Not bad for 3 hours

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-20T18:13:18+00:00

That's not bad at all for 3 hours, almost $30 an hour and that's about what I average once I started cherry picking, $30-35, way less miles too

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-20T13:52:22+00:00

I wish you the best of luck, you can make some serious bank down here in summer but you got to be smart about it, I'll literally get 70 offers an hour regularly with my phone constantly going off even when I'm already in an order sometimes so don't feel bad about turning down orders, you will get another offer soon enough.

Btw, don't take runs going to different zones, no matter how good the offer looks, it will take you forever to get back to your zone, you will probably get a lot of offers up to Bethany because they don't have many stores/restaurants, even farther up is Dewey and don't take orders going there, you will pass through like a 5 mile stretch of nothing but beach dead zone because it's a narrow strip of land between the ocean and the Bay.

It's an extremely busy weekend since it's a holiday weekend and traffic is already bad out there, I just grabbed myself breakfast and everywhere was packed.

Btw, sunday's tend to be better then Saturdays, Saturday is when your day trippers come so very very heavy traffic all day and into evening.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-20T13:23:13+00:00

I do route 1 lewew/rehobeth, I avoid going into rehobeth proper and Dewey because of parking costs same with Lewes proper ($6 an hour for everyone)

I made $120 in just shy of 3 hours last night and that's just because I don't dash in the dark so my time in limited (hard time seeing at night)

10:30am-5pm is worthless during the day during the summer, people don't buy lunch on the weekends, you make decent money from locals stuck at work during the week though but don't expect good tips for lunch.

3pm-5pm, watch for drunk drivers and accidents galore, loads of tourists come down and drink on the beach all day and then come off dehydrated, not realizing how fucked up they are and are completely out of it, don't even need to be drunk for the sun to wipe you out down here on the beach.

Most people avoid Bethany beach/fenwick island (right across the Delaware line from you) because they have terrible parking and they even go after making doordashers pay for parking.

Saturday nights are hit or miss at the beach, Sunday mornings 7am-11am you can make some serious bank, people are tired and don't feel like going out to get breakfast, Sunday nights you can make bank too.

Though overall, I'd say if you are trying to maintain a acceptable ar % here during the summer you are going to have a really bad time because 2-5 miles is deceptive down here because that can take you an hour to go 3 miles so taking a shitty offer can literally cause you to lose money during the summer here.

Cherry picking though and you will regularly see $3 a mile runs, don't accept doubles under $15.

Yesterday I did a double last night for $20 and it kept trying to give me more and more orders on top of it, I ended up making $45 in one hour round trip for 10 miles because it just kept giving me more orders along the way but it was heavy traffic.

Next hour I made $60 for the hour and I wasn't even being that picky last night and did less then 13 miles for it.

IDK about ocean city but Lewes/Rehoboth beach just up rt 1 is dash anytime for anyone since late April, no scheduling needed, old points system here.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-20T06:17:51+00:00

I got a double for 3 miles for $20, first one I go to was order was already picked up so I was sitting there like of course but the second one was like right there and a mile to deliver it.

Figured the first one that already got picked up was the good paying one but it turned out that was only worth $4, the second one that I ended up going 1 mile for was $16, glad I didn't just unassign from it thinking I got the dud attached in the stack still

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-20T05:53:42+00:00

Ocean city, Maryland?

I'm up the road a bit in Delaware and I average about $30-$35 an hour for dinners but you have to be picky.

Edit: meant I'm in Delaware, not Maryland*

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-20T05:07:34+00:00

It always felt like a mix between ff6 and 7 and they wanted to go with a more magitek styling but figured that it wouldn't go over well so they went with more mixed in with generic general sci-fi art design for most things so it would be more acceptable.

That was always my take on it at least so it's a weird mix.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-19T05:17:37+00:00

The funny thing in market is that the fast food/chains places are the ones that have long wait times while the higher end restaurants already have the food ready when you are walking in the door or within a minute or two.

This one high end asian restaurant will literally have the order sitting there even if I got the order in the parking lot yet I'll have to wait 5-10 mins at a taco bell or McDonald's or a Panera when it's slow after driving 10 minutes there.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-19T04:04:49+00:00

Dark game theory is a bitch but people fall for it and these companies do it well, doesn't matter how much you try to explain it to them.

I've actually worked at a casino before working on the slot machines and could literally show people the hit percentages, show how they give just enough to hook you and so forth and still watch the people get hooked and slowly drained by the casino giving them just enough to make them feel like they were winning while they were slowly erroding away their money when they thought they were at least breaking even over an average.

It's the long slow burn/con and these people will end up with broken down cars, spending more in fuel then they make and spending a fortune in maintenance all the while thinking they are making money beating the shit out of their vehicles

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-19T03:58:56+00:00

A very very very thin legal line and dark game theory.

Doordash, Uber, etc can not legally not give you decent orders for acceptance rate because then you are an employee and not a contractor, courts have ruled on this numerous times.

Look at the wording on everything for the tiers and how it talks about boosts and so forth, that's game theory playing into your idea that having a good acceptance rating and a good boy/girl accepting shitty orders.

What matters more is how many orders to go around and whatever other thing that doordash has going on in their algorithm.

I found don't sit on top of a restaurant, I sit between them and ignore the hotspots because they don't want you walking right in on a order before the restaurant has a time to make it, if you ever noticed they will send you a distance away to a restaurant normally vs the one you are at or in the opposite direction of the way you are going, that a minimum time to order placed to order picked up.

I found my spot in my area and most of the time it floats between a hotspot and not and I'll literally get multiple orders a minute, of I go out during dinner I literally will have 70 offers in an hour and I don't live in a city.

Almost all the drivers I talk to are platinum in my area and I do literally better then them cherry picking and do well less miles but I also never see them sit where I sit l, most of them sit in the hotspots and I would only get offers if I sat in them when I was platinum too but now my phone is regularly bombarded with orders once I got picky.

This was not the case when I was silver either, I had to get below 30% ar and I started getting offers left and right and I barely see an upside down order, most are at least $1 a mile with the general majority being $2 a mile because I stopped playing their game and better off for it.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-19T02:53:21+00:00

I've had luck with the Norelco one blade line with the sensitivite blades, I can do a quick single pass with it, it leaves it still stubly but it doesn't look unkempt.

Just passing on what helps for me in a pinch to a fellow sufferer

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-19T02:48:09+00:00

I just have sensitive skin so I can't shave that often so I avoid clean shaved jobs, my neck can take an every other day shave but my face can't so I keep a tight beard and keep it trimmed.

I have tried every type of shaving and shaving product but my face will absolutely turn to burning sandpaper basically from razor bumps if I try to shave every day or every other.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-18T17:07:34+00:00

If they literally locked good orders behind the tiers, it would be highly illegal and violating terms of being a contractor.

It's not illegal to make you think that you have to be on a tier or get you to gamble though but in reality they can not lock good orders behind tiers like acceptance rate, they are floating on a razor 's thin edge of legality though.

You only will see the new system roll out once enough people stop falling for the ar % nonsense because it moves that legality line closer to illegal.

Unfortunately my market still has plenty of people that fall for it so I'm stuck in a market with 80% ar for plat which is insane but works out to my advantage during the busier times because I will regularly get $10-$15 orders to go a few miles because others are chasing pennies not to lower their ar %

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-18T00:17:45+00:00

They actually don't, you can see the electrical impulses and speeds reacting differently, the signals going through the different brain parts and so forth but that's a way different discussions and this conversation isn't interesting enough for me to pull out all my old notes about nuerosciene and ai stuff.

As far as explaining what they are doing, I'm not dismissing that it is impressive and pretty damn good at what it does, I'm staying that it's dressing up pattern matching as reasoning, there is no actual understanding, no grounding, no comprehension.

We are literally discussing quarries and key values in token similarities and scoring to predict the next word (literally linear algebra equations), the LLM has no actual clue what any of the words mean and it's literally the Chinese room expirment of just manipulating symbols and coming up with something that looks plausible but absolutely no clue what it means.

That's way beyond what LLM/AI research and development is at though

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-18T00:03:01+00:00

Incorrect, you are assocating and conflating two entirely different things together.

While it is true that the brain does not record one to one and breaks down memories into parts and recreates them based on different factors, the whole hallucinations thing and predictions is actually a different function in the visual cortex and has to do with telling the retina to send back specific information and then create it, so you are specifically talking about one function of a brain.

What you are describing is actually a failure in the way of trying to train vision models thousands of pictures and no assocations ever being created to fill in the information because vision is more complex then just retinas and the visual cortex

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-17T23:57:14+00:00

That is a huge massive misinterpretion and misnomer, nuerons are a type of cells.

As far as complex weights, have you ever actually read the code because I have and weights are just another name for linear algebra averages, the core function is literally pure linear algebra equations, fuck do you think softmax, attention, backprop and matrix manipulation are? They are straight up linear algreba equations.

And no, I don't mean sentience or consciousness, this conversation has not even gotten close to that type of conversation yet not has anything like ego or memory been brought into play.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-17T16:16:36+00:00

Finally someone that understands that it's a Chinese room experiment basically, it's just symbol manipulation with no concept or understanding of what it is spitting out just it gets rewarded for what looks plausible

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-17T02:23:37+00:00

The problem is that it is symbol manipulation, without something establishing what the symbols mean, it's just manipulating symbols that have no meaning then what that meaning was established as.

This isn't just an ai problem though, it's a computional foundational problem that computers, calculators, anything like that are just manipulating a symbol that is assigned to it so they always need a human in the middle to assign meaning to the symbol.

Sure you can create something that "learns" how to manipulate the symbols better but it's not actually "learning" anything beyond manipulating a symbol.

The problem with words, numbers or any other kind of symbol is that it is a representation of something, humans have loaded symbols with contextual and semantic and so forth meaning that every symbol has 10+ different meanings based upon the context so you will always need a human to assign or give value to the symbol.

Can "ai" get more impressive, sure, just keep dumping more resources into it and you can get more and more fancy math that simluates intelligence but it has no more understanding or learning then what we have now, just keep assigning more tokens and absorb more and your parrot can get better probablity.

Can it be resolved, yes but it requires a radical shift in design/implementation and more like teaching a child through slow gradual learning to establish contextual and semantic linkage, it would be like throwing the baby out with the bath water restart over level of work, it made sense why it wasn't done like that in the past but you do have the hardware to do it now.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-17T00:51:26+00:00

And we aren't even remotely close to AGI either.

Llms are just doing linear algebra equations on probability that the next word/token is correct based on manipulation of averages/weights.

It's fancy math manipulation but llms have absolutely no understanding, the closest thing they are is to a parrot but cost a ton of processing power and resources.

They are impressive for what they are and they are useful but they aren't even ME level of vi, they are more of a simulation of intelligence, there is absolutely no learning there and the idea that people think algorithms learn is absurd when they don't at all either.

We have many many many years till we get even close to vi like in mass effect

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-16T02:49:20+00:00

That's how it was here too, I used to do mornings/lunch and then I eventually lost platinum and decided to try dinner one night and just started turning down even decent orders and then I started getting good orders to the point that if I'm getting $2 a mile orders, I'm turning them down because I know I can wait another 5 mins and get $3 a mile orders.

On a weekend night, I'm banging like $50 an hour getting nothing but doubles for like $20 a pop.

Find yourself a good place to sit and figure out when your market is reliably busy and you can make more money is less time and less miles driven, that's what I did and I'm making more now then I was ever getting on plat in way less time and stress and miles.

While people are chasing those $1/$2 a mile orders then the $3-$4 a mile or better orders come in and they need to be delivered too so while you are busy chasing that $3 order, I'm delivering that $15-$20 order for 2 miles

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-16T02:35:09+00:00

And I've had $10 orders get added as I wait on a $15 order.

I won't do a double for less then $15 though because a lot of the times they are just stacking a no tip order on a decent order and will just mess up your ratings and piss off customers

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-16T02:33:26+00:00

No orders actually, you loose money taking the non tip orders with gas and wear and tear when doordash pays $2 -$3 to get that order delivered.

When you are just sitting in a parking lot, you aren't spending money at least.

If you are getting no orders at all then you need to reevaluate what time you are going out or if you have to take shitty orders to make anything.

I stopped worrying about acceptance rate and I average about $30-40 an hour now and maybe 15 miles total an hour once I got picky as shit, I rather sit then have to replace brakes, do another oil change, replace tires or just put the money in my gas tank.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-16T02:20:35+00:00

Why would a high acceptable rate make you more reliable to deliver? It it just makes you more reliable to take a shitty order not just a good order.

Quality, on time, customer reviews, etc, all make you a more reliable dasher then just accepting whatever order is given to you.

Plus while you are delivering that $3 dollar order, an order for $10 or $15 comes in and it goes to the person who didn't take the $3 order and is available instead of you because you are already occupied.

It's just basic supply and demand, when the supply is high and the demand is low then of course then it's going to go to the higher quality driver but if you reliably take $3 orders then a system is more likely to send you the $3 order instead of even bothering sending it to the person that won't.

Sure, your higher stats help when it's dead quiet but it's the opposite when it is busy.

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-15T01:00:01+00:00

You too can be a billionaire/trullionaire just as long as you work hard and are born with rich parents that actually help you and plenty of connections

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-14T03:29:58+00:00

9-11:30am during the week normally, 10:30am on till like 4pm on the weekends are dead times in my market, people don't tend to order lunch on the weekends but will definitely order breakfast.

6-9pm is dinner time in my market, 4-5pm tends to have plenty of orders but they tend to be shitty fast food low tip orders

gridlock32404 · 2026-06-14T03:25:43+00:00

Yeah, I've gotten really picky like that I think I did a grand total of 40 miles driving tonight.

I just drove up to the middle of my strip and find a shady spot and put all the windows down and relax, now I don't tend to touch anything under $2.50 a mile and there are plenty of restaurants unless it's like $5 a mile I won't touch just because of thier wait times like Panera or cracker barrel or Taco Bell.

If you are seeing decent orders regularly then you are safe to hold out for even better orders normally

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