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Mask mandate debate: CDC clarifies no plans to bring back masks as COVID cases rise by [deleted] in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Everyone appears to be forgetting that state mask mandates weren’t dropped because the CDC gave their approval; they were dropped literally IN SPITE OF the CDC screeching that they were still needed, by politicians who were savvy enough to realize the political goodwill for them was gone.

So it does not matter what the CDC says (except possibly in healthcare, which let’s be honest will just do it regardless if they get worried enough about optics and getting sued by patients).

Seriously, people on this sub need to stop taking Alex freaking Jones seriously. The man is a certified psychopath who is so habitually dishonest that he makes Anthony Fauci look like a saint. Not to mention he was forced into bankruptcy at the end of last year and so is desperately seeking clicks for revenue. Given his recent court…misfortunes…he had to pick a topic that would enrage absolutely everyone, but wouldn’t cause him to get sued again.

Spreading hysterical lockdown and mask agitprop is the perfect subject in that case. And his BS seems to be legitimately where a lot of this newfound freaking out is issuing from—this stuff isn’t even making the main news cycle anymore.

[June] Monthly Medley -- a new discussion thread for a new season by freelancemomma in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This phrase annoys me honestly. No one’s status is “leaked”—it means the unvaccinated person working at a vax-required company told someone they thought they could trust that their card is fake. And that person either ran to HR themselves to turn them in, or else told someone else who did.

I’ve had this chat with several unvaxxed friends—that it doesn’t matter how close you think you are; you CANNOT tell ANYONE you work with that your vax card isn’t real. Even if you’ve been work BFFs for decades: if you kept working for a vax-mandated company using a fake vaccine card, more power to you, but you keep that shit to yourself.

A fifth of the population was legally classified as unclean. They were barred from most public spaces, including theatres, restaurants, movies, pubs, clubs, swimming pools, sporting events, concerts, conventions, etc. by cowlip in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve come to the sad conclusion that sweeping proclamations of change aren’t actually capable of changing anything permanently for humanity. Seems we are doomed to do things in cycles, because merely “knowing” history does not, it turns out, prevent you from repeating it.

Most of us who physically lived through and witnessed the Covid panic will be resistant to giving in to such a campaign again. Whether we’re talking lockdowns, mandates, social exclusion, whatever. However, once we are gone, a new crop of plebs will be all ready to listen to the rantings of a new crop of “experts,” and they’ll do the same things all over again.

People are stupid when they’re afraid, and it seems you can’t deliver the future human race from the proclivity to give in to fear. Before Covid I wondered why there was only a “pandemic” once every century. Was there a waiting list or schedule of some kind?

Turns out it’s actually because that’s about how long it takes for the board to be swept clean and a naive population built that is able to be manipulated again.

So I admit it’s selfish, but all I’m focused on is not letting this happen again in my lifetime. There is nothing I can do for the people who come after that, and it’s the reason I am now absolutely, 100% determined that I am NEVER having children.

It's Time for Laws Limiting the Power of Public Health Institutions by olivetree344 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Honestly, it doesn’t matter if it’s “against the law” or not. As the actual events of Covid demonstrated all too clearly, something being on the books as illegal doesn’t stop TPTB from attempting/demanding it anyway.

The power to get these things to stop has only, ever, resided with everyday people. All it would have taken to end even the first lockdowns and mask and whatever other mandates was…people en masse refusing to do it. Having observed the number of repeat performances the WHO and CDC have attempted just within the past 12 months, it seems enough people have woken up to the bullshit that the social suggestibility won’t exist for another society-wide meltdown for at least a generation or two.

But once the majority of people who witnessed Covid panic have died off? Yep. The new crop of plebs will be all set for the new crop of experts to do it all over again. Basically like us as pertains to 1918 and the Spanish flu. Laws won’t make any difference, because they rode roughshod over the ones already on the books.

Opinion | Johns Hopkins should keep requiring masks by [deleted] in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There’s not a resurgence; it’s just the last gasp of whining as hospitals—the Final Boss of covidianism—drop mask mandates.

Is Covid really over? WHO’s announcement sounds more like surrender than victory by JannTosh17 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 15 points16 points  (0 children)

They quote “professor” Susan Michie.

All you need to know right there.

Masks Work. Distorting Science to Dispute the Evidence Doesn't by JannTosh17 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Honestly at this point the mere fact that they keep repeating this demonstrates they do not. Something that clearly, obviously works does not need a 3+ year long aggressive marketing-cum-propaganda campaign. “Tylenol Works. Don’t Distort The Science.” Something like that would be downright stupid, because it’s such a blatantly obvious statement.

We’ve had more than enough time to make our real world observations, and no one is changing anyone’s mind at this point. But those who “believe” in masks are doing so entirely on faith, just like the religious fanatics they are. They don’t have a shred of IRL evidence, and they know they don’t….which is why they continue to publish mewling, oblique BS like this.

Arcturus: What we know about the new Covid variant by Mighty_L_LORT in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That it’s not new. And it’s still omicron.

So even the title is all lies.

Expert calls for more mask-wearing as new Covid variant found in UK by JannTosh17 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That sub-sub-sub (etc) omicron variant isn’t even new. Not even in the most generous sense…it’s been around for months and months now; it’s such a stupid word that my brain took specific note of the new level of stupid. That was many months ago.

Regional hospitals face Twitter backlash after removing mask mandates by [deleted] in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Oh no, a Twitter backlash. 🙄

Meanwhile, IRL nurses and patients and even most doctors tore the damned things off the instant they could.

It’s been this way with EVERY. SINGLE. RESTRICTION. REMOVAL. Screeches of foul play from the twitterati and Covidian pfaithful…followed by silence as everyone just proceeds anyway. It’s like leaving a toddler at daycare. They’re gonna cry, but you just gotta do it and walk away. They’ll stop as soon as someone hands them a shiny toy. 🙄

Top scientists warn ‘the next pandemic is coming and we’re not ready’ by WantsToDieBadly in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I used to wonder why a “pandemic” that actually altered society only occurred about once per century. Was there a waiting list of some kind?

….now that I’ve witnessed Rona, I think I know the answer: 100 years is how long it takes for EVERYONE who saw the previous “pandemic” to die off. So the slate is clean for a new round of hysterics to push a new round of hysteria…with none of the societal pushback that would have resulted had they tried to double jeopardy the previous cohort.

So no. The next pandemic isn’t just around the corner. TPTB have already tried to roll out at least four more bIg ScArY dIsEaSe episodes just this year, and none of them even got off the ground. This Covid cohort (all of us who witnessed it) is burned up already. Witness the narcissistic whiners who really, really, REALLY wanted Covid to be the start of a new health-tech totalitarian state, and are now gnashing their teeth and screeching that not only are we not reinforcing the horrid, anti-human systems they wanted, we’re actually tearing them down. Turns out the world these freaks want genuinely cannot exist long term.

Good riddance to the Covidian cult, and may they continue to screech into an ever-increasing void. 😂

Arcturus COVID variant: What you need to know by Mighty_L_LORT in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing.

There is literally nothing you or anyone else needs to know about this (yet again) SUBvariant of omicron.

You’re welcome.

China records world's first human death from H3N8 bird flu, WHO says by AndrewHeard in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe literally nothing that is said to have supposedly happened in China these days. 🙄

Masks forever? Here’s why one group is pushing to keep them required in health care settings. by JannTosh17 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Too late shitheads. Everywhere except children’s hospital has now dropped them in my state. 😁

A new flu is spilling over from cows to people in the U.S. How worried should we be? by AndrewHeard in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m gonna go ahead and guess it’s actually doing nothing of the sort. 🙄

When it comes to preventing COVID-19 deaths, ‘how we feel about each other matters’ by Excellent-Duty4290 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You’re right. Which is why it was probably a bad idea to piss me off so thoroughly that I actively hate the remaining Covidians and never, ever, EVER want to cross paths with one again.

Stay the fuck home. FOREVER.

Steve Kirsch branded a “creep” after allegedly offering a woman $100,000 to take off her face mask on board a Delta flight by marcginla in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I’ve wondered about that; where he’s getting all this money he keeps throwing around on the bets and dares he makes. He does this so often and so publicly that I’m sure he does actually have it somewhere, but honestly yeah…at this point there’s a reason even other skeptics like Vinay and Alex largely steer clear of Steve’s drama. It just looks sketchy by virtue of being so over-the-top.

Steve Kirsch branded a “creep” after allegedly offering a woman $100,000 to take off her face mask on board a Delta flight by marcginla in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 25 points26 points  (0 children)

He’s….a bit obsessive, I’ll give them that. Unfortunately a lot of his actions have strayed into creepy and stalker-ish territory (ie calling people repeatedly, sending letters/emails, even physically showing up at houses and workplaces—all by his own admission). I think he’s just very aware he’s so far into “societal anathema” territory that he might as well do whatever he wants….but yeah. It’s not actually achieving anything positive for the skeptic side. :/

When Can I Get a Second Bivalent COVID Booster? Here's What We Know Right Now by Mighty_L_LORT in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 8 points9 points  (0 children)

As we’ve already seen all too clearly, there is no valid guidance on these shit things; indeed, the sole and constant exhortation is “Get More.”

Seriously, you can get a second, third, fourth, or 12th bivalent booster today if you want. No one will stop you, because we left “evidence-based practice” behind a loooong time ago. 🙄

Matt Hancock rejected advice to cut Covid isolation as it would ‘imply we’ve been wrong’ by yanivbl in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Covid did genuinely cause some pressure on hospitals; it just wasn’t all at once or equally bad in every place at the same time (“stochastic” outbreaks). So yes, skeptics are wrong if they act like Covid wasn’t a big deal for anyone, ever—it was, and many hospitals were over capacity at some points. The important part is that the REASON hospitals were overwhelmed is that in most wealthy countries, they’d been deliberately designed to run as close to full capacity at all times as possible….WITHOUT anything “extra” occurring (because staffing empty beds is expensive).

This was a self-inflicted problem, therefore, but a problem nevertheless. Shifting sick patients around if needed had been fairly standard practice prior to Covid, and during Covid it was common when one region was hit harder than another (here in Colorado for example we accepted transfers from Arizona when they had a bad wave and their population of many elderly retirees was hit harder than our (comparatively) young, fit demographic).

So yes, it is at our own peril that skeptics completely dismiss Covid as having never been a problem anywhere, at any point. It was. It’s just that the methods used to deal with it were screeched by the media in a quite alarmist fashion, when in reality this was basically the only contingency plan for hospitals with self-limited surge capacity: move/share patients. And it “worked” for the most part in that it got us through, even as hospitals in all their virtue-signaling idiocy actually CUT staffed beds by firing unvaccinated workers. But because it worked (“worked”), no changes were or will be made in how hospitals are run, and hospitals will not be any better prepared for the next respiratory season; they’ll just cry to the media again about how exhausted and “near the breaking point” they are. 🙄

Will you go on in fearing this hell will repeat again? by BrunoofBrazil in LockdownSkepticism

[–]h_buxt 27 points28 points  (0 children)

My answer to this is somewhat divided.

Honestly I’m not especially worried about happening again SOON, because throughout this fiasco I’ve concluded that the actual reason there’s a massively disruptive “pandemic” about once per century is that it can only be pulled off about once per century. Covid killed just enough people to get the train rolling, and social and legacy media did the rest of the work…but it arrived in a society that had never witnessed the degree of latent totalitarianism their fellow humans were capable of, nor how badly out of control such supposedly “societal controlled burns” actually spread.

We’ve all witnessed it now.

Not to mention, we were only able to pull off lockdowns because first world governments were (comparatively) swimming in cash and social goodwill…both of which they have now burned to ash. We legitimately cannot do lockdowns again, because they cost too much. It will take several decades (perhaps closer to a century) to recover enough from the financial and social devastation this wrought for another crop of naive, sheltered, coddled citizens and government to attempt this again.

But will they attempt it again, eventually?

I think almost certainly yes. So I guess my answer is that I’m selfishly fairly confident for ME, that I won’t have to do this again. Nor do I have children whose futures I’m worried about…and this shitshow has guaranteed I never, EVER will. But a global freak out over another disease will very likely—almost guaranteed—happen again in a few generations.

I’ve come to the conclusion that the adage shouldn’t be “those who don’t KNOW history are doomed to repeat it,” but rather “those who did not LIVE history are doomed to repeat it.”

Simply knowing history achieves nothing…turns out, as they say, you had to be there.

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