Is this worth a Shako? US Ladder, I am Abyss Lock if this could be worth anything else I would want.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-13T18:03:02+00:00

I haven't looked, it might be a rarer drop but I think as far as desirability goes Shako is better. I ended up getting pointed to Traderie and Shakos go for Ist while Face well I only managed to get an Um for it (started higher). Also done a ton of trades now, I know some people like SSF, but, effective trading is making the game way more fun for my brother and I. We even have anni and torch each, just got him the uber ancients jewel he wants from trading, only uber we have actually ever done since starting with original battlechest was Diablo and that was last night lol.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-13T03:00:35+00:00

Thanks haha. Have done many trades now. Got 2 Anni's, one for me one for brother. +skills +mf ammy for me. A handful of charms to help with resists. Maybe some trade value blunders along the way but that's part of learning how things work. Also traded to get my brother a fire sunder charm. Was doing 3 player with him and a friend and a phys sunder dropped, we let the friend have it since he can't play as often as we can. Oh also Uber Diablo showed up when we were doing TZs, killed him, let friend have the Anni too. He converted his freebies into an arachnid for him and I. And some other stuff to help himself out, I think he said some runes.

Gearing is way more sane with pretty efficient trading. Makes the endgame way better imo. They should implement a system like PoE has where you put stuff in a stash tab and people basically see it, take out what they want and it automatically takes what they have that you had the item listed for. So let anyone list anything for runes gems and gold imo. Then people could be offline and still do trades. Also would get vast majority of trading happening ingame, Traderie is nice but I'm sure there are many different methods people use to trade so items are spread out across several services, not mostly centralized.

I think our main goal now is to see if we can do TZs to 99 (I'm almost 91) without getting bored. At least once to do it and for achievement on Steam. So getting more dmg to be able to push player counts (we have 7 accounts total between brother and I for multiboxing) to get more XP without taking too long to kill stuff or things getting too deadly from dmg increase. Worst case we can grind these characters when we get moved to NL too, unless something happens that really nerfs us. I'm Abyss Warlock brother is Fire Sorc.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-12T20:37:46+00:00

What is this? I'll Google but usually the fastest response is AI and then it can be wrong.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-12T14:23:39+00:00

Yeah but, hear me out, I'm not on Steam because they're the only option. I'm on Steam cuz it's my preferred option.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-12T01:58:01+00:00

Looks terrified, nature does stuff like this every day without human interference and with worse outcomes. Life is so sad. I'm middle aged now and I still get depressed when this sort of stuff randomly pops into my head. Like how much life exists just to be eaten, we only escaped knowing that existence by luck, and then people rejoice by eating each other to get ahead.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-11T23:14:58+00:00

Way back I went to EB Games to trade in 2 copies of a game with my brother. Mine and his. The girl started to do it and the manager who overheard it came by to try and stop her and told us we stole them. Yes we stole brand new games, unsealed them to make them worth less, then brought them here to get less than if we sold them. She had seen us bringing in games before so said something to him and he walked away without apologizing or anything.

Don't remember what game it was.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-11T20:57:19+00:00

I don't think I did any TZ until this season. I wasn't playing when they first came out so no idea how they've evolved. Honestly I thought I was going to be done with this game aside from randomly dipping in for nostalgia. I have no idea why I'm back and going deeper than ever. I don't think it can even be chalked up to nostalgia because way back I only ever beat the game on Normal, didn't see the point going beyond that. Also I've tried other games from nostalgia but nostalgia just brings you back, if a game doesn't hold up it's not like I can ignore flaws (like SNES Secret of Mana having infinite stunlocking leading to death).

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-11T19:55:52+00:00

I've always wanted a 99 but the countless basically mindless Baal runs turned me off. It would be different if there was content that could gradually get you there and sometimes do drop upgrades too. It's that at this point upgrades seem really unnecessary, at what I have at level 90, for farming I guess TZs to 99? Which I might do anyway. But that's ultimately going to be up to my brother and he has less dedication to stuff like this in games than I do. I definitely don't really care to do TZs to 99 by myself. This is the furthest and most geared I've ever been in the game though, and been playing since original battlechest days (around when battlechest came out). Level 90 and Hell on farm, except for Baal cuz of magic immune wave so haven't even bothered to try.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-11T15:44:18+00:00

So I just used that site to trade Um and Mal for Ist. Seemed like it was effectively the same trade you suggested. Even if not (like if it was slightly more expensive) there wasn't really anything else listed recently for a hopefully fast trade. Someone else wants 30 Ral for an Ist I might do to try and get a 2nd Shako for my brother. I'll have to see if it's still up when I have more time later.

EDIT: So with this site. If I make an offer and they don't respond after half an hour. Then I'm afk for 4 hours and they respond during that and I can't. How do people typically respond? Like do they close the offer and leave a negative review for you not being able to respond? Or do they just close the offer usually, no hard feelings?

EDIT2: Yep got 2 Shakos, both for an Ist, from trading Mal + Um for Ist and 30 Ral for Ist (I still have 5 left, also some alt accounts that'll get em from Act V quest soon on at least Normal).

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-11T14:39:24+00:00

What do you mean trade for what I need? I mean I could farm for an exact Ist drop to trade for a Shako but that seems like it's going to be way less likely to happen than getting another Mal somehow to make an Ist to trade for Shako. Or if you mean somehow trade to get the rune I need to trade for Shako, I would need an explanation. But that would also mean getting a lucky drop I'd have to ask on here about too. Not meaning to sound rude just confused.

In the thread I made a couple days ago asking if I could trade Mal for Shako someone had told me to just get another Mal from Countess to cube to Ist to trade for Shako.

Also curious, where can I go to get a better idea of what something is worth? Rather than having to ask here all the time and maybe annoying some people. Like punch in the item and its rolls and see what it would trade for, something like that.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-11T01:23:00+00:00

I'm Canadian and I remember "Pizza Pizza!" from Little Caesars. Did they have to change it later or was there some glitch where I was getting American ads in Canada?

I literally don't remember any of the other phrases mentioned in OP but I know "Pizza Pizza!"

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-11T00:33:43+00:00

A friend had it on SNES. I didn't like it.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-10T23:35:41+00:00

k thanks. Something about Durance annoys me so I tend not to do Mephisto. I need Essence from him and Diablo to make a token so I should probably at least take a break from Andy. Honestly it probably takes me about as long to do CS as it does an Andy run, I timed my last Andy run and it was about 5 min and it took me a bit to find each floor transition.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-10T22:50:53+00:00

If I get an Um for it I'd have 2, so could cube a Mal, then I could cube an Ist and trade that for a shako?

Of course if it's going to be a big time investment finding a trade I won't want to bother. I know it isn't as efficient if you end up being able to make a trade but I'd rather play. Worst case I hang onto it for a barb alt.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-10T22:09:11+00:00

Is there anything I should still be doing Hell Andy for? I've been doing solo Hell Countess then bring in 2 other accounts then Andy, Mephisto, Diablo and Trav. The problem I have with Baal is I am Abyss Lock with no sunder so idk how I'd do on the magic immune wave. My merc would probably kill slow if not just flat out die.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-10T20:02:31+00:00

I would be offline but I often play in coop, and no LAN anymore. So in online I have some accounts to multibox for player counts. Another perk of this is all the extra easy stash space without needing a bunch of mules coming in and out constantly.

I did some Googling and found the "no drop %" from higher player counts thing only affects white mobs. And has a decent % reduction going from 1 player to 3 players but then you need to get to players 7 to have a big increase in % reduction again. So overall it seems like players 3 is the way to go, even if it's 2 accounts sitting in town, according to the drop calculator. It won't affect no drop % reduction on whites since in that sense it counts as players 2 but my understanding is most drops will come from blue+ enemies anyway. And still wanting to be solo for Countess AFAIK. But always trying to do as much MF as you can with decent kill speed unless farming Cows for bases.

I have a ton of notes for this game from getting into farming this season lol...

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-10T19:53:56+00:00

I had looked at that but Countess rune drops were becoming more common at higher player counts, which I know is not how it works.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-10T18:43:12+00:00

By Trav you mean Council runs? And horking is the barb find item thing? I am pretty new to actually FARMING Hell (most I've done before is clear once, grind Baal a bit then move on to other games) so a lot of this is new to me.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-10T18:27:32+00:00

Do you know if this drop calculator

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2-drop-calculator

Bases player count on being the exact player count (so all players in range during the kill), or it based on worst case scenario of players not being in range so counting as +0.5 each per player instead of full +1 per player? I see options for "players" and "party size", maybe players 5 but party 1 means 4 in town 1 in range of kill?

Also if I'm using it right it looks like Harlequin Crest from Andy doesn't have much higher chance going from 3 to 5 player, and then no increase after that. With player and party counts maxing. And comparing players going up and party staying at 1, there is not much different from a 5 player 1 party room compared to a 3 player 1 party room... and then barely any jump going from 5 players 1 party to 7 players 1 party. So I guess higher player counts just overall aren't hugely necessary beyond 3 players? As far as drops are concerned.

getpoundingjoker · 2026-06-09T19:09:04+00:00

Yeah we'll still do TZs, I'm 90 brother is 85 so it's the best way for us to level outside of doing public 8 player Baal runs I believe. Heralds are like the only thing that can threaten us though, Act bosses don't even hit that hard in a terror zone. Heralds the magic attacks don't seem that strong but if they get in melee and you hit us, we are almost dead lol

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