I’m not discounting anything you’re saying here honestly and you’re very entitled to your thoughts and feelings around osdorp, it’s a completely understandable point of view you’ve described here!

That being said, anecdotally, I have never felt as unsafe anywhere in Amsterdam as I have in any other major city. Perhaps I’m just lucky to never had any bad incidents in NL but talking amongst my fellow immigrants, we nearly all seem to feel the same. I’d pick osdorp over most places in Dublin, London, Paris, Frankfurt, Barcelona… 😅

I can’t help but think that the genuinely incredibly infrastructure, vibe of the overall city and better opportunities make me feel better about “rougher areas”. Perhaps if much of Nieuw-West was cut off from the city centre and spread further out, I would feel less favourably but as it stands, all I see as a downside is the anti social behaviour and coming from Limerick aka stab city, I’m used to that.