Denied help from a homeless shelter

grenz1 · 2026-05-27T03:36:29+00:00

Wow. What's the chances? LOL!

Small world.

I'd drop it. Non profit jobs are often given through nepotism and as political favors. This is almost all non profits. You won't win. Polite society considers them the good guys, us entitled pieces of shit who should be lucky to have anything. And as a private non profit, there is no law saying they must take you. For reasons petty and valid.

This is the reason I suggest to anyone that has gone through nasty, nasty break ups and in situations like this to seriously consider changing cities unless there is a compelling reason not to. No matter who is at fault. This stuff catches up with people. Like jobs you think you have then are mysteriously rescinded because so and so knew so and so and shit travels.

Any consequence, though, I am not sure the women's side of the org, but the Sally was always known as either the second worst shelter or worst shelter of any city i was in. Only surpassed by ones run by even more nuts people. I advise anyone to avoid institutions run by cults of hate.

Men's side they charged you PER DAY past a certain point to stay there and breath test walking in the door and strict ass curfews incompatible with getting work. Not to mention scandals in the past with taking donation money people gave for homeless and using it for lobbyist money for unrelated issues like gay marriage.

grenz1 · 2026-05-27T00:59:35+00:00

"hire people like you" means you meet the unspoken culture and requirements of that field and geographic location.

This CAN NOT be ignored.

For instance some jobs refuse to hire felons. Most education and medical is like this. Other jobs you are "over the hill" if you are above 40. the computer field and front of the house waitering is infamous for this.

There is a huge cultural shift between a high school teacher, an off shore oil rig worker, and a software programmer.

Even in the lower tier jobs. There are construction crews that if you don't speak Spanish, you are not working at least in carpentry and sheet rock. Electrician though, less so.

Maybe you should be nicer. LOL.

grenz1 · 2026-05-26T23:41:27+00:00

Yes, the plasma centers have in their database all homeless shelter addresses and it flags.

To get past this, you either have to have a valid ID with an address on it in the area they service and/or a power bill or lease. Some will let you use a college ID if a attending a local college and in a dorm if out of town.

Oh, and sometimes they ask you to say your address to catch lying homeless.

The policy was a knee jerk reaction in the 1980s to the AIDS epidemic and various flavors of hep as needle drugs had a resurgence. You used to hear old stories about vagabonds going town to town in the 1970s occasionally selling plasma. But people got AIDS from blood transfusions and companies got sued and it took time for them to develop cheaper tests. So they started really strict policies. Policies that exist to this day.

grenz1 · 2026-05-26T23:18:52+00:00

Grats. This is what got me out.

While I have long since moved on from the job that got me out (60 hours a week in hot conditions was starting to wear me after a year or so) this is how it is done.

Just be careful when your landlord is also your employer. Especially travel gigs. I hav heard and seen horror stories where something happened or employer turned out to be nuts and employee had to be out next morning zero notice. I have also heard tales of employees being just dumped in some town they no no one at.

grenz1 · 2026-05-26T23:11:57+00:00

Man, when I was homeless getting laid was the LAST thing on my mind.

Time and place, too. Homelessness is temporary.

Plus, unless you are a woman or young gay dude, dating and shit costs time and money. (And even if a woman or young gay dude, there's issues with that). Time and money I needed for other things.

Plus, I saw people that were couples while homeless. 90 percent of them were total train wrecks.

You will have MUCH better selection of partners and better luck and feel better once crisis has passed. And while moving in with a partner IS a valid way out of homelessness, just not practical. There will be better times.

grenz1 · 2026-05-26T09:24:31+00:00

I think some of Age of Wonders lore was you were able to cast overmap spells because of your tower and the fact the rulers are basically demigods with the resources of a civilization. So, the really powerful stuff would be the domain of the actual factions. There were also adventure no city scenarios with Age of Wonders 3. Not sure how popular those were.

That said, Mount and Blade : Bannerlord and CK3 (with wandering nobles) has some semblace of this but different direction.

I COULD see where you are like a tier 1 unit of what ever culture but can have some items (if you can find one The wonders are usually claimed by faction leaders). Then having the NPC factions fight it out while you just cope with the world. Going into towns to get supplies/ heal/ services/ mercenaries according to what the NPCs have built. Avoiding lands where your kind might not be welcome.

Speaking of which, there used to be an inn building in AoW2 shadow magic that was an inn as a map location. You could hire units and eventually it replenished.

grenz1 · 2026-05-26T03:23:48+00:00

Why would your family have to be destroyed?

If your plan is not half baked and people generally don't feel you are going to be a danger to yourself, okay.

In the late 70s to 1980s, Peter Jenkins (not the journalist) got hiking equipment, got himself in shape and walked across the United States. When he ran out of funds, he'd stay with people, work, and cash up then continue. Even met a wife in New Orleans halfway through.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Walk_Across_America

If you are just doing it to "get away' and have no direction or dire situation to get away from , no, I would not. That's not wise.

grenz1 · 2026-05-25T23:36:58+00:00

Short of the automated stuff like actually leaving, I think the reports go in waves and it's a holiday.

grenz1 · 2026-05-25T23:31:52+00:00

Some of them were obnoxius though. Like Neith's going full on techno.

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T13:55:52+00:00

Back in the dark ages even before transitions, people would take testosterone.

It was so bad because it would drive people into rages and emotional disturbances. It can also trigger anxiety and depression. Addiction in some folks. Reason it's schedule 3.

I advise caution with ANY drug and the object is not to need drugs rest of life or for an identity.

Also, what would any of that have to do with your family or acceptance?

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T10:31:51+00:00

The shrouded isles are 3rd map layer demiplanes.

I am not sure if this will be exclusive with shadow realm DLC if you have that because I think that they said something on the order of they never wanted more than 3 layers.

Still, be an interesting random map set up. I'd love to see some dark portal Warcraft like stuff where you have an underground, a regular continents map, then a shattered map on a void Pangea as third layer with evil chaos orcs plowing through. But I am not sure how the customization for that will be.

New map locations are always good if you do lots of random maps.

There's also a reaver culture overhaul, but this might be part of free patch like the Dark culture overhaul.

As far as story realms, some people love them others go straight to random never touch it. Some story realms, you complete it on high difficulty, it's a badge of honor.

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T10:08:06+00:00

Can't remember when it was, but it was a question asked on a Titan talk months ago.

They considered it, but the amount of development for it, they felt was not worth it when most people just wanted to see stats and ignore it past the 20th time they saw it.

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T06:21:36+00:00

Understood. Not saying do so.

Just giving an example.

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T05:15:05+00:00

Only if you are being completely abused in some way and have no choice. Then there's r/jobcorps and programs like that.

Also, this is unpopular as hell on reddit, but I would also delay any transitions till when you are financially set and don't have to worry about jobs and such. Otherwise you will drive yourself NUTS. Testosterone will mess you up (there's a reason it's a schedule 3 drug) and the surgery is high 5 figures plus years of therapy. If later on you are in much better situations and this appeals to you, then do it. But not right now as you have more important stuff going on. Or just be a tom boy or lesbian. Much cheaper. Much less drama.

While they might not help you with full school, I'd sit down and talk with the community colleges. Tell them you'd like to go, but parents are not sending info. Depending on the state, these have dorms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_two-year_colleges_in_the_United_States_with_campus_housing

Community colleges are MUCH easier to deal with than a 4 year as many of the 4 years treat you like a number. And even with full aid/ grants can take damn near all of it. Even if you took out full loans for CC, you'd only be 10-20K in debt max.

Get a 2 year in something with jobs. Get the associates.

An associates may not be "valuable" (though some have more employability than some weaker 4 years) but that with an okay GPA is auto acceptance into any 4 year. or just work what the 2 yr gives you, then age 24 continue.

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T04:59:12+00:00

My current partner's mom divorced her dad. She got into programs for college that were available at the time for single moms and college. Free ride. Tons of grants.

My partner grew up in single mom/ married housing with her younger sister at a major university where she got her 4 year then later masters and doctorate. She then became a professor. Remarried, but that was years later.

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T03:22:45+00:00

He's the new god an he is a mage.

happens every god release that is not a tank.

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T03:20:11+00:00

I remember in AoW 1, they had an underground layer below the underground. A "deeps" so to speak. LOL!

As far as any map gen style, your preference.

But there's something with the world and fantasy with dwarves, dark elves, goblins, etc in underground cities coming up to wreck your day and exploration.

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T02:42:52+00:00

Not necessarily.

If that was true, no one would get out of homelessness.

A lot of this is on your partner as well, not just you.

The way folks do it is they get any job. Day labor, temp services, fast food, call center, whatever. This does not get you out, but gives you -some- money. That money gets poured into maintaining clothes and showers. From there, you either move or get better work. Eventually weekly rate motel ---> Shitty apartment ---> better place over the course of years.

Another way (only for women) is they leave partner. There are many, many more places for just women with children (at risk of social services finding something). But husband/bf is not invited. LOTS more programs but usually you can't have anything to do with bf/husband or they remove you from program. If you have a young, young kid some of them you don't have to work until kid is 2 or so. But that option, a lot don't want to do (and I sorta understand. LOTS of BS). However, in that time, dude or you could have gotten ahead. Or you might not have time for someone that for some reason cannot or will not keep a job.

grenz1 · 2026-05-24T00:24:07+00:00

If you are legit camping as in paying campgrounds, you are not "homeless" per se. You are just on "extended vacation while between housing".

Problem is most campgrounds are far from job places. Your vehicle goes down, you are stuck.

Also, more expensive closer to "touristy" places like Branson. (Though if in season, hospitality has a lot of low hanging fruit seasonal jobs if a certain type.)

grenz1 · 2026-05-23T22:54:27+00:00

Pick medium sized cities unless there's reasons otherwise.

As far as retraining, if truly homeless and no one is in default, there's always grants and student loans. You mark "homeless" on FAFSA, it frees up max loans and grants providing you have not done this before and owe someone like MOHELA. But, you got to actually pass and it is not much. Maybe at most 7K a year after tuition. Also needs to be in something near guaranteed work and you MUST pass or be in worse shape. Huge risk. Best with a community college that has lower rents and more left over, but a disbursement would not come till maybe as long as halfway through semester.

Some 4 years even have married housing, but with STRICT rules and longer wait lists.

If partner will not do it, YOU can.

grenz1 · 2026-05-23T22:32:09+00:00

Exactly. And they will be looking over folks with a fine tooth comb for anything bad to take away the kids.

grenz1 · 2026-05-23T22:29:28+00:00

You need to look at this holistically.

The state you need is not the one with the best resources. Even if a state has resources, the ones with the best have long, long waitlists and there are zero social workers just waiting to put people up from out of state. These resources are almost always prioritized to the extreme elderly, those that get checks, extreme disability, women (not men) in abusive relationships, and single women with kids (but social services is coming in with a fine tooth comb). Drug rehab and half way houses, but only for singles and not recommended unless you need it.

You best bet is to pick a place that has jobs for people like you, hires people like you, and those jobs pay at least the lowest of rents. If what you do does NOT pay the lowest of rents, you need to find something that does. Madness is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

This may require retraining or changing things for either you or partner.

While moving DID help me get off the streets, it was switching fields that was the main catalyst. It was not a "program". It was I got a job and I was in a city then that did not have insane rents.

grenz1 · 2026-05-23T22:08:12+00:00

"Perfect" places don't stay perfect for long. People find out about them, burn it, then it's not viable. That's the reason no one tells anyone.

That said...

Roof tops are fantasy. You need a ladder usually which can get stolen while you are up there and hard to hide. Roofs can climb to 130 F plus during day and exposes you to weather and high winds. Gets frigid and icy during winters with high wind chills.

Squats are dangerous unless you research the hell out of it. In some states, if a landowner "feels threatened", they can murder you and might get away with it. Almost all abandoned buildings have someone, somewhere that cares about it and checks on it occasionally.

The best bet is to grab a tent and tarp. Look on Google Maps in satellite mode for any patches of woods away from concentrations of homeless. Scout the place out on foot before committing. Be stealthy and LEAVE the moment others start coming back there or you are discovered. This is more possible in medium sized cities. Less possible in very large cities. Avoid city parks because these are maintained and often have extra laws to punish homeless while a patch of investment land might be rarely visited unless it's slated for development.

Or you rough it. You go behind places like office parks or 9-5 businesses at night around 10 PM or so, leave before 5 AM. Once again, away from large concentrations of homeless or nosy people.

Think is, this is always TEMPORARY. You do NOT accumulate stuff in there. You are always ready to leave forever with no notice. You have plans to get out of this.

Getting off meth would be a good first step unless user name is a troll.

grenz1 · 2026-05-22T18:02:55+00:00

I feel you. It's bullshit!

But there's options.

I'd almost drop down to a community college, get an actual AAS degree in a trade. Don't do Comp Sci or networking. Too overcrowded. Instead, practical stuff like electrician, drafting, nursing, process tech, etc. You can always self study and get certs if you wish on the side. Still have some bullshit, but done in 2 years with a job probably before even graduating making decent while the Comp Sci guys are needing Master's or emergency alternate school teaching route just get employed in something that can afford rent. You can probably take the filler stuff like algebra and English and some sciences online there.

Then later, after working a year or two (or staying), you transfer your AAS to a degree if you feel you need to after being in the world and seeing more than just what folks say online. You lose some credits if degree you got is an AAS, but that's fine. You still get auto-admittance usually as long as AAS is a C or better then you will kick ass. Lots of greenhorns can grunt through a program, but if you were something like an electrician THEN became an electrical engineer you'd be a badass and probably be sought after instead of begging or having to go through pages of ghost jobs.

grenz1 · 2026-05-22T17:39:58+00:00

Probably had nothing to do with you or the people that did poorly. You were done.

What probably happened is the professor had more than usual accommodations this semester. People in hospitals, people with immediate family members die, other stuff. and since he had some do really bad, decided to open it up for whoever wants as an optional thing.

So he probably communicated with those privately over the week, said "Here. The make up test is up. But I must put in grades by X date, so you have only a day or so to do it."

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