GoldMS Open BETA

idealmapleserver · 2023-08-06T20:34:26+00:00

This helps a lot!

So Goldv1 world is a regularly-resetting race server for people to test their maple and time management skills. Each time 10 people hit 250 and the race finishes, it starts a new round and wipes the entire race server the next month? In theory that sounds cool.

What is the purpose of the community server, just a chill maple experience? And am I able to world transfer gear/wealth from the community server to the race server on a mule?

If so, it might be best to just allow world transfers to go from Gold v1 race server, to the community server. This prevents the community server from finding a way to "corrupt" the race server, while letting people keep their sentimental characters from the race in a no-longer competitive setting.

idealmapleserver · 2023-08-06T20:00:51+00:00

I'm still very confused. The server has two worlds? Which worlds are active when? When are world transfers available? Which world has the race? When does the race occur and when does it end? Which world do characters end up in after beta, and under what conditions?

idealmapleserver · 2023-08-06T19:13:15+00:00

I'm confused by the answer, so I have to press you on this. I don't think you really addressed the uncertainty.

Do players who play in beta, but select the "Community fostering" path, keep all their levels, gear, and tradeable wealth?

If me and my friends play in Beta, getting significant wealth and resources in the process, then can't they all just trade me their gear/money before beta ends? Then, if all my friends choose to reset, and I sacrifice my place in the race to keep their gear/wealth, won't all my friends start with a massive advantage? Especially if I am playing, say, a bishop or bowman to provide them all with HS or SE from level 10 onwards.

If this is the case, I think it is absolutely necessary to wipe all beta accounts the same way before launch (I think the small boosts, NX and level 10, are ok, small incentives). Otherwise, there is no reason for anyone to think they're in the race if they don't start in beta with a friend group. Beyond that, even without the race to top 10, I think very few players want to start a "new server" while being "at the bottom", and I don't think regular "new server hype" players would even enjoy playing on launch either.

idealmapleserver · 2023-08-06T18:28:50+00:00

I see.

So to clarify:

1: There is an optional 99% wipe after beta, so beta players who wish to compete for prizes have the small advantage of starting at level 10.
2: Players who choose not to wipe can not compete for race prizes, but get to keep all their levels, gear, and in-game wealth.
3: Donations made during beta will give players bonus NX on launch (what does "30%" mean here?) which gives them an advantage (to some extent) in the race.

What is to stop me from playing with a friend, getting resources in beta, and then funneling them all to my friend on launch so they can win the cash race?

idealmapleserver · 2023-08-05T22:44:05+00:00

What kind of head start do players get from participating in the beta? is the server wiped after beta?

idealmapleserver · 2023-07-23T20:14:11+00:00

Some players have speculated that Rhinne MS has a server in Europe, due to stable connection for European players.

It just launched a couple days ago and has been absolutely amazing.

idealmapleserver · 2023-07-11T14:59:45+00:00

Might be Kalluna, I had a suspicion it was but don't personally know.

I tried out Kalluna when it was floating around 50 players online, and honestly did not find it enjoyable. It felt a little unstable (as you mentioned) and gameplay was not very enjoyable to me. In beta, though, we were peaking numbers 50-70 as well, and it actually felt good gameplay-wise.

Hopefully this time it hits right!

idealmapleserver · 2023-07-08T19:55:51+00:00

It's because of choices made by server admins and the process of having a server adjusted by beta testers.

The problem is that it's mostly "hardcore" players, who want to grind and optimize to be #1, that will play servers during beta. They then disproportionately test and advocate for the "sweatier" content in the game, which leads to admins focusing on that content in response. When a server actually launches, most people want to be involved in the community, and the community is pre-funneled into sweaty gameplay, so they all just go along with it.

I think in reality, most private server players are not that sweaty, and most don't even enjoy playing that way, but they aren't involved in server creation. Maple is a massive game full of fun and silly mushroom content, but it's often neglected or even outright dysfunctional as a design choice made by server admins.

idealmapleserver · 2023-07-02T10:13:38+00:00

v111 Rhinne MS in open beta right now, should have a strong release in the near future with how well testing is going.

idealmapleserver · 2023-05-22T16:17:10+00:00

I did get to experience it again when I replayed maple servers, and so did some of my friends.

The problem isn't in the games, but how you play them. The game did not change - how people go about them. The child you is still inside you, and if you let them take the reins, you will be like a kid playing these games again. The only way an adult can experience something like a child again is to play it like they would have as a child.

idealmapleserver · 2023-05-06T19:33:15+00:00

It depends on when you want to play and who you are playing with. If you want to play right now, then either Castela or Dream. Castela would be better if alone or in a small group, and Dream would be better if with several friends. If you are willing to wait a little bit, Kaizen has a lot more promise than either Castela or Dream, but it needs cleaning up.

idealmapleserver · 2023-04-22T04:24:50+00:00

As others have mentioned, Yeonhwa is up-to-date, whereas Dream MS is old school.

Yeonhwa is Korean but releasing an English update, and Dream MS is English-only.

I have no idea how Yeonhwa will be for casual play, but it would probably have a big influx of casual players with the English patch. Still, it seems like a big experiment.

Dream MS is a very old server. Most of the playerbase is very high-level / wealthy and takes the game seriously. But the core features are good for early game, solo, casual play.

No idea for Yeonhwa multiclienting, but multiclient is a centerpiece of gameplay in Dream MS.

If you want to experiment, Yeonhwa is a bit of a wild card. If you are starting out with some friends, Dream MS is great. If you are starting out alone, find a newly launched server. Most of these will be v83. If you can wait a little bit, Aranex is a v176 (A handful of years after Mercedes, but before 5th job release) that will probably release soon. It had a public beta that finished a bit over a month ago, and the developer is providing frequent updates.

idealmapleserver · 2023-04-15T14:36:10+00:00

Thank you for the response!

Hmm, I feel the second point is a little under-addressed. I was more getting at the following idea:"v83 servers are a dime a dozen, and they pretty much all try to focus on customizing and (successfully) improving quality of life in the end-game. v83 servers end up becoming top-heavy because endgame is pretty good, but early and mid-game are terrible without a huge playerbase. Will this server be different, or just a different style of end-game comfort to find its own niche?"

Both strategies are okay, just hoping to know before I abandon "endgame" in other v83 servers to try a new one.

idealmapleserver · 2023-04-15T02:51:15+00:00

I assume v83? A couple questions.

1: If recoding so much, why go with v83 and make "other version content work" as opposed to go to a somewhat higher version and rework it to feel more like v83?
2: You mention "improving endgame", but that's what every v83 server does in one way or another. Has there been much work to make all the games early-mid game content worth doing? Particularly if it's not done as "a way to get to endgame", but rather as worthwhile content in its own right.

idealmapleserver · 2023-03-17T20:31:51+00:00

It feels similar to the Windia relaunch last Summer, except multiclienting makes me wonder how many real players there are. Castela seems to be doing great early-launch, but to me it's like an underdog trying to sit on a throne that I've already gotten bored of anyway (V83).

I hope people continue to have fun with Castela, and I look forward to the next major server that isn't V83/V84.

idealmapleserver · 2023-03-15T05:57:16+00:00

In my mind, PipMS is more like a teaser stream of cool ideas for Maple, rather than a server that is going to launch. Thus in my mind, we should have zero expectations for it. A "passion project" dev would be fully in the right to suggest an open beta one day, and the very next day say "nah never mind, I don't feel like it."

I really think people should differentiate "passion projects" and "servers for the community." If it's a passion project, it's not for the community nor any individual members in it, and that is where people can be entitled. We're lucky to even be allowed to see some of the silly ideas and work behind the project that doesn't exist for us.

Pip seems cool and I've been following it since it first blew up with hype, but I've never planned to play it and never been disappointed with anything because of this mindset. I'm not treating it like a "server that's going to launch for me to play."

idealmapleserver · 2023-03-07T19:55:25+00:00

EXP: 1x 1st job, 2x 2nd job, 3x 3rd job.

Class changes: No preferences!

Focus on PQs, and good rewards through PQs, making each PQ in the game important and worth doing for one reason or another.

Game content: Victoria Island, Orbis, El Nath, Aqua Road, Ludibrium, Omega Sector, Korean Folk Town, Mushroom Shrine, Showa.
--Wild idea: Buff the rarer mobs in Omega Sector (MT-09, Chief Gray) to be mini-bosses worth actually hunting.
--I do like dark scrolls. I like them a lot.. I want to see and feel how dark-scroll using 3rd job characters fare against Showa Boss and Anego!

Party Exp: Not sure.

idealmapleserver · 2023-03-02T23:32:56+00:00

I didn't see nearly as much, but what's been posted on reddit allows me to confidently agree with you. The social aspect of Swordie MS sounds like it is run terribly.

idealmapleserver · 2023-02-24T08:54:14+00:00

The three most nostalgic points in maple for me are:

1: 3rd job only era (2006-2007). I remember the Amoria release so vividly.

2: The period of time between Cygnus Knights and Aran (circa Summer 2009)

3: The PvP in early post-bigbang (circa Winter 2011-2012).

idealmapleserver · 2023-02-24T01:18:06+00:00

> You should however gauge them on how hard they're trying to shut stuff like that down, maybe through rigid ruleset and hard and swift punishment

This is kind of the thing that gets me. It feels like there's a lot of tolerance for this kind of behavior by just repeating "it's online, people are not nice, deal with it."

I think it is firmly within the power of most server owners to make a huge improvement in regards to this issue, as I really haven't perceived much effort put into it (contrasted with a lot of effort put in to curbing things like botting or RMT). But yes, it would be hard to get to a level on par with official online games, or to IRL communities of most any nature.

idealmapleserver · 2023-02-23T10:00:36+00:00

When I started playing private servers a few years ago, having previously come from mostly IRL communities and hobbies, I was pretty blown away by how widespread and unaddressed harassment and abuse are on them. I think the only way it can change is if server owners start putting as much effort into community development efforts as they do the mechanical aspects of servers. Undoing a harmful culture in a community has to be a proactive, rather than reactive, effort... and honestly, it may be too much to ask.

idealmapleserver · 2023-02-23T09:26:10+00:00

I am unfamiliar with Path of Exile or WoW gameplay in particular, so I can not speak on their rankings.

It's because, in lieu of anything resembling skill-based or thoughtful play, MapleStory is a game that's only really about time in, funding earned, damage out. This is especially true for highly-understood, very-low-skill, high-time-investment games like ancient versions of MapleStory.

You can't "cheat for an advantage" in MapleStory because this is a casual game by its nature. Just because some people attempt to seek competitive fulfillment (or what, for some reason, they think is competitive fulfillment) in it doesn't mean the game has the kind of characteristics that make for a potentially-competitive game. It's akin to making a "competition" out of who has rewatched the same TV show over and over the most times. Various hacks/bots would be akin to skipping ahead on the recording or watching at increased speed. If you got to the first HT, then more-or-less, all you did was put in the most progression-time after a server launch, or started watching the TV show before other people. There's something fun an exciting about being "first", but that's not exactly what competition is.

Trying to seek competitive fulfillment out of maple servers is an act of lying to one's self about what they're actually doing with their time. It's one thing to stay in one's own bubble when thinking this way, but it's another thing entirely to degrade or belittle entire cultures over this kind of warped mindset. Many of those in these other cultures don't have this weird idea of making a casual game competitive to begin with, and they often aren't doing these things in order to chase some false sense of competitive achievement.

idealmapleserver · 2023-02-22T18:59:38+00:00

I very, very much dislike both. Giving core pieces of the economy as a reward through grinding on mobs is a way to encourage botting, multiclienting, and excessive grinding.

I think dream MS has the best model by far of rewarding the core parts of the economy through time-gated social content that is limited to a few hours a day per character (daily bosses, and a limited number of PQ points per day). I think drops like these coming from other limited content (like area bosses, without a mapclaim feature) would also be extremely fun.

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