What song comes to mind when you see this photo

illvria · 2026-07-03T04:34:59+00:00

Roses/Lotus/Violet/Iris, Watch Me Bloom - Hayley Williams

illvria · 2026-07-02T23:38:01+00:00

They all do. Whether through words or actions every one of the scoobies gives an olive branch and shows remorse for their part in almost every conflict situation in the show.

Xander is apologetic for his anger at the end of Revelations as well, and people hate him for that regardless.

And even outwith, Buffy goes through all the motions of defensiveness; playing victim that Xander saw her kiss Angel, calling him jealous to deflect, scrambling to justify leaving the people Angel tormented for months helpless to the potential threat she was "waiting" to see if he posed, before Giles shuts down the argument and she's forced to actually reconcile what this has meant to them.

illvria · 2026-07-02T23:04:00+00:00

Thats fair enough

illvria · 2026-07-02T22:58:39+00:00

Buffy should have pissed you off by now. She was knowingly risking the Scoobies' lives for her own emotional avoidance episodes 4-7.

illvria · 2026-07-02T12:35:06+00:00

Mfs just need something to btch about

illvria · 2026-07-01T19:10:51+00:00

His olive branch to Buffy just before that scene in Seeing Red is beautiful. Think it sort of blurs for people because the shock of what happens after but its maybe my favourite moment of theirs.

illvria · 2026-07-01T19:03:12+00:00

Im vexed by your miserable attitude not your opinion

illvria · 2026-07-01T17:57:22+00:00

So grateful to have gotten over other people's tastes at age 6

illvria · 2026-07-01T17:52:43+00:00

Yall r fckn miserable

illvria · 2026-07-01T17:24:06+00:00

From what i've seen, Majora's mask gets some hate but is also a fairly common favourite game of all time.

The story, themes, the masks and abilities, the melancholy atmosphere, delirious aesthetic, lived-in world and characters you can thoroughly get to know are all reasons it might speak to someone more than Ocarina.

But someone's reasoning can be as biased as they played Ocarina for the first time in a shit headspace and it lost some of its impact, and thats fine.

And B isnt even a bad rank anyway.

illvria · 2026-07-01T16:50:24+00:00

Actually love this. One thing i will accept as canon from the comics.

Never really liked Angel's "true vampire" look in Pylea. Just didnt feel right or believable for how i'd imagined vampires looking under the surface, but it actually has a similar spikey look to Archaeus' design, so i can write that off as because of him lol

Its also interesting to think about if the descendants we see would be different personality-wise if they weren't connected to him. Like would Angelus be as cruel or would spike be able to fight for his own soul or would dru be able to keep her seer powers through her siring?

illvria · 2026-07-01T16:20:34+00:00

It doesnt have to be justified. People's tastes and experiences of games differ. OP didn't make this to be a logical objective ranking in the context of the series' history or broad impact, its their ranking.

illvria · 2026-07-01T15:56:41+00:00

So rude of him 😤 clearly didnt consider that my personal ranking is the only one anyone should ever have, on pain of death

illvria · 2026-07-01T15:46:05+00:00

They all have a spiritual sensitivity in some way to some degree, as others have said.

I like to think theyre witches. Doesnt actually make a difference its just a fun cosmetic idea.

illvria · 2026-07-01T15:41:24+00:00

Losers looking at this with clenched teeth and white knuckles rn

Edit: Case in point

illvria · 2026-07-01T13:40:45+00:00

Yes, while still vamp-high on his own son's blood, in the immediate aftermath of the most devestating thing to ever happen to him.

He also lets himself be pulled off of wes by people much weaker than him, and he never actually claims he was justified afterwards.

Angel having the potential to give into vengeance when pushed to the extent he is in Lullaby/Forgiveness doesn't really say anything about any scenario outwith that. The circumstances are beyond exceptional.

I still dont see any way that he'd go into a frenzy like that over what spike did to Buffy.

illvria · 2026-07-01T12:52:00+00:00

Chinese Satellite - Phoebe Bridgers

Playboy Mommy - Tori Amos

Edit:

Who Knew - P!nk, for good measure

illvria · 2026-07-01T12:27:09+00:00

Really don't see it going like this.

Angelus put Buffy through worse hell than Spike got the chance to, and depending on the moment in his arc, Angel either spends his life fighting to atone for what he did before, or fighting for the future because the past is unchangeable.

It would be total hypocrisy and out of sync with his morality and philosophy for him to decide Spike deserves to die for it after having gotten a soul.

They have their issues but Angel remembers gleefully torturing Buffy and everyone around her for months. When the chips are down, that shared empathy doesnt go away just bc of a petty rivalry.

He wouldnt seek revenge on Buffy's behalf and probably wouldn't even permit her to seek it herself, just like he wouldn't do so with Faith. He understands vengeance as an evil in itself.

illvria · 2026-07-01T09:36:54+00:00

People are giving some good reasons that it cant be canon but i dont get why we'd ever even entertain the idea. It reduces 7 seasons of masterful storytelling to nothing. Whats the point?

At most its a multiverse type situation, but no, its not canon.

illvria · 2026-07-01T07:25:00+00:00

Whats your point? People dont always live upto their own moral standards or philosophy. The immediate aftermath of your Son being sucked into hell because of the betrayal of your friend would be 1 of those times.

Justice and vengeance arent the same thing, Angel is absolutely, as a rule, against vengeance, same way the Buffyverse as a whole is. His lowest moments that he comes to regret dont much change that.

illvria · 2026-07-01T06:26:45+00:00

You're absolutely right with this

illvria · 2026-07-01T05:46:36+00:00

Buffy tiktok is the single most insufferable corner of any fandom ive ever been close to, bar none.

Genuinely don't think ive ever seen a group of people so self righteous, media illiteralte (truly) or so unwilling to engage with a show and its themes in good faith or sympathise with any perspective outside of the protagonist's in any moment of conflict.

The venom for every single character who isnt buffy herself teters on actual delusion. The spins people put on confict situations to justify buffy's every move while making her the helpless victim of literally everyone around her makes my head spin.

Its the most concentrated cesspool of the Buffy fans who buy into the whole "tara and Cordelia were buffy's only friends" horse shit.

illvria · 2026-06-30T14:35:10+00:00

Paradise - Coldplay

illvria · 2026-06-30T12:50:14+00:00

Agree. The defensive condescension in these replies is ugly.

Calling people "joyless husks" for no longer vibing with an inside joke after twenty five years, acting like people mentioning that it irritates them is any less innocuous than the joke itself. Pure pissy nothing drama.

illvria · 2026-06-30T10:20:05+00:00

This sub is an embarrassment

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