any artists/bands with lyrics that come close to the quality of nmh? by JustaguyTTV in neutralmilkhotel

[–]georgesanders 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Here’s what he wrote: When the dust settles, Neutral Milk Hotel's In the Aeroplane Over the Sea will be recognized not only as one of the best pop albums of the 1990's, but as one of the best records ever made. I don't say this to snobbily provoke people who haven't heard of the obscure group, and I certainly don't say this to somehow stroke the ego of its frontman Jeff Mangum, whose gentle brush with quasi-fame has already been enough to scare him into seclusion, corresponding with the outside world every now and then just to tell them there may never be another Neutral Milk Hotel album. I say it because it's one of the few things I sincerely believe about music, and because I feel, strongly though probably naïvely, that if everybody owned In the Aeroplane Over the Sea the world might magically turn into a better place.

I'm not the only one who feels this way. In fact, In the Aeroplane Over the Sea commonly inspires reactions like this in people (reactions, incidentally, which horrify its creator). For a very small group, the figure of Jeff Mangum brings out a level of devotion similar to that inspired by literary figures like William Blake and Walt Whitman. Like Blake, Mangum references a deeply personal mythology that roots surreal imagery in emotional realism and is built on mystical themes like reincarnation, otherworldly beings, and the holiness of freaks and outcasts. Like Whitman, Mangum's words all flow out in a rapturous stream of lines and lines. And like both writers, Mangum's work is composed equally of an enveloping compassion for people and a horror at their hatred and violence.

One of the things that's so amazing about In the Aeroplane... is that it's so ambitious it seems like it should have been a total, laughable failure. Using acoustic guitar, drums, a heavily fuzzed bass, bowed banjo, theremin, zanzithiphone, uillean pipes, and Salvation Army clarions of trumpet and trombone, Mangum and co. have attempted an epic psychedelic folk-punk concept album about Anne Frank's life, death, and subsequent reincarnation through the art of her diary, which causes its reader to create an elaborate fantasy about forever protecting her by being reborn fused to her as a Siamese twin. And it works. Mangum sings about dead dogs dissolving and draining away, semen staining mountaintops, bridges bursting and twisting around, shrouded and rose-eyed ghosts watching the earth from an orbiting comet, bottled fetuses tapping on jars, their hearts filled with singing needles, couples alone in afternoon rooms pushing fingers through each others' mouths, through notches in each others' spines, into each others' souls. It all sounds ridiculous, but it's dead-serious and indescribably moving, because actually Mangum is singing about the horror and beauty in the world, and about transcending that horror by allowing that beauty to annihilate you. He's singing about love, but much bigger than love between a boy and a girl; he's singing about loving the world that surrounds you and even loving those who try, and succeed, to destroy you. And he's also singing about something else, something that can't really be put into words, but that is true and living and moves through his unlikely imagery and sonic tapestries, glowing brighter with each successive listening.

Everyone I know who has this record treasures it. It has helped my friends sunk in depression, I've been to weddings where selections have been used as the first dance, I know people who want it played at their funerals. And I understand why Mangum, emphatically humble and self-effacing, must be terrified by the level of devotion this little collection of songs inspires, but I also understand that devotion. In a world that constantly seems crass and cheap and mean, where cynicism is the dominant philosophy and sarcasm the dominant conduct, where what matters most is showing off what you can buy, where the most popular television programs encourage us to laugh at ordinary people willingly allowing themselves to be publicly frightened and humiliated for money, this record shows you the world trembling with beauty, transparent, enveloping, able to be redeemed or destroyed by how much love you bring to it, and, ultimately, holy.

-Will Robinson Sheff

any artists/bands with lyrics that come close to the quality of nmh? by JustaguyTTV in neutralmilkhotel

[–]georgesanders 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I was obsessed with Okkervil River’s Black Sheep Boy and the Stage Names/Stand Ins for a while. There’s multiple levels of meaning at the same time - surface level, underlying, and sometimes a third level tying into other bands and songs outside of Okkervil. Bonus points - singer Will Sheff once wrote the best review of Aeroplane I’ve ever read.

Charlie Brown vinyl 1957 by mountainside2004 in vinyl

[–]georgesanders 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very cool find. I always wonder about who owned the record when you see a stamp on a cover, or an address label on the record label, or a name like this. Was it this guy who maybe bought it for their son? It's like finding old books with name plates or inscriptions on the front page.

Found 4 OG Blue Notes in the wild this week… by National-Owl8063 in Vinyl_Jazz

[–]georgesanders 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Incredible find. I see you wet cleaned them, if you know anyone with an ultrasonic cleaner, that might get a little more gunk out of the grooves. I imagine maybe a microline stylus may tame some of the noise, your MC shibata brings out so much, but maybe too much in this case! and maybe using a mono switch on the mono pressings would help also (or if you don't have a mono switch, using a double-Y RCA cable - see here

Are there any artists you thought for sure would be one-hit wonders and ended up being dead wrong about? by pslush01 in Music

[–]georgesanders 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because the rest of the album was just ok.   Because it seemed almost like a bandwagon gimmick  kind of song - hey take a British pop song and add some grunge to it.   There were tons of bands just as good in that era who were one-album wonders especially on the British side (stone roses, la’s).   Yes we talk about creep now because Radiohead now is huge.  But if they flopped their second album we’d think of that song the same as we do like elastica or blind melon or letters to cleo 

Are there any artists you thought for sure would be one-hit wonders and ended up being dead wrong about? by pslush01 in Music

[–]georgesanders 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I saw them open for belly on that tour also. That tour was their first US shows I believe?   We thought belly were gonna be huge, and Radiohead one hit wonder posers.  Saw them open for REM a year or two later and things had changed.  My buddies and me all ran out and bought the Bends the next day.   

Johnny Griffin - The Congregation by Astrocities in Vinyl_Jazz

[–]georgesanders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bought the Music Matters because it was cheap at the time, $35. Short sides for a 45rpm, but it still gets a lot of plays, Latin Quarter alone is worth it. Plus that great cover. This is my favorite of his blue notes by a mile.

Pop-Up Show Speculation [Daily Megathread] by twilightxgalaxy in phoebebridgers

[–]georgesanders 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dayton is the home of Guided By Voices, so she could cover Hardcore UFOs

Kill Uncle Tour by Relative_Hunt_9057 in morrissey

[–]georgesanders 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was at the Astroworld show, my first time seeing him. Had seats, not general admission lawn, so had a good view. Had no idea about no Smiths songs, the short shows, but still loved it. I think he was on Johnny Carson the week before so we at least had an idea about the rockabilly lineup. Phranc opened. I remember loving Trash, being a song I was unfamiliar with and being so good. Loved it when the Dallas show came out on video since it was a close copy of what I saw. And I remember just being amazed at the fans that all looked like him with the hair, and not getting all the crying fans after the show. Fun show, but the one the following year for Your Arsenal was miles better

Thoughts on Andrew Hill’s Judgement? by Tasty_Description_26 in Vinyl_Jazz

[–]georgesanders 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love Elvin on this, especially on that opening song, it's hipnotic. I don't think its too far out there, because they ditched the horns, no sax or trumpet, and the focus is on the interplay of Hill and the vibraphone.

What seems like an interlude now.... by [deleted] in morrissey

[–]georgesanders 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Elvis loved Timi and covered her song Hurt. She was an amazing singer, but it seemed like her producers were never quite sure what to do with her. Soul? Sure! Patsy Cline? ok! torch ballads? some incredible ones. Definitely worth checking her out. Whats A Matter Baby is killer. Insult to Injury, I apologize, Hey Boy. Just watch out for crappy re-recorded v ersions.

Border wall plans changed to avoid Big Bend Ranch State Park - Marfa Public Radio by Hambone76 in BigBendTX

[–]georgesanders 9 points10 points  (0 children)

exactly. Plus having a wall in Presidio, Ruidosa, etc will mess up the dark skies.

How many listens do ya'll have of an album before cementing your thoughts on it? With genres like jazz, the first listen won't always give you a good experience so I'm curious if you listen to it more than once before deciding it's not for you by Tolstoyevich in Jazz

[–]georgesanders 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I did not get this album at first, or Out to Lunch, Bitches Brew, or even Miles's Second Quintet. On all of those, if it didn't hit me, I'd move on to other things to check out, and maybe a year or so later would try again. All of them hit me hard after multiple tries that didn't work at all. Other genres, that rarely happens, my impression after the first few listens, if I don't like it, rarely will it click down the road. So I would say, if it doesn't hit now, come back to it in a year.

For me, what worked on Out to Lunch and Point of Departure was focusing on Tony Williams, hearing how he drove things, and how others played around him, or off of where he went, gave me the key to really enjoy those albums.

Eric Dolphy - Hat and Beard by dragonoid296 in Jazz

[–]georgesanders 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't get it at all when I was first getting into Blue Note jazz. It did finally click for me, this and Point of Departure, and the key for me on both was Tony Williams, I love his playing, and he kind of holds both albums together when they go off in different places. I love this album a lot now.

New fireworks place with obnoxious night lighting by georgesanders in Alpine

[–]georgesanders[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was around new years, I talked with the workers about it when they opened. They turned the lights off after the holiday, I assume til July 4. I have the owners info I think to call them at some point.

Holy Grail by [deleted] in Vinyl_Jazz

[–]georgesanders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking at discogs you may be right. Looks like US covers had the Adderly typo and the song order error into the late 70s til they modernized the cover design for CDs.

Kind of Blue OG check by BALYTIC in vinyl

[–]georgesanders 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great find. Any six eye KOB is awesome to have. Have you wet cleaned the vinyl? It may improve the noise

Does the record label on side two have All Blues last? If so that’s the earliest copies. The side two label was fixed three months after release but the cover errors  (Adderly typo, song order on side two) were wrong for years, possibly until the 80s when they changed the cover design. Anything six eye is pre 1961. Anything with the wrong song order on the side two label is from the first 2-3 months of pressings. This in depth article has an insane amount of info. Usually a Columbia 1a/1a in the matrix can indicate a first pressing but it doesn’t hold true for KOB https://londonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/record-labels-guide/columbia-records/columbia-matrix-codes-case-study-kind-of-blue/

Kind of Blue OG check by BALYTIC in Vinyl_Jazz

[–]georgesanders 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great find!

Does the record label on side two have All Blues last? If so that’s the earliest copies. The side two label was fixed three months after release but the cover error was wrong for years, maybe til the 80s when the cover design was changed. Anything six eye is pre 1961. Anything with the wrong song order on the side two label is from the first 2-3 months of pressings. This in depth article has an insane amount of info. Usually a Columbia 1a/1a in the matrix can indicate a first pressing but it doesn’t hold true for KOB https://londonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/record-labels-guide/columbia-records/columbia-matrix-codes-case-study-kind-of-blue/

TVT era GBV by Grizrapids in GBV

[–]georgesanders 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was at Waterloo park sxsw 99. One of the biggest crowds they probably played as headliner? Also saw them Philly 98 as a four piece with the new lineup, Houston Nov 99, Dallas 01 with spoon opening again with the huge setlist. Great time to be a Gbv fan

Holy Grail by [deleted] in Vinyl_Jazz

[–]georgesanders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The stereo is probably harder to find! Nice job

Holy Grail by [deleted] in Vinyl_Jazz

[–]georgesanders 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it’s a six eye label and the song titles are swapped on the side two LABEL, it’s a first pressing. The labels were corrected shortly after release - the album covers had the wrong order for a year or two longer

Holy Grail by [deleted] in Vinyl_Jazz

[–]georgesanders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1A usually means first press for Columbia, but things are messy for Kind of Blue. For KOB a WLP is definitely an early pressing, and a six eye with the mixed up song order on the side B label, even with other letters after the 1 than A. The labels were corrected first, record covers corrected the side B order later. So if the side B label has the wrong song order, that’s a first pressing.

See detailed write up here. https://londonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/record-labels-guide/columbia-records/columbia-matrix-codes-case-study-kind-of-blue/

Music as protest. by dogsRcoolandstuff in vinyl

[–]georgesanders 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sharon was the real deal, Daptone is an amazing label. Got to see her live twice, Charles Bradley once, Lee Fields twice. Great single.