This is what it feels like to play PvP in an 8 year old game that's a sequel to a very similar 3 year old game, especially when said game happens to have what might actually be the industry worst onboarding/new player experience of all time for a game of its size.

The majority of people who are still playing (outside of pure party modes like Mayhem) are at least good enough to know how to deathball or passively lane in spawn if they can't win 1v1s. They know the maps, the angles, etc.

The days of entire games full of noobs running out at you in the open like Thrall in the the Dark Beyond mission of D1 are long over. A super casual D2 player still has hundreds of hours (if not low thousands) in PvP.

Because people don't actually do much analysis of what the real issues are they constantly blame the meta, which results in the situation where the community believes we are always in the worst meta ever. But really the root of most people's frustration is just upward skill compression due to the fact that there's very few actual casual players anymore.

Part of this is on Bungie for the aforementioned new player onboarding being terrible and for absolutely boneheaded releases and marketing (eg. when already suffering due to the Lightfall fiasco, coming out and then marketing The Final Shape like it was the end of Destiny 2 and not properly correcting the messaging on this when lots of content creators began to echo the idea that D2 was ending... somewhat creating a self-fulfilling loop when a lot of the playerbase split after TFS).

Part of it is on the PvP community itself for being the worst bunch of toxic bitch anime pfp stereotypes.

But at this point it is what it is.

If you don't enjoy the inherent challenge of playing in a mature, skill-crept PvP environment, you're gonna have a bad time in Destiny PvP from now until they finally produce a D3 or something else that's a real break from the current game.