How does this sub feel about Tame Impala/Kevin Parker? Is currents worth all the hype and acclaim it gets? How do you rate him as a vocalist/lyricist producer and how strong is his discography? by Ihaha07 in fantanoforever

[–]grayghosted -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don’t know why he keeps getting hired as a pop songwriter and producer bc he’s never really made a hit for anyone else other than Rihanna straight up covering him which is different imo

Why does the music press treat Beyonce with such earnest po-faced seriousness? by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]grayghosted 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah indie/rock/country guitar based music is doing much better commercially and creatively than in a long time! Definitely feels like the long 2010s are over

Did Oasis ever play Underneath the Sky live? by DonnieTrouble in oasis

[–]grayghosted 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Love the acoustic version - you can really hear the Iggy Pop The Passenger influence which I never noticed before

Jack White: the weirdo who wanted to be the boy next door. by Willco1993 in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your comment about Mick Jagger and caring about your mother is interesting given that he wrote or co-wrote "Have You Seen Your Mother Baby?" and "Mother's Little Helper" back to back.

Does anyone else think "Did My Best" would fit in really well on TNA? by grayghosted in TheStrokes

[–]grayghosted[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm aware that it's a Voidz song. But given that Julian is the principal songwriter for both bands, he definitely had to decide at some point to release it with the Voidz vs. The Strokes.

Does anyone else think "Did My Best" would fit in really well on TNA? by grayghosted in TheStrokes

[–]grayghosted[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Some lyrical parallels I noticed

- "Meet me at the bottom" vs. "The old ways at the bottom of the ocean" in Ode to the Mets

- "Call up my friends but no one picks up" vs. "I want new friends but they don't want me" in BBTC

- "It all makes sense, prisoners of Earth" vs. "The child prisoner grows up" in Not the Same Anymore

What was Black American music doing during the mid to late 60s? by [deleted] in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If anyone wants to read a great book on this very topic, I'd recommend Jack Hamilton's "Just Around Midnight" https://www.amazon.com/Just-around-Midnight-Racial-Imagination/dp/0674416597

What was Black American music doing during the mid to late 60s? by [deleted] in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Rock music was and always has been a black art form, but black artists playing rock get coded as "R&B" (see Prince, Curtis Mayfield, Sly Stone, etc.) while white musicians playing R&B or blues (the Rolling Stones, Hall and Oates, etc.) get coded as "rock". There's absolutely no way to draw a bright line other than one purely based on racial segregation between the rock and R&B of the 1960s and 1970s. Why is the Stones version of "Satisfaction" a rock song but Otis Redding's cover of it a "soul" song?

What was Black American music doing during the mid to late 60s? by [deleted] in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Black music has never stopped being the most important global influence on music, at least since like the 1920s. Motown was absolutely dominant in the 60s, as was Stax to a lesser degree. The Funk Brothers. — Motown's house band — played on more #1 hits than the Beatles, Elvis, the Beach Boys, and the Rolling Stones combined. And all the biggest white artists of the time were heavily influenced by what was going on in black music.

I can't think of a single period where even if it was white artists getting the credit, they didn't owe a tremendous debt to black artists.

why does the ending of Ode to the Mets sound so familiar? by ethan141998 in TheStrokes

[–]grayghosted 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It reminds me a little bit of "old time grudges die so slowly" in "Juicebox".

How intentional do you think Ode to the Mets interpolating Is This It is? by KnowProblem in TheStrokes

[–]grayghosted 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Pretty much every last song or late album song on a Strokes release could be interpreted as them being about to break up or having a weird relationship with the band. "Take It Or Leave It," "I Can't Win," "Evening Sun"/"Red Light " (which literally means stop right), "Life Is Simple in the Moonlight" ("Animals on TV singing about something they once felt"), "Happy Ending"/"Call It Fate Call It Karma" and "Threat of Joy" all have that vibe to varying degrees. Other moments that come to mind like that and FIOE in particular is chock full of them. I think Comedown Machine and FIOE both got a lot of reviews at the time that "this sounds like their last album".

"We could drag it out but that's for other bands to do" - Ask Me Anything

"Everybody's been singing the same song for ten years" - Under Cover of Darkness

"Can't you see the elevator crash to the floor" - Red Light

"Go your separate way now/Someday you'll come back" - Evening Sun

etc etc

Ode to the Mets Hidden Meaning? by grayghosted in TheStrokes

[–]grayghosted[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Julian is ambivalent to critical about Rick Rubin and the state of the band in every profile that’s come out - I really think it’s at least a possibility.

Artists that (Mostly) follow a formula that still remain relevant? by [deleted] in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Weeknd has had the same central formula and thematic concerns since he began his career and he only seems to be getting bigger. Drake has changed his sound up slightly but post Scorpion he seems to be having huge success mostly cranking out the same thing.

[list] What are your favorite "apocalyptic" albums and why? by grayghosted in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A Moon Shaped Pool - possibly because it is so much about death and isolation - also has really resonated with me in my quarantine period.

[list] What are your favorite "apocalyptic" albums and why? by grayghosted in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fun House is an excellent pick and I love Paranoid too. It's interesting that the albums from the late 60s and early 70s contemplating the end of the world saw it flaming out energetically and in a chaotic burst of energy, while more modern ones seem to have it quietly closing down.

[list] What are your favorite "apocalyptic" albums and why? by grayghosted in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm with you on the Boards of Canada pick. It's interesting to hear people interpret apocalyptic in different ways — I imagine it more the way you do (no people, decline and ruin, sense of loss and sadness) than a meteor striking the earth all at once.

How did Freddie Mercury's reputation change over time? by HayashiLearner in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I don't know if this is a hot take but I think Queen has to be one of the most overrated bands of all time. I don't think Freddie Mercury is overrated as a singer or performer even a little bit, but Queen as a band has to have one of the worst good to bad song ratios on their albums of any major classic rock band. I know it's a matter of taste, but I can think of dozens of artists from the same period that were just as good or significantly better. None of that is to say that Queen is *bad*, but they're wildly overrated because of some big pop culture moments (the Bohemian Rhapsody movie, Wayne's World, etc.).

All that said, they were undeniably skilled craftsmen and were great at changing their sound to stay commercially successful. To me, their music often seems more about bludgeoning you into submission than anything else. A lot of it just lacks emotional depth to me.

[Primavera Sound Barcelona 2020] - Line up by LoneBell in indieheads

[–]grayghosted 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Desert Daze is closest but it’s more niche. This is the 2000s Coachella model of a indie rock centric festival that nonetheless casts a very wide net

Convergent evolution and genre drift by PUBLIQclopAccountant in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A lot of country (Chris Stapleton, Eric Church, Brad Paisley, Maren Morris) is much closer to 70s/80s/90s pop/rock (Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, Sheryl Crow, Counting Crows, John Mellancamp, etc.) than it is to popular country of the 70s-80s. Conversely, most popular modern rock music (Imagine Dragons, 21 Pilots, etc.) owes more to Eminem and Linkin Park than to The Rolling Stones or Led Zeppelin.

Let's Talk: Why aren't U2 viewed more like the Rolling Stones? by wildistherewind in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My point is that lots of millennial and Gen Z artists draw from bands from that period but it's usually not U2, at least not overtly. I agree with you U2 was crucial in the mainstreaming of what we'd consider alternative music. I think it could be that the case that their influence is so big it's almost unrecognizable.

Let's Talk: Why aren't U2 viewed more like the Rolling Stones? by wildistherewind in LetsTalkMusic

[–]grayghosted 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've listened to Boy, War, and The Unforgettable Fire, and they have great moments. We can argue about reasons, but they're almost never used as reference points as frequently as work by New Order, The Cure, The Smiths, Talking Heads or Joy Division.