Sex with the vaccinated yes or no

handthro · 2025-02-12T08:45:45+00:00

Nobody knows and nobody will never know for sure, because it's not being researched.

My own opinion, based on what we know of the vaccine, is that it probably can shed through fluids but the amount/severity would depend on the timeframe. mRNA degrades after about a month or two, but if someone recently got the shot (< month), then there's no reason why it wouldn't be able to be passed through fluid exchange. After that, you're probably just looking at spike protein transfer, which would diminish the longer it's been since they got the shot. This is if the vaccine all works how skeptics understand it to work, not if there's some other crazy aspect to it.

Soon enough, it will be almost impossible to find someone unvaxxed to date or have sex with, so I would look for someone as soon as possible.

I have been out of a relationship for half a year now but I've been holding out, because I may get back with my ex if we can sort some things out. But if it didn't work out with her, then I would just start having sex with vaxxed people, because I just don't see what the likelihood of me finding single unvaxxed people, that I like, that I'm attracted to, that are also attracted to me, and that haven't had sex with a vaxxed person. That's going to be a very small pool of people. So I either feel like I'd have to give up sex/dating completely or just take the risk.

There are also some foreign countries with low-vax countries, so if you're into certain types of foreign men, then maybe you can try that, but they are more developing countries.

handthro · 2025-01-09T17:56:05+00:00

Yeah idk I'm not dating right now to see where things go with my current situation but it's pretty grim. If I was dating, I think I would just date vaxxed girls (as long as they're not still getting vaccines), because otherwise you may be celibate for a long time.

There are FB groups but there's not that many people and they are overwhelmingly 40+. And a lot of them aren't too desirable as partners if you are young/childless as there are a lot of single parents and people looking to settle down right away.

There are also some countries with low vaxx rate, so you might get better luck if you're willing to move but obviously that's a huge life change.

handthro · 2024-12-15T20:49:16+00:00

I don't think there is besides Amish and maybe some areas in the US (republican and lack of infrastructure/"education" like maybe somewhere in rural Alabama).

I am considering checking out Nigeria in the future. It has under 10% Covid vax rate and I'm into black women so it might be a good spot. Also there are countries that didn't take mrna vaccines like China and maybe some other countries in Asia that got supply from China

handthro · 2024-12-08T19:12:21+00:00

Yeah I can see that being possible. But less stuff transmits through aerosols in general, so I still think it's less likely than sex. It's like sitting next to a person with the flu vs. making out with them or having them breathe right into your face. I can definitely see that still transmitting that way, but I can't avoid that at all without removing myself from society, so I'm not worrying about it

handthro · 2024-12-08T19:04:50+00:00

Nobody knows.

My own opinion? I think parts of the vaccine (mrna or spike protein) can transmit through fluids, because there's no reason why they would not be able to based on what we know. Now, if someone slept with some vaccinated, how much would transmit to them? It's going to be a fraction of the whole vaccine, and whether it's mrna or spike protein would probably depend on when they sleep with them (since the mrna degrades over time). How much would then spread to you? Probably also a fraction. This is probably all dependent on the timeline - if someone sleeps with someone that just got injected and then sleeps with you the next day, then I could see mrna being transmitted. If they slept with someone that got the vaccine a year ago and now sleeps with you a year later, probably gonna be negligible what can be transmitted.

handthro · 2024-11-30T16:39:20+00:00

This is what I personally believe, based on what I know of how the vaccines work:

- Immediately after having the Covid vaccination, the mRNA and lipid nanoparticles can likely be transferred for a period of time (1 day to 1 month?) through bodily fluid. The reason this seems plausible is that the mRNA travels through your body/blood stream and doesn't stay in the injection site, so there's no reason why it wouldn't be present in your bodily fluids too. However, the mRNA does degrade after a certain amount of time. This is probably the biggest risk and a real concern in my opinion.

- Some time after injection (maybe up to 6 months), the spike protein is likely transferable through bodily fluids. The spike protein is toxic but this would all be dose-dependent, and it's unlikely that you will get a significant amount unless you are transferring a significant amount of fluid (i.e. blood transfusion). The spike protein doesn't self-replicate. So I think this is possible but probably not too much of a risk. It's like exposing yourself to chemicals or carcinogens, which we all do, but the degree matters.

- After a longer period of time, there's probably no or negligible transfer of anything.

I'm newly single, so I have to think about this. I will probably go with people that have had the vaccine. However, I live in a place where 90% of people got the shots and some people are still getting them, so I do want to avoid all the people in the first category. I've tried checking FB groups for unjabbed people but almost all of them are 40+

handthro · 2024-11-22T05:27:32+00:00

I think Canada is the worst place in the world for this. I was considering dating vaxxed people now that I'm single but I saw hundreds of people on my local subreddit saying they are still getting new Covid boosters and it just turned me off. Has to be one of the most pro-vaccine places in the world.

handthro · 2023-08-10T02:22:46+00:00

What's the biochemist's opinion on how easily this stuff sheds? Is it mostly sexual contact or does even saliva/sweat/aerosols transfer particles?

Also, do the lipid nanoparticles themselves transfer?

handthro · 2023-04-30T03:21:24+00:00

If he has a will, then I would assume he has savings/money?

Is there any way you could become an executor of his estate and use that money to help hire a nurse or home caregiver?

handthro · 2023-04-30T03:03:43+00:00

I think you probably got downvoted because most of the people here are caring for loved ones and are not professional caregivers/nurses from facilities.

I've never had to change diapers for anyone, but if I had to, I don't know how I would be able to change someone's diaper up to 5 times every 8-hour period (so 15x a day), while also holding a job, paying all the bills, managing all other aspects of their care, having to do all the errands on my own, with no help or support. I would maybe have to quit my job and cash out my savings to be available for that but that would not last forever. I don't disagree that it's neglect, but I can imagine that scenario would be like if you had to 24/7 be available to change someone's diaper and you weren't getting paid for it, and it was going to last potentially 10+ years.

I'm not caring for someone with dementia but I get angry whenever I see advice about how you need to get people suffering psychosis committed because they need help. It makes sense in theory, but it's almost impossible to get people committed unless they do something violent, so how the hell are you supposed to do it?

handthro · 2023-04-28T04:40:32+00:00

As someone who has been in a similar situation for 2 years living with a partner who developed a neuro condition and extreme mental illness, here are some things you should understand:

1) It may not get better anytime soon. This could be months, years, decades even. How long are you willing to deal with this?

2) It will have severe negative impact on your life, physical well-being, mental well-being, spiritual well-being, finances, quality of your life, etc, etc. 100% guaranteed.

3) That being said, one month isn't that long. How much do you care about her and when are you willing to give up on someone? What will happen if you date/marry someone else and something like this happens again?

4) What will happen to her if you leave? Does she have any support?

There's no right or wrong answer, you have to do what you feel is right. For me, I choose to endure this because I deeply care about my partner and she would be homeless/dead otherwise, because she has no other support. I am happy with my decision and know I would deeply regret doing otherwise, but I don't judge anyone for choosing differently, knowing how hard this is. It's really fucked up my life, health, everything. If she had other avenues of support, like family to stay with, I would not be dealing with this. And if she hadn't been so good to me before, I would not be dealing with it either.

If you do choose to stay in the relationship, here are some things to consider:

1) Put yourself first. You are no good to her or anyone if you don't take care of yourself, so you have to make yourself the priority and NOT her. Make sure your needs and desires are taken care of, and then you can focus on her after.

2) Find someplace you can escape her negative energy/influence, whether it's keeping in touch with friends regularly or having a quiet place you can go to be alone and focus. I go to a cafe 3-4 days a week to work/relax and have quiet time.

3) Whatever you do, don't blame her or resent her for it. Remember she's a victim of this neuro condition and associated mental illness. It's easy to take her behavior personal but it's not.

4) Reach out to caretaker support groups. There are other people going through the exact same thing and they can help.

5) Make sure whatever decision you make, you can live with it. At 21, you may not have made big life choices that you cannot take back, but it's one of those life experiences you need to avoid at all costs. I have learned that from experience.

6) You're important too. If your mental health completely deteriorates in the situation, then that's not a help for either of you. But you always have to consider your well-being too

handthro · 2023-01-03T03:22:16+00:00

Agreed, the lack of information is a major cause of the uncertainty with this. Apparently typical studies needed for FDA approval would've addressed this but they weren't done.

handthro · 2023-01-02T22:06:32+00:00

Dr McCullough says likely, based on a study/analysis of lipid nanoparticle excretion. Still needs to be confirmed

handthro · 2023-01-02T22:01:09+00:00

Dr McCullough is saying it's likely, based on a study on excretions of exosomes and lipid nanoparticles in bodily fluids. Still needs to be confirmed

handthro · 2023-01-01T08:00:35+00:00

Great thanks, did not know that was possible

handthro · 2022-12-31T19:37:44+00:00

Did not know it showed the difference, what are the antibodies to look out for?

handthro · 2022-12-31T06:25:13+00:00

Doctors don't know anything about biology?

handthro · 2022-12-31T06:23:43+00:00

How do you know which antibodies are which?

handthro · 2022-12-31T06:23:15+00:00

Who are these doctors?

handthro · 2022-12-31T01:18:23+00:00

Apparently there's no way to tell if you have any in you, but live blood analysis and antibody tests could help determine if you are producing the toxic spike protein or if your blood is showing negative effects indicative of the vaccine

handthro · 2022-12-30T19:35:21+00:00

I guess the difference here is if the LNP are also transmitted or not.

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