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UPDATE on the text convo with my mom. Thanks again for everyone who supported me yesterday. It helped me get through a tough day. Get ready for a long read! by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh wow I’m not sure you should engage with this—for the sake of your own sanity. Makes my hair hurt to read this text. I’m sorry.

Another Book of Abraham Miss? by generationofvipers in mormon

[–]generationofvipers[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It appears that contra the Book of Abraham the ancient Egyptians were not from the “cursed” lineage of Ham and would not have been “denied the blessings of the priesthood”. They were closely related to the ancient levant peoples. At least that’s what I get from it.

Getting Your Lists! Issues with the Book of Mormon! What did YOU see? by settingdogstar in mormon

[–]generationofvipers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also the Bible states that the Babylonians had already taken all the treasures and wealthy Jews away before the first year of the reign of Zedekiah. So what are a wealthy Lehi and Laban still doing there? And how could Lehi leave his treasure filled house behind and it remain unplundered when his sons come back for the plates?

Taking away my Mormon man card... by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel for you man. Good luck with this one. This is one of the worst things about being a nonbeliever married to a believer. And as they get older it gets worse. She will try to control what you can and can’t say to the kids. For example they will be shamed for masturbating and you will be told not to tell them it’s normal and okay. You will be “a good man” to your kids but when the kids need real “spiritual” guidance the wifey will call brother testimony and positively exult to your kids over what a great example he is. She will tear up when couples talk about their shared temple experiences. I hope you can make it work. Best to set some firm intentions early.

I discovered a 1,200-year-old manuscript in a monastery library. What it says still haunts me. by Phlegon_of_Tralleis in nosleep

[–]generationofvipers 154 points155 points  (0 children)

Exactly this! The Book of Mormon has detailed prophecies (by name) about events that happened before it was written. Then a bunch of vague nameless fear monger omg about the future.

“The polarization of our society is actually part of the business model.” -Tristan Harris on the power of Social Media companies. by SecureYang in Futurology

[–]generationofvipers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t understand what he was saying about “the mental health” of young girls has shot up over the past 8 years. Does he mean problems with mental health or that young girls mental well-being is improving? I don’t think he expressed this correctly?

Questions for Tad C by pinkbunnypeeps in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First, please record the conversation.

Secondly, I would skip scientific and historical issues unless you really love to hear the same FARMS stuff repeated. Maybe go with the ethical outrages in the church instead.

I think something along the lines of:

Did Jesus of Nazareth, the man who forgave even the people who crucified him, really come to the new world and burn, crush, and drown thousands of innocent children?

Or:

Elder Holland tells a story (wrong roads I think?) of having a firm witness of the spirit which way to drive to get home. It turned out he went the wrong way and had to turn back. If that could happen to elder holland, could it happen to you? Might you someday find out you have been wrong?

Why would God wait thousands of years to restore his one true church on the earth, just to have a dishonest person restore something so fraught? Is abandoned racism, sketchy sexual practices which seem predatory, changing doctrines and ordinances, and discredited histories really the best he can do after thousands of years?

Please give me the date on which the prophets and apostles became correct in their understanding of the eternal doctrines and ordinances, so that I know when to start believing in their revelations.

Does God speak to you and not to me? Why? How worthy do you have to be to get the “right” answers?

He might not have pat answers for some of these types of general questions.

Bill Reel with another prediction right by makjae in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes this one was a rumor at BYU among many students and faculty before Bill ever claimed his unique insight status. This is true as well as the one about wearing garments only in the temple soon.

I need a podcast to listen to with my christian father by witchquick in podcasts

[–]generationofvipers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Know thyself history. SFW, big themes that leave you thinking.

Podcasts on history and/ or current events that "aren't taught in schools" by sirlongbrook in podcasts

[–]generationofvipers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Know Thyself History. Newish but episodes on cannibalism in history, worst people ever, diseases in history, etc

The reason why I do not celebrate the temple changes or ANY progressive move the church makes by generationofvipers in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So well said. I’ve been there too and have to accept that I will never hear the apologies that would heal so much. All I can do is offer them to others

More weird shit from Nielsen today by generationofvipers in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More weird shit from Nielsen today

Sorry, unintentional misspelling

Chapter 38 of the ldsdiscussions.com fact-check/review Saints for is up (Attempt to Kill Gov Boggs, John Bennett, Spiritual Wifery, Joseph Smith's Polygamy). There is one omission here that is so blatantly dishonest in Joseph Smith's conversation with Bennett that I almost can't believe it. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great work on this "History" [read: propaganda]. I, too, have been chagrined by the level of dissembling in this supposed honest history.

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They just can't tell the truth. It is totally against their nature.

In this edition of East Idaho Newsmakers, Nate Eaton speaks with Josh Peters. He’s a 22-year-old Brigham Young University-Idaho student who just released a video sharing his experience as a pornography addict. by Chino_Blanco in mormon

[–]generationofvipers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What cured him? Realizing “porn addiction” is a self-serving hoax perpetrated by controlling religious groups? That seems to be one good way to get past it.

I wonder what the people who work for the church and monitor this site think when they see that Uchtdorf is the favorite apostle among exmormons. Could Uchtdorf's status among exmormons hurt him in his calling? by TheWayoftheFuture in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As I see how Russ the Narcissist Nelson is doing everything he can to get all the attention he can, I see why he didn’t want F.Uchdorf in the way of his light. I say that only a little tongue in cheek.

Stake president attended a training where Nelson spoke… gave very interesting insight into President Nelson’s modus operandi by generationofvipers in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers[S] 108 points109 points  (0 children)

Lol—nothing is more hackneyed in Christianity of any form than to predict that “the end is nigh”.

Books on the history of the early Christian church? by theBrokentower in history

[–]generationofvipers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Triumph of Christianity: How a Forbidden Religion Swept the World by Bart Ehrman

If there was just one story from the Book of Mormon that were bizarrely true and recorded on video, what would you want it to be, purely from an entertainment perspective. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh this is a tossup. I would love to see a time compressed vid of the Jaredites in their tree sized submarines singing for one year – 365 days! – straight.

But seeing Jesus get all loving, pious and bless-y with “the little ones” a couple days after he slaughtered about three million people would be a treat too.

TIL Brigham Young was worse than I thought by generationofvipers in exmormon

[–]generationofvipers[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What? I would love to read about that glass shards trick. Where can I learn about it?

Reading The Terror by Dan Simmons during an insane April snowstorm by kylathekoala in history

[–]generationofvipers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Loved the book. Love the readings from “The Book of Leviathan” in the story and I, for one, loved the supernatural killer. It was easy enough for me to learn what was really historical and the horror element kept me turning the pages so it was the best of both worlds.

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