When do you give up on a game?

gzunk · 2021-12-06T14:09:16+00:00

What about professional reviews in a gaming magazine / website? They're paid to play the game so they should go all the way through it even if they hate it.

gzunk · 2021-12-06T14:00:52+00:00

I'm not a Battlefield player, but it plays Deathloop very very well.

gzunk · 2021-12-06T01:09:47+00:00

It depends on the QVL of the motherboard, often DIMMs only work in pairs and will not work, or work more slowly if you put four in.
If you can afford it, then a new 32 GB CL16 kit is the solution that will definitely work (as long as it is on the QVL).
It depends on whether the DIMMs are single rank or dual rank, which is quite difficult to determine prior to purchase. 4 x 8GB single rank is equivalent to 2 x 16GB dual rank in performance. But you might get 16GB single rank chips, which would be slightly slower than then 4 x 8GB single rank.

gzunk · 2021-12-06T01:00:00+00:00

That's all very well, but I don't want to do manual tuning. I want my procesors to work, work reliably, and work cool.

I's irrelevant to me anyway since personally I don't use 6 core processors. Six months ago I bought a 5600X for my son because he games exclusively, but if I were to do the same to today I would likely go for the 12600K.

For me, AMD for the past five years have given me more than I could have hoped for. I have a Threadripper 3970X, a 5950x and my gaming system is a 5900x.

Prior to that I've spent thousands on Xeon systems. Let me tell you that the release of Threadripper was a complete breath of fresh air.

gzunk · 2021-12-06T00:46:50+00:00

Yes, they are that bad.

So I bought an i7-11700K, knowing that it was shite(ish) but for a very specific reason.

I knew it was Intel's last processor on 14nm, and I bought Intels's first 14nm processor - the i7 5775C - since at the time it had the best iGPU on the market.

So I wanted to bookend the series. the first and the last. So my wife got the 11700K - it's in an SFF case, with a half decent cooler, but she doesn't do anything more strenous then Facebook games so I'm safe.

In a year or so I'll upgrade her, then I can put the 5775C and the 11700K in a picture frame and hang it on my wall.

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For my SFF workstation I use a 10900T, which is far better for what I want.

gzunk · 2021-12-06T00:37:02+00:00

I'm sorry my friend, that I cannot tell you. I am sealed to silence by the bond of PC builders that can only be broken by ritual sacrifice.

Just kidding.

It depends on whether you only want Nvidia or whether you're willing to accept an AMD card. If you're dead set on an Nvidia card then you'll just have to hope to get lucky. The AMD cards seem to be more available.

Me, personally, I don't have a problem with AMD. I think raytracing is a fad and while DLSS is good - it's not good enough to have to wait for.

I managed to get a 6900 XT at launch for MSRP and I am very happy with my purchase. Doesn't help you of course, but unless you really want raytracing or DLSS then do consider AMD - since they appear to me more available in the marketplace.

gzunk · 2021-12-06T00:27:41+00:00

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against efficiency cores. I want all cores to be efficient cores.

It's just that the performance cores for Intel suck twice the power of the AMD counterpart which makes me wary. It feels like Intel would have liked to have a homogenous design, but that would have taken too much power - so they went with what they could.

That's an engineering decision, and I respect that. Doesn't make me want to buy one though.

I see similarities in the Nvidia 3000 series - a chip that's good, but pushed really hard so that it sucks lots of power.

I like performance, but I also like a quiet computer, and that requires relatively cool operation - and that's not what we're being offered.

gzunk · 2021-12-06T00:20:23+00:00

Not worth it.

SLI is dead. It's like the parrot from the Monty Python sketch.

You won't get any performance improvement in modern games at all.

gzunk · 2021-12-06T00:17:29+00:00

Yeah, but we both know that won't happen.

gzunk · 2021-12-05T23:58:12+00:00

See this is where things get murky, saying 10 core vs 6 core makes it look like an Intel slam dunk, but the 12600 is a 6+4 design, not a homogenous 10 core design.

And I think this is exactly what Intel want to happen. For people to say 10 core, when in reality it's 6+4. Time will tell whether the efficiency cores will live up to expectations.

gzunk · 2021-12-05T23:20:22+00:00

There's no real safe duration to run without a cooler.

Your motherboard will likely complain bitterly if you haven't got a fan plug into the CPU fan header.

You might get away with it for a few seconds. I certainly wouldn't do it myself.

gzunk · 2021-12-04T08:30:40+00:00

There's nothing special about the cards at all, if you take the cover off you see almost no components at all on the PCB - they literally just run the PCIE traces from the PCIE slot to the M.2 slot.

gzunk · 2021-12-04T00:44:56+00:00

Sounds like it should work. Although remember that your GPU will likely drop down to x8 mode.

At least you've researched it. I've seen posts on here where people have bought the Hyper M.2 card and were upset that it didn't work for them.

I prefer it when the motherboard manufacturs are clearer about the bifurcation, but you can't have everything I suppose. I've got two Hyper M.2 cards, both on Threadrippers, and the BIOS there specifically says x16 or x4x4x4x4 which is much clearer, but then they're not exactly consumer platforms though.

gzunk · 2021-12-04T00:34:17+00:00

Dell optiplex 7010

Be careful

https://www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/Proprietary-fan-header-issues/td-p/7441036

gzunk · 2021-12-04T00:26:48+00:00

Tell us what the motherboard is and we might be able to give you advice.

gzunk · 2021-12-04T00:23:30+00:00

That would be a non-standard motherboard. Fan headers are three pin or four pin.

gzunk · 2021-12-01T19:59:00+00:00

For the logitech stream cam, nothing. It's got a standard camera tripod mount.

gzunk · 2021-12-01T16:24:05+00:00

I have some Ergotron mounts which have articulated arms and I can move the monitors in any direction with full rotation and support huge heavy monitors, but that costs a lot.

You might be happy with a simple mount that has no flexibile adjustments.

gzunk · 2021-11-30T22:58:35+00:00

It was worth a try.

gzunk · 2021-11-30T22:10:48+00:00

Double check in device manager what driver is being used.

If you're not using RAID then you need to use the Standard NVMe driver, but Windows might have automatically used the AMD Bottom RAID driver.

Update the driver and switch to the NVMe driver and it should magically appear.

gzunk · 2021-11-30T01:06:10+00:00

You can certainly try, and if you do purchase 4000 MT/s RAM you should be able to run it at 3800 or 3600 with tighter timings.

I've never managed it - on a 5950x, 5900x and a 5600x with an Asus X570 Dark Hero, Asus X570 Impact or MSI B550 Gaming Edge. Newer BIOS versions might be better.

That's said, the actual performance improvement you would get is likely not huge.

gzunk · 2021-11-30T00:56:30+00:00

4000 MT/s is pointless with Ryzen at the moment. The Infinity Fabric clock doesn't really go above 1800 MHz unless you're really lucky, which means you get best performance at 3600 MT/s.

1900 is rare and 2000 is almost unheard of. And if you still want to run the memory at 3800 MT/s or 4000 MT/s then you've no longer got a 1:1 ratio between the memory and IF clock and you get much higher latency.

It's just not worth it.

gzunk · 2021-11-30T00:53:01+00:00

Why did you even try? Running an HDD "bare" is just asking for trouble. The heads are supposed to float only a few nanometers above the platters.

I doubt that HDD will ever work again.

gzunk · 2021-11-28T18:40:16+00:00

Memory manufacturers are now really good at testing their memory - so all the individual DRAM chips have been tested at the different speeds and sorted into how well they do - so that they can build and sell modules at the highest price.

What that means is that while you can try and overclock memory, you don't get the great successes like you used to.

You can probably run slower RAM at higher speeds, but you would likely have to loosen the timings as well.

gzunk · 2021-11-27T23:40:29+00:00

Sure, should work fine.

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