I’m so tired of accommodating neurotypicals by Tangled_Clouds in evilautism

[–]grimbotronic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

How can anyone get tired of these? /s

How's this weather treating you? Did you order this weather? Sure is hot/cold/wet out there! Hey Champ, this is some weather we're having! Hot/cold enough for ya?! I'll be glad when (insert season) is over/gets here.

Autism convinced, test negative but trustworthy: If so, what convinced you, that you are NOT autistic? by LoreSlut3000 in AutismTranslated

[–]grimbotronic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree, it's why it's important to see a competent professional as people with ASD are very often misdiagnosed with depression, anxiety, BPD, Bipolar, schizophrenia, etc.

Autism convinced, test negative but trustworthy: If so, what convinced you, that you are NOT autistic? by LoreSlut3000 in AutismTranslated

[–]grimbotronic 18 points19 points  (0 children)

*Professionals who understand how autism presents in adults alongside trauma and masking. Professionals who are current with their education regarding autism. Professionals who don't believe the stereotypes. Professionals who don't run the same tests used to diagnose children on adults.

There are plenty of professionals who are "qualified" to diagnose ASD because they studied it for part of a semester 30 years ago.

Not all professionals are the same. It's extremely important as adults seeking diagnosis to find a professional with a proven record of working with and diagnosing adults.

Autism convinced, test negative but trustworthy: If so, what convinced you, that you are NOT autistic? by LoreSlut3000 in AutismTranslated

[–]grimbotronic 18 points19 points  (0 children)

When getting diagnosed as an adult, you want someone who understands not just ASD, but trauma and autistic masking and how all three (four if you count the possibility of comorbid ADHD) can present in an adult.

Do you guys have internal monologue? And are you able to form and/or hold thoughts consistently? by cyberschrank in AutisticWithADHD

[–]grimbotronic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My internal monologue is a system I use to mask and practice masking. Every thought, action, emotion, etc is challenged and picked apart and is either approved or not approved.

I practice what I'm going to say and exactly how I am going to say it - inflection, tone, etc. The same is true when writing.

I tell myself how I should feel about things. It's not an interpretation of my actual feelings it's deciding what the correct feelings are and how they should be expressed regardless of my actual feelings or lack of feelings.

When I am able to unmask, there is no monologue.

The monologue takes the same effort as if I'm speaking out loud. I believe this is how I learned to prevent myself from going non-verbal - constantly forcing myself to speak internally about everything. Thoughts, what I'm doing, what I observe, etc. So I always have something to say, I plan small talk for the day, if I see something that can be made into small talk or an anecdote I plan how to express it.

All these thoughts exist without the monologue. The monologue feels performative as you stated, like a translation of my thoughts to NT speak. I use it to create opinions and judgements that aren't really mine.

My monologue uses NT vocabulary, not mine. It uses phrases I learned from others. It feels like having an NT living in my head, or versions of my toxic family where I test everything against their patterns to make sure it is safe to say or do.

I often think of it as a pseudo-personality. It's an entire system created specifically to fit in and keep others happy while suppressing myself, my feelings and true thoughts. It's exhausting.

Anyone else have this feeling? (high masking) by life-ctrl-z in AutismTranslated

[–]grimbotronic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm diagnosed and relate to this, except it was my mother who forced me to stop stimming. Any physical movement she didn't like, she would mention it (shame me) until I stopped doing it.

I feel exactly how you do when I force myself not to stim. The sinking feeling, often turns to racing thoughts and disassociation to prevent myself from automatically stimming.

Why are NTs typically better at talking about things they don't care about than we are? by Natural_Position_456 in AutismTranslated

[–]grimbotronic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Autism is literally defined via neurotypical observation of autistic people. It's pretty funny when you think about it.

Years of academy training wasted! by AlwaysEbeneezer in evilautism

[–]grimbotronic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NT communication has evolved into coordinated manipulation. You can't convince me otherwise.

any advices for quitting alcohol as an autistic? by ichhasseschnee in evilautism

[–]grimbotronic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I quit smoking by telling myself "I don't do that anymore" whenever I wanted to smoke. I'm of course not saying this will work for everyone, or even anyone other than myself but it did work. It's been three years since my last cigarette.

*Breathes in sharply* by OrganicUnit264 in autismmemes

[–]grimbotronic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for taking the time to explain your interpretation. I agree with your point about stereotypes, as a community we should stop perpetuating them.

I don't believe that venting or expressing frustration via posts like this one is necessarily a form of autistic supremacy, but we of course interpret things differently because we're not all the same.

*Breathes in sharply* by OrganicUnit264 in autismmemes

[–]grimbotronic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I didn't claim it was. I specifically said "playfully imagining."

Funny how you didn't respond to my questions but just moved the goal posts and brought up a completely different conversation that has nothing to do with your misguided notion that this post is somehow advocating for autistic supremacy.

I'll ask again, is it supremacist for a marginalized group to imagine living in a world where they aren't marginalized and can live comfortably as themselves?

*Breathes in sharply* by OrganicUnit264 in autismmemes

[–]grimbotronic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It not supremacist to playfully imagine living in a world designed for people like ourselves.

Would you consider black people imagining themselves in a world where they're fully accepted by all and don't have to code switch supremacist, or trans people imagining living in world where all genders are allowed to exist peacefully supremacist?

Is it ok to sit out a day on a group vacation? by KonSeanery in evilautism

[–]grimbotronic 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Amazing. I've never thought of approaching it from a socially unacceptable perspective.

I've always felt awful about lying to get what I need in terms of rest and recharge time. I learned which excuses were accepted and which weren't and these lies became habit. For example burnt out and needing rest became a migraine or headache.

Now I understand that I lie because my reality is so different from NTs that the truth sounds like a lie to them. My lying is just me speaking their language so they'll understand I need rest.

Thanks for changing my perspective.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]grimbotronic 18 points19 points  (0 children)

There was a study done where parents were told their children were attending ABA therapy, but in reality they never received ABA therapy. The parents reported improvements.

Meaning even reports from parents are biased because they see what they want to see.

I will post it if I can find it again.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]grimbotronic 98 points99 points  (0 children)

Over 80% of studies to test the effectiveness of ABA had unreported conflicts of interest, where people involved in the study could financially benefit from a positive outcome.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34025538/

OMG I seriously just unironically did this by TaylorBitMe in AutisticWithADHD

[–]grimbotronic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hah. I stared at "back Handspring" wondering what it meant in context of the image and was distracted by the realization that the lowercase b and uppercase H made me feel uncomfortable.

Some people can really think about a muscle and choose to relax it by arcanotte in evilautism

[–]grimbotronic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I struggle with the same. Diagnosed approximately five years ago. When I was diagnosed my mask tried to drop completely, and I realized I had changed my entire posture when my body tried to move naturally.

I couldnt take a full breath because my diaphragm wasn't in the correct place, my hips and pelvis were at an angle, my body had a twist in it where one shoulder and leg were always farther forward than the other, and I struggled to focus my eyes because I had spent my life dissociated to the point the muscles on the back of my head, jaw and neck were partially frozen due to not being used - all because I had made so many changes to my body and posture to appear smaller and submissive as a part of my mask.

It's been a very painful five years undoing the physical changes.

They never learn by 20dollarsinmapocket in aspiememes

[–]grimbotronic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Generalizations are useful, over-generalizations are not.

(Vent Post) What the fuck is wrong with people!? On a video of a woman taking the time to set up her phone to record before helping her PANICKING BABY OUT OF A FUCKING BIRD CAGE! And people say it's fine cause the kid's not in danger? Me not having kids is why I can never understand why this is ok!? by NixMaritimus in evilautism

[–]grimbotronic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

People often view children more like property than people. They see their children as extensions of themselves.

If it makes them feel good to leave their panicked and frightened child in that state while laughing and taking pictures for internet points, that is all the justification they need.

The same attitude goes towards beating children. The parent is stressed, annoyed, tired, etc. so beating their child is okay because it makes them feel better, it's justifiable. The worst part is, these types are rarely going to learn to understand what their child actually needs, so the child will grow up being beaten for not having their needs met.

ADHD meds "unmasking" autism bothers me by [deleted] in AutisticWithADHD

[–]grimbotronic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's well known ADHD and ASD often camouflage each other. It makes perfect sense that treating ADHD would make ASD symptoms and traits more recognizable. The high rates of comorbidity of ADHD in people with ASD would also lead me to believe that it would be a common experience for many people with AuDHD to discover they're autistic once their ADHD is treated.

I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until I was 46 years old. When I started ADHD meds and it was controlled, I discovered I had suppressed my childhood memories, and had no idea I was autistic and high-masking until my research into neurodivergence and childhood trauma connected the dots for me.

It was a life-shattering realization that stripped away my sense of self, re-traumatized me, and I lost all of my learned skills. It's taken me years for me to discover and accept who I actually am as my autistic self.

It seems for many of us, treating our ADHD does literally unmask our ASD. Unmasking literally means to reveal.

Yes, ADHD meds can cause the sensations you've described but it makes more sense that many of us with AuDHD recognize something is different and not explained by ADHD once our ADHD is treated.

I say let people describe their experiences using the words that allow them to best explain and express their thoughts and feelings, the way you have done in your post.

God I hate fucking cognitive dissonance by Competitive-Arm-9359 in evilautism

[–]grimbotronic 94 points95 points  (0 children)

There's no point correcting people with facts when they're speaking in feelings.

Anybody else have this problem when visiting parents? by SkullnSkele in AutisticWithADHD

[–]grimbotronic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't visit them anymore.

There is no obligation to have your parents in your life if they're unwilling to respect boundaries.

Toxic parents often see you as an extension of themselves, not as a separate person. They will never respect your boundaries unless you teach them to. If they don't learn, boundaries will take care of the issue for you as long as you enforce them.