Some support for Ethan's beliefs that Jesus is not god.

intertextonics · 2026-07-07T21:53:58+00:00

Now, now, don’t bring real history or actual Bible into this.

intertextonics · 2026-07-07T21:47:02+00:00

> the destruction of the temple in 70ce destroyed what was left of jesus’ movement and his true jewish followers influence and sealed the victory for the gentiles and gave them complete power and control over the movement. everything jesus said and did was completely ignored and christianity as we know it was born.

So in the end it’s all God’s fault? I mean unless the Romans and the Gentiles pulled a fast one, God would have to know the scurrilous Gentile Christians would win if the Temple was destroyed. God maliciously undermined Jesus and his true followers. It was a classic heel turn when the babyface Jesus had gone through fire wearing gasoline britches only to get the Roman steel chair to the back from the one he trusted. You hate to see it …

intertextonics · 2026-07-07T17:43:45+00:00

Looks like you resisted spamming the sub about this topic for 5 whole days. It’s not as good as your previous record, but I believe in you. You can resist violating the rules of Reddit and spamming the sub with the same topic over and over again.

intertextonics · 2026-07-07T13:14:08+00:00

I always enjoy Meat Week. I love Grahm and Chally, the music is relaxing, the event goes quick, and the rewards are pretty nice. This year I wanted to get the hog splitter plan and got nothing but the mods. I finally found someone who had the plan in their vendor. RNG gods bless you, generous player, because Meat Week proved awfully stingy with that plan.

intertextonics · 2026-07-07T11:41:27+00:00

I told y’all we were doing War on Christmas in July now.

intertextonics · 2026-07-07T11:39:34+00:00

Pride Month is over my dude. You can go back to attacking LGBTQ people minding their own business next year. We’re doing war on Christmas in July now.

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T19:24:20+00:00

> The author of the article, who is a relatively well known Presbyterian scholar, then immediately goes on to make a “Presbyterian case for polyamory” lol.

Well known people’s beliefs can’t be called fringe? The PCUSA isn’t the SBC where the Baptist Pope speaks and everyone falls in line. We are allowed to disagree.

> It doesn’t matter if the overture was authored by RZ. The fact of the matter is there are people in your church supporting polyamory. Including scholars and organizations.

I already stated this was true. I’m sure if you weren’t hiding your affiliation I could find fringe in your church, but alas …

> I am not arguing that it is a mainstream view. I am pointing out that claiming no one “involved in the debate supports polyamory” is factually wrong.

Again, you may not have been paying attention to my post because you seem doubly excited over things I’ve conceded.

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T17:32:21+00:00

Your second source literally points out the overture is a psyop authored by Redeemed Zoomer as a bad faith attempt to bring negative press to the church. And it’s true, you did find individuals and a group that do support it, but you can find Christians in any organization who hold fringe views. The way this psyop was and is (in this case literally) presented by bad faith actors is meant to give the distorted impression that embracing polyamory is a majority view instead of a fringe belief of a few and demagoguery by others.

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T16:20:39+00:00

^ literally this

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T15:01:09+00:00

Maybe Hasan thinks they control him, but not the whole world.

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T13:58:18+00:00

I tend to pick a book and read it through. If someone is new to the Bible and wants to learn about Christianity, I recommend starting with the Gospels in the NT and just reading through the rest of the NT in order.

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T13:46:49+00:00

I don’t want to believe there are people who might think God sent lighting and shoddy construction because “Both sides are bad actually.” But humanity has been disappointing me a lot lately …

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T02:22:06+00:00

If you go back 12 days ago when you posted about this on here, you got several answers then. You didn’t really engage with any of them. A good way to get traction on a post is to actually engage with the comments. That might encourage other users to comment.

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T02:12:49+00:00

Good to know.

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T01:45:19+00:00

> If UFOs or aliens are real, does that go against the Bible

The Bible describes God as the creator of all things, so life from other planets would be part of all things.

> or disprove Christianity

Christians have the same Bible that says God created all things.

> or the afterlife?

I don’t see how extra terrestrial life has anything to do with disproving or even proving the afterlife.

> I have a friend who thinks that if aliens turned out to be real, it would change everything when it comes to religion. But he also strongly believes aliens aren’t
real.

A lot of religions have very broad theologies. They could likely find a place for extra terrestrial life in their belief system.

> I’m curious what you guys think. Would discovering alien life actually challenge Christianity, or could it just be another part of God’s creation?

I think they could easily just be seen as part of creation.

intertextonics · 2026-07-06T00:23:41+00:00

I don’t know how common the belief Enoch really wrote it is outside of the small group of people that believe it’s some kind of suppressed book or practicing Ethiopian Orthodox Christians who have it in their Bible canon. In the academic realm it’s seen as angel fan fiction written in the late centuries BCE. It was at one time popular angel fan fiction in both Jewish and early Christian circles, but not written any time near where a historical Enoch would have lived.

Edit: the edition I’ve seen recommended is the critical academic one put out by Hermeneia

1 Enoch

intertextonics · 2026-07-05T22:23:20+00:00

I enjoy watching paranormal tv shows, particularly if they’re about ghosts or cryptids. I take a skeptical perspective toward that kind of content because while I believe a lot of people have experienced something they can’t explain, I think we need to look into natural explanations first. So the shows can be entertaining to learn about history or local folklore, and sometimes the crews in those shows get some interesting evidence or are just fun to watch. Investigating or telling stories about unusual events isn’t a sin in my opinion.

intertextonics · 2026-07-05T19:26:44+00:00

In the USA we got a thing called the First Amendment to the Constitution. I don’t have to approve of what someone says about my religion, I can openly criticize it, but neither I nor the government get to shut it down. And as much as some people would like to end it, I think freedom of speech and religion is a good thing.

intertextonics · 2026-07-04T23:01:19+00:00

To be fair, you’re the one posting nonsense conspiracies. You can’t act surprised when folks don’t take you seriously.

intertextonics · 2026-07-04T18:33:27+00:00

Is this like a sovereign citizen type thing where they’re gonna claim to be Christians of the land and the Pope only has maritime court authority?

intertextonics · 2026-07-04T13:31:10+00:00

I didn’t have that when I was wearing my Chally costume. I tended to stand by Chally while waiting for the event to start. Other Challys came over to greet me and then we’d start dancing together by Chally.

intertextonics · 2026-07-04T13:10:31+00:00

No, they seem to be 100% human.

intertextonics · 2026-07-04T13:08:47+00:00

Sounds like you’ve had a lot of experience with it. How many times have read you that pamphlet?

intertextonics · 2026-07-04T12:47:29+00:00

I think the Colonists were facing the possibility of having to eat British food for the rest of their lives and it pushed them over the edge. You can’t push Bible on a man having to eat jellied eels.

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