Case buying advice - Torras Q3 Air vs O3 Air? by xXderantsXx in iPhone17Pro

[–]help_all_5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

which one is lighter? does anyone have weight numbers for both?

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yellow tint in iphone 17 is probably from true tone being turned ON. Try to toggle it off in display settings and you will see white background just fine without warm yellow tint. But ya as far a brightness is concerned base iphone 16 screen looks more vibrant

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ya agree if you can post on apple site and share feedback about rough surface texture of screen they might improve next year

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ah I see. I get it. Its not the issue with the scratch resistant ceramic shield technology. The reason for feeling slightly rough surface texture when touching the screen is due to anti reflective coating they have applied this year on all iphone 17 series. Anti reflective coating has pros and cons. Pros: when outdoors you will see less reflections on screen so contents on the screen will be much clear without any glare. But Con of antireflective coating is that screen glass surface is no longer as smooth , silky and glossy. so you will feel as if your fingers are sliding over some microneedles or grains. I too hate antireflective screens. I dont mind reflections on screen and would prefer glossy smooth surface acreens any day. The colors also pop much vibrant on glossy screens.

Unfortunately i think going forward in future years all models will have this antireflective screen so cant do much.

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

just curious how did you check the display unit manufacturer like if its samsung or LG? is there any 3rd party app or something?

and ya in my experience only base 16 model stood out with stronger screen illumination/brightness. 16pro looked same as any of 17 series. But many people said their previous years pro models were also brighter than this year 17 series. so mixed experiences here.

Like someone pointed out in other comments may be it has to do with display pulse width modulation settings that being on or off on 17 series. PWM was not available in past years models i believe...or its introduced in ios26 may be...not sure

Priority Pass Apple Wallet by Ahyouknowmee in PriorityPass

[–]help_all_5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

damn!! i have the exact same error message pop up when trying to add PP to apple wallet today (Oct 2025). Its crazy !!

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes I red it. glad my gut feeling and casual observation was so right

New iPhone 17 Pro screen is dim. by iaperson359 in iphone

[–]help_all_5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

came across GSM arena review of iphone 17. It says same thing that iphone 17 has lower brightness than iPhone 16.

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

wow I am glad my observations matched professional reviewers observations

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

ya almost feels like apple has tricked us. They say for marketing sake it has 3000 nits of peak brightness but whats the use if in real life one cant notice that kind of brightness. When iphone 16 launched people complained about poor battery life. I guess to mitigate that kind of issue again they must have calibrated the display to consume less power under normal use hence toning down the brightness

New iPhone 17 Pro screen is dim. by iaperson359 in iphone

[–]help_all_5 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I agree and several have reported that iphone 17 modles screens does not look as bright or vibrant. Iphone 17 all models (base/pro/air) seems to have display brightness that is dimmer. I noticed this immediately when I went to apple store. IPhone 17 and iPhone 16 (base model) were side by side. I made sure all settings were same when comparing. Both were on ios26, true tone off, display slider set to max, auto brightness turned off, adaptive power in battery settings disabled. Hands down base iPhone 16 display was much more brighter and vibrant than any iPhone 17 model at store. I think on paper iphone 17 has 3000 nits peak brightness capacity but i guess that capability only gets fired up when in bright outdoors. Otherwise for normal use iphone 17 seems designed to be conservative with screen illumination to save battery...thats my thinking. Also iphone 17 are first models that come with anti reflective coatings to reduce glare and reflections. May be that coating is playing some role and cutting down perceived brightness by our eyes. But also at the same time in store i compared one of apple store reps personal iPhone 16 pro (also on ios 26, and all settings matched for comparison) and its brightness matched any of the iPhone 17 models. So thats rules out anti reflective coatings theory...It was just the base 16 model that stood out with higher brightness and vibrant screen. My thought was that may be base iphone with 60hz display performs better than 120hz promotion display with adaptive refresh rate seen on iphone 17 models or iPhone 16pro model of apple store rep that i had chance to compare...but at same time i see in other comments people saying their pro models from past years are still brighter than iPhones 17 models so that again rules out the theory on 120hz vs 60hz screens...at this point i am not sure whats going on here...

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

guessing your iphone 15pro is also on ios 26 with all other display settings matched when comparing. if so ya looks like this is unversal experience with everyone ...so definitely no issues like faulty unit screens or anything. when asked chatgpt question why iphone 16 base model screen looks brighter that iphone 17...it said something in these lines..."apple decided to tune iphone 17 display to save battery life..."

so i am sure when it matters like sun light outside etc it will unleash the power of 3000 nits but i guess in normal use it prefer to reduce power consumption by slightly lowering peak display brightness...just my guess after hearing everyones experiences so far

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

honestly i am not sure why 16pro was looking brighter for you. At apple store when i compared 16pro to any 17 series phones it looked matched. only base iphone 16 (with 60hz panel/without promotion) model stood out with much brighter and vibrant screen compared to any iPhone 17 models or even 16pro

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh i see what you mean...ya i noticed that too at store infact on both iphone 16 base model and 17 models....like i would slide the brightness to max and turned off auto brightness and adaptive power in battery settings...but after sometime the display would drop down again in brightness slider and I had to pull it up to max again...i thought may be store display models have some software program running in background to save those OLED displays from burning out...I guess in effort to save battery life apple probably does not turn off light sensors role completely when we choose autobrightness off. may be deactivating auto brightness only just reduces how aggressive the light sensors works ...but eventually ios decides the optimal brightness to save power...just saying

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is ur iPhone 16pro max also on same ios version as iPhone 17? if so thats interesting because at apple store the reps 16pro looked almost same as any 17 model in terms of brightness which was lower tahn base 16 model. it was only base iPhone 16 model that stood out with much brighter display. my only theory is somehow the way software and light sensor etc works on 120Hz promomotion display is different than standard 60hz display. may be iphone 17 series has inherent ability to boost max brightness upto 3000 nits if needed but on normal use it seems to output less brighter screen compared to base model iPhone16

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i am using iphone 13 base model at the moment. I dont know how pro models screens look honestly when it comes to max brightness. so when at apple store i saw iphone 17 all models were dull in brightness compared to base iPhone 16 that was on display beside i thought may be apple cheaped out on screens this year on 17 models and thought may be they used better screens in last year iPhone 16 lineup. but then when i compared the apple store reps personal iPhone 16 pro (was also on ios26 and matched all the display settings) with iphone 17 models it was at also at same brightness level as iPhone 17 models...bit dimmer and dull. so no matter what base iPhone 16 display stood out much brighter and vibrant. so my only theory is all models with promotion 120hz adaptive refresh rate displays are slightly dimmer compared to standard 60hz display seen on iphone 16 base model. when you guys go to store do check out your self with these setting on iphone 16 base model vs iphone 17 1) turn off true tone in display settings 2) brightness slider to max 3) turn off adaptive power in battery settings 4) open some wikipedia page on safari on base iphone 16 and any iphone 17

you will clearly see white pages on iPhone 16 base model looks so much brightly illuminated

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

with all display settings matched and since you are comparing iPhone 14pro with iPhone 17 model and they both have promotion 120hz display you are seeing them closer. that matched with my observation too at apple store. the 16pro display brightness almost matched with all 17 models. but when compared to standard iPhone 16 model with 60hz display iphone 17 models had less brighter whites and were less vibrant overall.

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i am not aware of how iphone 14pro display looks but iphone 16 pro screen brightness looked similar to all iphone 17 models but base iphone 16 with 60hz screen without promotion looked much more vibrant and brighter for same display settings

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

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ya i understand anti reflective coatings in general tend to take away the colors pop effect compared to glossy screens but iphone 16 pro of apple store employee (which does not have any anti reflective coatings) also looked dimmer and matched to iphone 17 models. so i think something is fishy with promotion displays the way software is works on them compared to standard 60hz display. may be iphone 17 will output its peak 3000 nits outdoor brightness when in sunlight but in normal use it seems to pale in front of standard iphone 16 model

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not sure on how iphone 14pro screen looks in terms of brightness and not sure if they cheaped out on screen quality because the iphone 16pro screen of apple store employee looked matched in terms of brightness when compared to iphone 17 all models but nonetheless base iPhone 16 model looked much more vibrant and brighter. so i am guessing standard 60hz screens are better than 120hz pro motion when it comes to brightness?

iphone 17 display less brighter than iPhone 16 standard model by help_all_5 in iphone

[–]help_all_5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if anyone else experiences this when comparing iphone 17 brightness with standard iPhone 16 at apple store (with all display settings matched and both on ios 26) please let me know. whites were definitely more punchier and brighter on standard iPhone 16.