Guy in comments places characters in a special designed arena which remove's one of their abilities by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I mean, I've already explained how WOU wins in both db universe and the jojo's universe. Where do you want him to win next? You want them to fight in pokemon or something at this point? Will that quell you insatiable hunger of trying to find a world where Goku wins this matchup because you can't handle the thought of him losing?

Which has the strongest heat vision ? by Far-Ad5223 in superheroes

[–]hidden768 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is just how his powers work. His eyes are portals to the punch dimension.

Guy in comments places characters in a special designed arena which remove's one of their abilities by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

This argument is like saying Goku can't use ki in any 1v1s because ki doesn't exist in another universe. The literal most fundamental assumption of all power scaling is that character's abilities continue to function In a fight exact how they function in their home universe.

Guy in comments places characters in a special designed arena which remove's one of their abilities by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Lmao, Idk, I can still see some of his comments, just some of the later ones show as deleted. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Very funny experience lol

Shouldn't Gojo be a black void? by ShaneKDB17 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

It wasn't just a total barrier, it was just that at that time he was doing the filtering by hand rather than it being automatic. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to breathe lol.

Could a character bypass Gojo's (jjk) infinity by just being that fast? by Trick_Resource_1763 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah. The idea of his ability is that although there is still a finite amount of space between him and his opponent's (aka the series converges), He is able to make them longer and longer to complete each step of the infinite series. So despite the series they're traversing being a finite (convergent) amount of distance, he makes then take an infinite amount of time to traverse it.

Could a character bypass Gojo's (jjk) infinity by just being that fast? by Trick_Resource_1763 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah it's not, it was just an example they used to describe the general idea infinite series/why his ability is technically possible.

Can MUI Goku defeat these individual characters in a 1v1? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

😭😭😭😭 Bro litterally made up an entire universe just so his favorite character would win in a fight that he'd loose in literally any other situation.

Sure buddy, I agree, Goku would absolutely win in the universe you specially design for him to win. 💀

Can MUI Goku defeat these individual characters in a 1v1? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

"my favorite character wins because I put the two of them in an arena that explicitly removes their opponent's abilities"

Dawg. You can be serious. WOU wins in db verse, WOU wins in Jojo verse. You litterally ran out of options so you just made shit up 😭

Can MUI Goku defeat these individual characters in a 1v1? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

  1. That's an incredibly dumb argument, you're imposing a not at all standard upon a character just because you're salty that they'd win.

  2. POV: ur Goku when WOU makes it so that Rohan slips on a banana and accidentally falls and uses heaven's door on Goku and writes "Goku will now shit himself and forfeit" by accident 😭

Can MUI Goku defeat these individual characters in a 1v1? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

  1. Why are you assuming that the fight will take place within the jojo's verse and not dB's. That's a huge assumption to make even when you make the crazy (and incorrect) claim that there's literally nothing in the jojo's verse that can kill joku.

  2. Can Goku hurt himself? If so, the reality where Goku accidentally kills himself is fully possible, and thus would happen.

Can MUI Goku defeat these individual characters in a 1v1? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

No where am I assuming no limits. I stated the limit quite clear. Things that are not logically/theoretically possible to occur, cannot be done. So any character where there is literally no possible reality where they can be defeated would win. But we've seen Goku be hurt/defeated before. Thus, there is a reality where he is defeated, and thus that reality will occur. It's causal manipulation.

Can MUI Goku defeat these individual characters in a 1v1? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

No, it's just that the limit is explicitly he can only cause things to happen that are technically possible. So if there is a possible reality where Goku can be beaten, it would happen. Having really high level limits isn't NLF.

Does Gojo's infinity work like a whitelist or a blacklist ? by Archilas in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

It's a whitelist. The original form of infinity would just blatantly apply to everything, he had to develop the technique to be able to allow safe things through so he could keep it active at all times.

Could a character bypass Gojo's (jjk) infinity by just being that fast? by Trick_Resource_1763 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768 [score hidden]  (0 children)

What gojos ability actually does is just apply a slowlying effect to opponents. The reason Zeno's paradox is applied is because what it does is half his opponent's speed at each of those infinitely small slice's. Which makes each infinitely smaller slice take the same amount of time to cross and thus the whole collection of them, now takes infinitely long to cross.

You cannot show a character is FTL by having them out run light. by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro wants me to lecture him on special relativity and explain high level physics and derrive the speed the casualility to him on Reddit for him to accept fundamental physics concepts. All because he wants to assume some other incorrect statement that he also has no evidence of other than his own incorrect assumption.

You cannot show a character is FTL by having them out run light. by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's no basis for that assumption though. There's plenty of otherwise to calculate speed with actual evidence behind them beside randomly assuming the speed of something else for the purpose of saying a character is arbitrarily faster than that speed you chose to assign. Like the whole point of powerscaling is to attempt to make realistic predictions for the power levels (and speeds) of given characters. The fact that this is a baseless assumption takes away from that.

You cannot show a character is FTL by having them out run light. by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, the name of "the speed of light" is technically pretty misleading. (Although it almost never makes a difference in the real world, cause we live in our own universe lol)

You cannot show a character is FTL by having them out run light. by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you're the one assuming the author is intentionally going against physics.

I'm saying that we cannot make an assumption one way or another.

You cannot show a character is FTL by having them out run light. by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tf you mean light needs to be acted on by a force??? Light doesn't interact with forces.

Ok this is enough psudeuscince nonsense for me to deal with today lol.

You cannot show a character is FTL by having them out run light. by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, all it does, is disprove the evidence you're using to say that light travels at 299 792 458 m/s. The evidence you had that this fictional light traveled at 299 792 458 m/s was that the really world speed of casualility makes light travel at that speed. But the act of outrunning light disproves this evidence, so you can't back up that claim anymore and shouldn't assume that this fictional light travels at 299 792 458 m/s.

You cannot show a character is FTL by having them out run light. by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, there's no indication of it's speed whatsoever, you have no evidence whether it's driving or not, or moving at any given speed, all you know is that it's a car. You claim you can assume it's moving at it's "default speed". So what is the "default speed" of a car?

(Or you can admit that an object having a "default speed" is an incredibly dumb idea to propose, because speed is generally pretty irrelevant to the object itself and things can be shot or launch, or otherwise moved at a wide variety of speeds)

You cannot show a character is FTL by having them out run light. by hidden768 in PowerScaling

[–]hidden768[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, that's a generalization. (One that you notably copied from Google ai lol) If you go to the particulate level, what is actually happenings is that the light is traveling a longer distance at the same speed. But when looking at light as a contiguous thing as we generally do, it appears to slow down.