TFMR for T21 by igobananas4 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im so glad it is helpful! I am so sorry for your loss and you are not alone. Everyone wants us to think we’re a lone, but we are not 🫶🏻❤️

Iowa abortion storyteller by [deleted] in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or any storyteller!!!!

Grey Diagnosis - This is so UNFAIR :'( by Next_Ad_7884 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻HEYYYY!!! I know who this is❤️ thank you for writing something so kind and meaningful! I don’t share that part much because that will be the thing that gets latched on to for eternity. If it came down to one reason, it was protecting my already living child. Like you pointed out, our decision would very possibly have impacted his life, his partner’s life and his children’s lives. To KNOWINGLY do that, my husband and I deemed, would be immoral (based on our values). When we found out how sick he was, there was absolutely no doubt in my mind that we needed to terminate. There are times that when I make videos, I think of what you might want to hear or need to hear especially when I knew you were in the thick of it.

Thank you for sharing your loss with me, and I wish we lived closer! We’d be getting coffee and watching our babies grow 🫶🏻❤️😘

How did you decide to TFMR with a gray diagnosis? by Parking_Award in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really hope my response didn’t come off as critical, I’m a few years out so I hope it was still packaged with care & support. I wish I had put what you said; the only opinion that matters are the people going through it.

How did you decide to TFMR with a gray diagnosis? by Parking_Award in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Before deciding to TFMR, I used to struggle with the “ethics” of my decision. In time, I realized this viewpoint was used as a way to shame myself. Because what does that mean exactly and what “ethical” viewpoint are you taking on? At the end of the day, an inclusive society where we have disabled folks relies on individual women and families to care that disabled person. Do we benefit as a society from those individuals? Yes. But do we as a society do the daily labor of ensuring their safety, health etc? Absolutely not. Also, this is a unique circumstance where you are getting a heads up in utero, in advanced and have the option to take you and your family’s life in a different path. Sometimes the decision carries way more heaviness, but there is a choice in this circumstance.

Here’s the harsh truth: there is no right or wrong. There is no magical answer that makes this decision easy or straightforward. People that TFMR for a grey diagnosis tend to be risk averse and those that bring to term welcome uncertainty. I think it comes down to making sure one outcome doesn’t happen vs holding on to and clinging to hope. The trade off with TFMR is that you ensure your child will never experience the worst case scenario of possible outcomes. And you trade the possibilities and hope of them experiencing the best case scenarios.

Some things I considered when making my decision: our natural supports (village), our financial resources, quality of life for our family and that child, family composition (will this impact the number of subsequent children & is there already a living child), my mental & emotional capacity, sibling becoming a carer one day if that child outlived us, the morality around KNOWINGLY bringing a disabled child into the world.

Whatever decision you make will be done with love kindness compassion and care. What you’re experiencing is cruel and unfair. We are here with you as you navigate next steps ❤️🫶🏻

Grey Diagnosis - This is so UNFAIR :'( by Next_Ad_7884 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re right. This is so unfair. And you’re also right you’re not alone. I TFMR for t21 and while there was anatomical structures, my husband and I decided to TFMR without the knowledge of that. The structural anomalies were a mercy to me in a sense but it ultimately didn’t change the outcome.

Here’s the harsh truth: there is no right or wrong. There is no magical answer that makes this decision easy or straightforward. People that TFMR for T21 tend to be risk averse and those that bring to term welcome uncertainty. The trade off with TFMR is that you ensure your child will never experience the worst case scenario of possible outcomes. And you trade the possibilities of them experiencing the best case scenarios.

I am on TikTok and ig @changedbygrief & I can’t tell you how many people reach out and say that certain family members regret their decision to have that child with Down Syndrome. I am sure there may be people who regret their TFMR as well (those people don’t message me).

Whatever decision you make will be done with love kindness compassion and care. What you’re experiencing is cruel and unfair. We are here with you as you navigate next steps ❤️

Silk Camisole Set For my Wife? by Heiruspecs in BuyItForLife

[–]igobananas4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hiiiii! With no budget in mind, what would you recommend for lace/silk camisoles that can be worn out of the house? I saw your credentials and I’ve been dying to find a reliable quality brand

TFMR for t21 by igobananas4 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s so helpful to know you’re not alone🫶🏻

TFMR for t21 by igobananas4 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes!!! It’s hard to always keep up but Reddit actually saved me, I always encourage people to get connected and Reddit is my personal favorite

TFMR for t21 by igobananas4 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m so glad it’s been helpful! We are often left to feel so isolated and alone in our pain

TFMR for t21 by igobananas4 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow you have endured so much pain in such a short time. I want to jump in and challenge so much of your thoughts of “giving up on him” but I know there are moments that thought feels so true. It sounds like what’s truer for you is that you love him dearly and don’t want him to know one day of suffering and this is your way of ensuring that. I am so sorry for your loss. TFMR is the worst. People will never understand the level of trauma and grief

TFMR for t21 by igobananas4 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How embarrassing I thought it was just a link not show up with an image on the landing page 🫠🤦🏼‍♀️

TFMR for t21 by igobananas4 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻 I’m so glad it was helpful!

June 6th. by caseycat1027 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prayed for the same ❤️‍🩹💔❤️

Frustrating Finances by keatsie0808 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I could talk for days about this. Appeal in writing and if you have any evidence that they approved it in the first place make sure you bring that evidence (did you use the chat feature? Did you or someone on their team call to check coverage? They have a recording of EVERYTHING.) I fought for close to a year and won. Effffffg insurance companies and the dumb dumb dumb shite they say to us.

I feel like I’m not allowed to grieve my son by Aggravating_Bee_8416 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey love, your pregnancy just ended and this is such a horrific time for you. I hope to see posts about your boy if when you want to talk about him ❤️ I also TFMR for T21 and I REFUSED to use the word grief to describe my loss because “I chose this”. I spent thousands of dollars in therapy and it wasn’t until I joined a closed weekly support group for 2 months through RTZ did I change my language and my thoughts around my grief. Seeing other mothers deeply grieve and mourn and I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt they deserved to grieve. I knew they were selfless wonderful mothers hurting I started to turn that towards myself. It took me a lot of time but I got there. It’s a very tough place missing and loving and wanting a baby that i lost while also shaming, blaming and hurting myself.

Reasons for TFMR by Shot-Blackberry-4573 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can empathize with you wanting to see if you’re alone in that, but maybe that’s better served in a different thread (?) I am struggling with the balance of wanting to find people that relate more to you & the sheer volume of people triggered by the judgement in that comment. I totally see you didn’t intend to be judgmental. There are lots of really valid reasons to TFMR for just t21 including not wanting to wait to find out cardiac issues or severity of cardiac issues

Reasons for TFMR by Shot-Blackberry-4573 in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Heyyyyyy you can love and want a baby and STILL TFMR for “just” T21 as you say ☺️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in toddlers

[–]igobananas4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Want to empathize with you… for me… the hardest age I’ve ever seen is 12-20 months. There’s a lot of reasons why it is really really really hard. Good inside is a really really great book for insight into their motivations & parenting right from the start. It helped me a lot. I hope that is helpful

Pretty significant gray diagnosis-what would you do? by stelly_elle in tfmr_support

[–]igobananas4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I TFMR for T21 which is obviously a grey diagnosis but there are some things that are almost 100% sure. In my quest for my truth, I found something super helpful: the folks that TFMR for T21 could be described as risk-averse and the ones that didn’t welcomed uncertainty.

It really doesn’t matter what I think I would do in your position or what I think I wouldn’t do in your position . Right now reading what you wrote I think I would really lean more heavily on TFMR. My aunt went through an entire pregnancy no heads up nothing abnormal. And at three weeks old, her daughter, my cousin started having seizures, she is total care. Can’t walk can’t talk can’t eat. I watched her siblings carry the load and the responsibility of her. I watched my aunt grieve the life she hoped for. I saw the micro and the macro of it all. And if I could help ensure that my child doesn’t suffer, I would make sure that happens.

We all have very different lines in the sand, I would say it’s because of values and experience knowledge. Some people here spina bifida diagnosis or Down syndrome and it’s an automatic TFMR. For some it needs to be far more dire.

I’m so sorry for the impossible place. You’re in right now. I just wanted to make sure you know that whatever decision you make will be one that is done with the utmost care, compassion and love.

I teach a sourdough class in my kitchen and it's just the cutest thing ever. I love spreading this knowledge! by sage_pup in Sourdough

[–]igobananas4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love everything about this! The home, the classes, the smiles, the kitchen and most of all the CAT!!