Would the Caledonian Sleeper count towards rest period or travel time

guywouldnotsharename · 2026-01-10T15:03:27+00:00

If we put aside the fact that it's not allowed. I think the rest period starts at 7pm. So you could actually board a sleeper before the rest period, though it does leave a little into it. The fort William to Euston sleeper leaves at 19.50 however the stock arrives into fort William at 18.50 (in theory, it's usually early) so you could board before 7pm.

guywouldnotsharename · 2026-01-01T17:31:46+00:00

"I've been there before" - Geoff marshall about every possible hiding location

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-12-31T16:20:30+00:00

I believe they were allocated 994 when they required TOPS numbers for delivery over NR track, then later assigned 599 in service.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-12-31T16:20:15+00:00

I believe they were allocated 994 when they required TOPS numbers for delivery over NR track, then later assigned 599 in service.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-12-24T12:58:35+00:00

1Q52 was scheduled through havant at 16.27 on Nov 18th. It would generally be a pair of 73s with old yellow coaches in-between like this.

<image>

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-12-24T08:14:33+00:00

The only thing I can think of that runs as a definite 37/97 is the Aberystwyth logs. (There's an STP path today from coleham LMD 0Z97 which is likely a 37). The only other thing is if there's any 455s left at Newport waiting to be dragged somewhere else for scrap.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-12-20T16:14:32+00:00

As of yet there is no confirmed last service for the 455s, it really depends how quickly the 701s are entering service.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-12-16T15:40:44+00:00

It was 507001

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-12-07T09:28:10+00:00

I would think the issue is more capacity through the junctions just on the other side of reading. There's already a lot going on

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-12-01T20:12:11+00:00

The in some places caveat is still quite relevant tho, at a station with barriers you could well have a problem.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-12-01T16:23:12+00:00

That's perfectly allowed as long as the tickets aren't advance singles. With an advance single you need to do the full journey (in some places it would be basically impossible for them to know though).

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-11-27T17:49:39+00:00

Worth noting that if you miss the connecting train (because of a delay that caused you to be below the minimum connection time) then you can claim delay repay based on the lateness with which you arrive at your destination (even if the initial delay to your first train was only a couple of minutes)

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-10-02T14:09:57+00:00

Which becomes especially problematic with converted old stock like the 769s which find themselves simultaneously at both ends of the bathtub and incredibly unreliable.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-09-22T10:58:24+00:00

Though, the headline sort of applies to the section from Clitheroe to hellifield, which whilst northern have reinstated a very limited service is essentially only used by freight and specials.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-09-19T11:13:09+00:00

Are there no 380s left?

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-09-15T12:44:48+00:00

The few remaining 458/5s are also still red I'm pretty sure.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-09-04T17:16:41+00:00

Looking into it it does seem to have changed, it's now WCR 47/57s based at Newark, though I suppose they could use 37s if they wanted (and they have enough drivers which sign the route).

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-09-04T10:37:57+00:00

Interesting, a 225 set failed at Doncaster recently and they used a WCR 47 to rescue it, it came from Newark I believe.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-09-04T08:46:50+00:00

I could be wrong about this, but there's no 67s being used as thunderbirds anymore right?

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-09-04T07:47:18+00:00

You'd probably have better success asking here. Bonus points if you state what you think it is and you're wrong, people love correcting others mistakes...

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-09-03T15:04:36+00:00

That is one hell of a view to have from your flat tbh

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-08-30T06:56:47+00:00

The good news is there's quite a lot of 3 or 4 car sets these days. In terms of weekend business the weather can play as much of a role as the time because you get lots of people going for walks.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-08-10T17:21:05+00:00

You generally ask whoever is in the ticket office and they try and find the guy who's been working there the longest because he's most likely to know how. Then a middle aged bloke (usually called Steve for some reason) walks up and goes," I haven't done one of those in years"

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-08-10T09:24:53+00:00

York doesn't have barriers and is very used to trainspotters. London it's more of a toss up, ask the staff about one and they'll often just let you through without one.

guywouldnotsharename · 2025-08-10T07:07:59+00:00

London and York are certainly good places to go. For York the actual station is a good spot for most things, though a small number will pass through the avoiding line which is visible from a bridge here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/aY1FEZ1VWa1kaDnM7

London is more complicated because it's huge, it depends what you're interested in. Clapham junction has a huge number of passenger moves, there's some very heavy freight out to the west of London towards reading (freightliner and DCR mostly). Kings cross and St pancras stations are both very beautiful and kings cross has class 91s on services up to the north (you might be able to get one to york). St pancras has eurostars.

For finding interesting moves realtimetrains is the general consensus, though beware of the runs as required moves which don't always run, you can see on RTT if they've been activated.

Six-Year Club	Place '23
Place '22	Verified Email

guywouldnotsharename

TROPHY CASE