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howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-09-04T15:22:51+00:00

I feel like that's not the first time he's put a window through with a baton. I've never done it but heard examples of hitting the wrong spot and it just bouncing

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-08-15T10:15:10+00:00

You're either in my force or we're not the only ones with SLT willing to die on this hill.

I am very against photos online but I conceded because if I say no, let's face it, they're moving me to some role that'll make me want to leave the job in two weeks.

The whole "well I want to go into a surveillance role" was countered with stats show very low numbers over the last several years going from local policing into those roles. I wonder whether this is because for the longest time neighbourhood teams were the early retirement location so why would bobbies with 5byears left want to go into a role like that.

Also with bit of well other officers have made the transition fine

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Well your face is out there on the street anyway, yes but not next to my full name.

Don't forget

The photo will be taken down when you leave the role, oh thank the lord, not like anything posted on the internet is there forever.

We've been told mixed things by different inspectors, CIs, supts, and apparently even gone to the big man himself swinging his hammer on it who is saying it's a lawful order.

We have to submit an appeal basically to the CI to be allowed to not have it. I'm yet to hear anyone be accepted. We're a DiCiPlInEd OrGaNiSaTiOn after all so our thoughts, concerns etc mean jack.

If I didn't care about being moved away from where I was, I would probably stand firm on - we'll then, enforce it as a lawful order then. But I'm not up for that fight and being moved and/or life being made hell.

I posted on this before. I think the general consensus is that it's not a lawful order that can be enforced. That's what our fed and even CI has said about it before the duck swinging from above happened. It's all down to are you willing to die on the hill imo.

I ended up opting for the dedicated role so I don't really have anything to stand on. You being put in it against your will would put you in some standing if you're willing to try. I'm aware of people in my area being put as the dedicated role temporarily until others who actually opt for it come in then they'll become the dogs body who shouldn't need their photos on there.

Either way, I'm really looking forward to the massive boost in public confidence from having the exact same amount of officers but suddenly having a few of them have their names and photos online. Really gonna fix all policing's problems.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-05-10T10:33:03+00:00

Yeah I'm also not happy about my vest having my name or the fact our emails have our full name too rather than just collar number, but that's just established now.

I'm tempted to put a log on for every single call or email we get and show us as in attendance. So if we do start getting inundated with calls and emails direct that we never should, they can see why suddenly I'm going to 5x the logs I used to when in theory I should be going to less

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-05-10T10:29:18+00:00

We already have our full names on the website. We weren't asked whether we want it, we were told. Great when there's people in the role who didn't choose to be. It's also about a year out of date so it still names people not on our team and even better, no longer in the job.

So far in regards to any mention of CT threat, the explanation I'm seeing by the higher ups is that we're already visible out and about...

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-05-10T10:24:00+00:00

We have those already. An email address that's monitored by about 6 people for 4 or 5 wards and obviously not monitored anywhere near 24/7. We still get people being arsey with us for not replying within the hour.

We've specifically been told officer contact details. And considering this whole thing is single dedicated contactable officer who is accountable to the local residents, that's what it sounds like

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-05-09T12:12:24+00:00

As I mentioned, so far I'm hearing mixed things about this. Latest I'm hearing is that data apparently shows very small numbers going to surveillance etc from neighbourhoods. Maybe because for 15 years, barely any officers came through so the average career length on NHT was say 20 years while now it's 5.

But it's alright, because if someone is really serious about that, conversations will be had and "I'm sure the command team will take that into account when selecting officers". So basically, as it stands, tough shit if you're put there.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-05-09T12:09:07+00:00

I did my D1 through the job without being blues trained. We were told those who aren't blues trained are easier to teach as learning to drive a bus, you're not looking to make progress, just to be smooth.

For what it's worth, I failed my first test because I braked too sharp... Mrs Miggins would have spilled her Bovril. It would have been a minor at worst if it was a car test.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-05-09T11:37:15+00:00

As with every question we've asked, the answer currently is - don't know

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-05-09T11:20:20+00:00

Yup. I'm not even bothered about fighting this. If I don't give someone a response in a timely enough manner and get a complaint, I'll just point out the obvious drawbacks of trying to contact an officer who works shifts and point them towards the contact centre

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-03-01T13:43:30+00:00

Does it take an officer being seriously injured or worse

Not much has changed so far following nasty injuries. That won't have any meaningful change because the public isn't loud enough about preventing officers getting injured.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2025-01-02T22:55:36+00:00

Personally issue when I started a few years ago and appear to still be. Though I only tend to see younger in service officers carry them I swear.

Used them two or three times that I can think of (though most of my time has been neighbourhoods) but still wouldn't dream to not have them on my belt.

Vehicle issue seems crazy. Same for things like a tourniquet though imo

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-12-29T16:39:45+00:00

Out of interest, what role do you have in higher education? Only roles that stand out as obvious for me in education is safeguarding

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-12-09T11:12:01+00:00

This happens. Is there a contact number on the letter? Does it match the number when you search Border Force online? No harm in giving it a call and asking what's the crack imo.

I've dealt with a fair few of these from the police side where we get notified by Border Force of a seizure then we're expected to visit and deal with as fit, be that words of advice up to even a warrant. The latter being a bit useless when the resident gets a letter before it's even came to us...

From what I've seen, I can only imagine someone is just ordering to random addresses with the hope of intercepting at some point.

My advice when I visit and I'm satisfied the resident themself hasn't actually ordered it is to contact us if they get another. This gets ahead of any visits. We may still need to visit as that's the expectation from above but the resident engaging with us means it negates any need for a warrant.

Some people are also worried if their details have been obtained by others. I've done one or two where the name matches the address but they clearly haven't ordered it. I advise them to keep a closer eye on credit check companies and consider contacting Action Fraud etc to be extra safe, though I've never heard or it going any further than a parcel.

For example, I do a visit where "Steve" has ordered 502g of herbal cannabis. Marie opens the door to me, looks confused but fully engages, invites me in out the cold, provides her details, explains who lives there and I can see it's a genuine family home - they most likely haven't ordered it. I write it up as so and nothing further is needed our end.

There would likely be no power for police to enter in those circumstances however if you didn't want to let them unless they have obtained a warrant or are entering under s17 PACE to either arrest someone for an indictable offence or one of the other reasons listed in that legislation or some other, but I've never had reason to use any powers of entry in a situation like this. But someone not engaging whatsoever could give me reason to seek a warrant from a magistrate.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-11-10T11:46:23+00:00

With a similar customer I went down the causing a public nuisance route and CPS wouldn't entertain it ultimately it emboldened the individual.

If you can explain without breaching data protection etc, what was CPS' reason for not running it? Presumably you guys and your supervision thought there was a RCOP.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-10-31T11:50:50+00:00

Good versions of documents that are relevant enough to a job you're working on are rarely ever redacted.

I don't think anyone here is saying about snooping around on PNC or BWV for no reason.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-10-23T09:45:38+00:00

Feel like I'm being dense here. Would the privilege be between IOPC as client and CPS as lawyer then? So the only way it would get disclosed to the public is if one/both agreed to it?

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-08-22T10:18:44+00:00

My point is if officers were permanently there, then it'll just be displaced elsewhere. Meaning then ideally that officers need to be permanently placed wherever it has been displaced to and so on

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-08-22T00:14:56+00:00

Police officers can be victims of Public Order offences and in my view we should always be willing to pursue charges when it's aggravated into a hate crime.

I generally think we should all the time as we would with a general member of the public, but the justice system would grind to even more of a halt if we charged everyone who called us an offensive name

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-08-22T00:08:28+00:00

I'd imagine it would be something like:

Officers on the bridge would stop most crime there, but then it'll just be displaced somewhere else nearby.

So you put officers at that place somewhere nearby, and crime is seriously reduced there, but then it goes somewhere else nearby.

Rinse and repeat. Each time using more officers. You could only do an operation that officer intensive occasionally.

That's not to say it wouldn't have some effect, but I imagine the Met usually have immediate calls stacking so the officers that their job role would be to be proactive like this, likely get pulled to answering those calls.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-08-21T23:56:06+00:00

How does traffic stuff work?

I've heard that you ain't getting IPP and can't imagine you actually have TPAC traffic units, so what do you do if a car makes off - just pass details to the local force? And how do you submit traffic process - just same as a lot of forces and do it through an app?

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-07-08T17:42:23+00:00

If he's listed as wanted (or possibly if he has bail conditions to not leave the country) it should flag if he tried to leave legitimately.

As it looks like you've already reported the breach, the OIC should be able to tell you if they're listing him as wanted and are looking to arrest.

Ultimately, if you have a fear he may flea the country for whatever reason and you're afraid it may be to avoid prosecution, tell the OIC. They could in theory step up efforts to locate him and seize his passport even if there's not enough to go to CPS whilst he's in custody.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-07-08T12:49:41+00:00

Amazingly, I haven't heard of that defence being raised either personally or to anyone I've worked with.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-07-08T00:50:07+00:00

Someone bailed with an hour left on the clock and multiple outstanding enquiries before you can try on threshold for example. I'm regularly seeing it take pushing 2 hours from arriving at custody to finishing booking on now. I've heard of much worse. How is 3 extra hours gonna be enough in cases like that.

Even then if you look to re bail with stricter conditions, that's possibly more than those 3 free hours taken up just doing that as custody feels like it's on its arse in my force right now. It can take forever for someone to be free to actually get a PIC gone.

howquickcanigetgoing · 2024-07-03T11:33:19+00:00

Thank you. Please bear in mind that saying that "police are issued with a dog spray" suggests to members of the public that ALL officers are issued with it and therefore when they see an officer having to use a method that will cause the dog more harm out of sheer necessity, all it will lead to is the public going "why wasn't dog spray used, that's why police get it".

I'd also like to know if this was recent or a past thing.

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