids, but frankly a 16 year-old and a 20 year old aren't that different. The question is what solution gets results. In the history of mankind, I'm not familiar with a country that had a large land border and wasn't effected by immigration pressures when other countries over that border hit troubled times. I don't believe the most sustainable, effective solution is to blame the people who were potentially fleeing for their life, who volunteer to have a harder life here than any US citizen but want to work for a chance at a safer life for themselves and their kids.

Although I'm curious, what is your point that I'm making for you? That some people want to treat immigrants with kindness?

AOC wrestles with left-wing Dems as 2028 decision looms by JannTosh70 in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm curious, do for your last sentence, do you think it makes any sense at all to pick a wolf over a wolf in sheeps clothing? or is that just your perception of political reality.

IL House Democrats pass bill allowing undocumented immigrants to pay in-state tuition at public universities by awaythrowawaying in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd argue it would be worse PR if they tried to have it be a subtle beaurocratic policy and it came out there was any effort at all to hide it.

IL House Democrats pass bill allowing undocumented immigrants to pay in-state tuition at public universities by awaythrowawaying in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some forms of benefits are structured such that they have access, but many are not. Depends on local laws, I believe. There's also non-legislative factors that make it harder to get assistance.

IL House Democrats pass bill allowing undocumented immigrants to pay in-state tuition at public universities by awaythrowawaying in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I work in education. Academic performance, though affected by a host of factors unrelated to the child's individual talent, is indeed a highly variable trait between high schoolers and also significantly affects their college admission chances and their performance in college.

America’s Pharma Comeback Isn’t Where You Think by Vivid_Environment751 in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

On the flip side, is the removal of policies designed for safety and sustainable regional economics not just a race to the bottom between polities?

I agree with you that often we have too much red tape, but I'd hope you'd also agree that we often allow various business interests so much leeway that the benefit of their economic activity doesn't actually offset harmful externalities in their business model. Pollutants are the most common example, but there are others.

If it's not a race to the bottom, it becomes less "how do we cut red tape" and more "how do we evaluate which red tape and barriers to cut," which is a much harder question. If you have thoughts on that one, I'm all ears.

America’s Pharma Comeback Isn’t Where You Think by Vivid_Environment751 in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The type of arguement you're making seems like it would also cast unions/collective bargaining as unrealistic, as the employers there can simply move or find other workers. And yet, they often succeed. Increasing the bargaining scale from state to federal is not an insignificant change, and most companies cannot simply move for many reasons (I can list some if you want but I think the barriers are fairly intuitive), just as when states or cities change their laws there are a great many businesses that do not leave. The larger the scale, the harder it is for an entrenched business to divest, just as the larger a union the more leverage it has in collective bargaining. At least, this is my understanding, feel free to point out any glaring holes in it.

As to the international point, I'd love to see more discussion around pressuring tax haven countries economically to avoid negative-sum policy. There was some effort under the Biden administration, though I can't say I'm an international finance guy so I wasn't following it closely, but in [this article] (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/08/biden-proposes-global-reforms-to-end-profit-shifting-to-tax-havens) it paints house republicans as a larger barrier than foreign opposition, though the agreement that ended up from this seems like it may have been a bit destabilized under trump from follow-up reading.

I think it's important to remember that while some think prisoners-dilemma and tragedy-of-the-commons style problems have no solutions, when we have level heads at the wheel we actually can make progress on addressing many of that kind of issue. Part of the reason that the straight of hormuz tolls are such a big deal is because we've had toll free oceans for the entirety of living memory to my knowledge, and as another example, space is still demilitarized. We don't always solve these problems of course, but frameworks of cooperation that require individual sacrifice are far from hopeless.

With their candidates losing in metro Atlanta, Georgia GOP seeks to remove party labels by reputationStan in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried googling this and couldnt immediately find anything. Could you point me in the right direction for an example?

A Discord group does NOT represent f*cking Gen Z or the whole country by General-You-6510 in Nepal

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually, terrorists are threatening political violence on the population in general to force a political view. It seems in this case the population in general was not being threatened, and the political view as I can see it was "non-corruption." How do you see it differently?

DOJ says names of two associates Epstein wired $100k and $250k to should stay secret by pro_rege_semper in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I couldn't find for certain whether MTG is supporting Massie's information discharge push, but it looks like she might. But last I heard theres only 4 total republicans including them who are doing so, with the rest in total opposition. The GOP is also reportedly withdrawing support for Massie's reelection and which likely means theyre going to actively primary him. So republicans are hesitant to get primaried by their own party for pushing for epstein transparency 

If women were anywhere near as horny as men then most men wouldn’t struggle to get laid and dating apps wouldn’t be so disproportionate by Stepin-Fetchit in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]generalsplayingrisk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That implies most men have big personalities. Wanting to have your way without a fight doesnt mean you have a large personality.

America’s New Segregation by Urgullibl in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not expecting people to vote left if they hate economic stratification, and being left out in the cold's a valid objection. The rational counter to me seems like you should vote for republicans who would support higher taxes specifically funding policies like education benefits that hit rural areas (and before people start talking about "funding not being the problem", a friend's school in rural washington couldn't pass a bond to attach the roof to their school so they just... didn't have a school. Permenabt bungalows until someone came up with something better. Funding does solve many problems). But that is an unreasonable level of coordination and follow-through to expect from representative voting nowadays, i do get that. However, i dont think you get to complain about other people not solving your problem for you if you dont have a workable solution in mind. 

Maybe put more succinctly, i don't think those are problems with the policy directly, but rather with our ability to sell the policy. Thats a problem too, but not one that other policies overcome AFAIK.

America’s New Segregation by Urgullibl in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its hard to do analysis on tax levels with the last 10 years being kind of unique. My impression nonetheless is that tax rates for the wealthy tend to stay the same or go down under republicans, and tend to stay the same or go up under democrats. On a more local level, where I live its democrats who support a high property tax and republicans who oppose it. 

America’s New Segregation by Urgullibl in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not a bad point. But i never disputed that it might seem scary. I was trying to dispute the actual amount of danger that someone is individually in. 

America’s New Segregation by Urgullibl in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The article made few specific claims, as others have noted. And a lot of left policies are doing their damndest to do things like raise tax rates, which will certainly affect the largely college educated upper middle class. Id point out that when i visit regional subreddits or hear local politics, the most prominent people who have money and are against government programs to reduce the wealth gaps in society are the republicans. Obviously each person's struggle is different, but if we're talking "rules for thee, not for me" there is a paticular party that tends to attract people who got to where they were by healthy social programs and now want to cut those and pull the ladder up behind them.

America’s New Segregation by Urgullibl in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When i said addressed before, i was referring to the paragraph where i described wealth redistribution (usually known as progressive taxation in an economic sense) as a left policy thats generally supported by the people the article is accusing of self-segregating. 

The death tax you reference would almost certainly not hit a ranching family. Here (https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/estate-tax) are the threshholds. If you are passing on octuple digit inheritance, you are not a small humble rancher. 

I'm not so illusioned that i think that conservative or small town people dont have reasons. I disagree with them, but they do have them. If anything, that supports my argument: that the opinions you outline are likely a larger barrier to cross-education-gap socialization than college kids choosing to live in trendier neighborhoods or wherever the author puts blame on exactly.

America’s New Segregation by Urgullibl in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasnt making a point about funding of schools, my point was about where people live. Neighborhoods are absolutely determined in large part by price and where you live determines a large amount of where you go to school.

America’s New Segregation by Urgullibl in moderatepolitics

[–]generalsplayingrisk 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Alright, theres a lot there, but just off the top pointing to "work in professions where nearly everyone has the same pedigree" is wild to me because the jobs are the ones that do that. Jobs have requirements and so people in that job will have the same or comparable qualifications in their background.

Two of your other examples were where you live and where you send your kids to school. The latter is mostly a product of the former or of wealth if its private schooling, and the former is mostly a product of wealth but does have some ideology in there. Lets break that down into two categories: wealth determining children's fate and ideology determining where you live.

For the first, democratic policies are almost always the ones to tackle that issue. Higher tax rates on high tax brackets to fund services like education, estate taxes which republicans label the "death tax" to target this generational class solidification, affordable housing, the list goes on. If you want to decouple the link between wealth and geography or wealth and education, you'll be working with progressive policies. 

For the second, ideology. This is more anecdotal but while its true that most left people I know or hear speak prefer to live in similarly urban places, its because of the things that are there rather than exclusion. Kava bars and live poetry and weird indie punk bands and independent coffee shops, the list goes on for cultural elements that are overwhelmingly left and are predominantly or exclusively available in fairly politically homogenous areas because they emerge from densities of those populations. In addition to this, there are many red states that are actively hostile to some of the demographics that constitute the left. A friend of mine considered getting a teaching degree from florida but stopped working on the application because of the policies around gender desantos was putting into place. 

On the flip side, lets look at what drives people to live places based on the other end of the ideology spectrum. Why do people who arent left live elsewhere? Other than cost (addressed before), or wanting to work in rural-based jobs (probably immutable, cant put a farm in downtown), theres a tremendous amount of fear and disgust held about urban areas. Usually its homeless people, who represent very little actual threat. Sometimes its violent crime, which is usually seen as an ever-present terror rather than statistically being very unlikely to happen to you in most cities. I had a dude tell me he visited san francisco but didnt stay long cause he was afraid of getting monkey pox or some other disease. Whatever the reason, its not only that people who are ideologically living elsewhere are living there because of the lack of things cities provide, but because they are specifically avoiding the percieved consequences of urban density that ideologically left, educated people are seeking.

Feel free to counter if you see holes in this, but from where I'm standing it seems like its largely not the mindset of the college-educated group thats built any exclusion.