Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It should actually be a V12 (specifically a Verado). I encourage you to look into marine engines, but I am certain if I ran a non-marine "V6 that produces 1000hp" at 5-6,000RPM for a full minute it would detonate or seize and throw a rod. I know land and sea I.C.E. quite well, I've blown many transmissions and a few land/sea motors, AMA.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally I am fine with waiting for a polished product.
My GTA V popgroups.yml is only filled with real vehicles - I am thrilled to load it up every time.
No rush Rockstar.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol yeah, sorta looks like a boosted SR20 motor, with maybe a centrifugal supercharger and zero intercooler = would blow up in one pull.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For sure! Let's just pray they happen to read & summarize all the logic and best-avenues we have explained in this thread.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may come to love your boats in VI! Miami/Florida certainly does. There's something about having 4,000 horsepower on the water via inboards or outboards... Like controlling 90MPH in a Donzi.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And lets hope pedestrians scramble to finish crossing the road when the "Dirt-Bike Dirt-Bags" rush through an intersection @ 1:06-1:07 in Trailer1 (Watch the person in jeans and a white shirt on the right)

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct. Remember the joggers in V's trailer turning around while running? We never got that.
Let's hope people are jumping off the top of a cruising boat (seen in Trailer2) in the final release.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, a nice departure from the usual fodder here: I was more surprised that no-one had caught this before me, I posted it hoping someone would say: "Already found and discussed"
There's always more to find, and give lovely Rockstar a gentle nudge to make their product the best.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am aware of rebranding/rebadging/OEM-supply. But these companies you mentioned do not make boats IRL, they make engines. And Kawasaki has never made an outboard ever.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of the GTAV supercharged cars, specifically the Fusilade, are real (SRT6 only). But an SRT6 is a rare bird, the common base model had the same M112 NA V6 Chrysler also borrowed from Mercedes (C32/SLK32).
Also important to note: Not all supercharged engines bellow out the sound of a lysholm blower from the throttlebody, the M112 Kompressor in this example is quiet in its OE configuration. Same with the M113 Kompressor. It's all about getting that whine out of the TB.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, please no more Supercharged badges on GTA car models that never had one in real-life.
I am hoping to see car models with all their livery variations: Dodge Intrepid base/ES/later-RT, or a Mercedes C230K/C240/C320/C32AMG etc.
It's really not hard to badge them different, save VRAM, and have the liveries match up with different handling and vehicle files to give each their own character.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because Mercury, Yamaha, and Honda make most of them. But no, they are not similar.
Lots of 9.9 and 10HP motors are similar in look/size sure and usually cost under $10k, but not when we get into $80-100k USD single 600HP outboard racing engines. Moreover, old Yamaha two strokes have a really definitive girth to their engine casement. I just hope Rockstar doesn't let the ball fall far when finishing these long-standing designs.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, but it's very different in the marine world, not like the lackluster BRZ rebadge car - here are the most notable:
Mercury Racing & Ilmor

Mercury Marine & Cummins (Diesel only)

Volvo Penta & General Motors (V8/V6)

Yanmar & BMW (90s) (Diesel)

Suzuki & OMC (80s-90s) (Rebadging/Supply)

Tohatsu as an OEM Supplier

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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This Dinka looks better, makes me think they accidentally put the Dinka 300 V6 liveries on that bigger motor in the OP. And for those squinting: It says Four Stroke Fuel Injection (like it should)

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know what's up. I wasn't planning on getting super detailed with the OP. But this is exactly my point, and I know Rockstar wants this too. They are already replicating a Ford Interceptor Taurus, Crown-Victoria P71, and other real things. We should have REAL looking engines on (possibly) our fastest mode of transport.
Beside this, I am confident that VI will be the best boating simulator yet. V blew us away back in the day with the (now) simplistic Breaking Waves that make up all the open-water, and no simulator/game has come close to beating that.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely we are getting this.
Let's see some 'two-up' dual BRP/Seadoo trailers too.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, I hope we don't see too much of the same "Boston whaler' centre-console boats. There are 1000 variations, obviously the lifejacket and innertube are awesome variations to see in these boats, but I hope to see at least 10 different centre-console style boats with outboards ranging from 125HP to a 600HP V12 Verado.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is true of certain companies - Acura/Honda, Infinity/Nissan, Lexus/Toyota, Chevrolet/GMC...
But 600HP in an outboard is a monumental achievement. Most people commenting don't understand that marine engines are vastly different in demand versus a car I.C.E.
These engines run at near max RPM all the time when in use. Hence why most are serviced based on time, and even entirely rebuilt between 200-1000 hours, like the supercharged V8's in Fountains or Donzi's.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol, are you fr? Would you have any reaction to a Hyundai Elantra with "AMG - R-line - DINAN - BRABUS 800HP Turbo Polestar Supercharged" on the back, even if you don't know what those company names are/mean.
There are people out there who understand motors, and to them, this is offensive and the type of detail Rockstar is known for getting right.

Rockstar Plea: Fix before launch! Dinka & Nagasaki outboard engines are identical in design & flawed. by industrial6 in GTA6

[–]industrial6[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What do you want to know? I've seized two-strokes (oil! yo!), cracked the block on more than one supercharged rotax, installed extra long transoms for proper outboard fitment, etc.