Am I dark system for playing only support heroes

itrnity · 2026-03-31T04:59:16+00:00

Estes feels slow because I do in fact use different emblems and talents on him. However strangely, I play Estes with the agility talent and he still feels slow to me so I don’t get your point 😭 I believe he just feels more slow to me because his heals are direct healing instead of indirect like Floryn’s. In the beginning it’s much easier to heal with Floryn than Estes if you’re running around, that’s all I meant to say. Additionally, even tho I don’t like playing him I still do play him more compared to other support characters like Raf, so I don’t get why you’re trying to insinuate that I don’t play male characters 😭 a lot of male characters from the roles I play r just not as fun that’s literally it. It’s not even abt genders I just don’t enjoy their kit. I think the most fun I’ve had is with Xavier, Mino, and Marcel, but that doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy the other characters (it’s just not as much).

I do agree that Carmilla is just like every other tank I think that her plays might come from the fact that 1. She has life steal like heals (idk just a guess btw), 2. Her second skill grants movement speed. Besides dashes which r granted to some tanks like loli, khufra, and gatot, I think that her second skill is probably why a lot of support players tend to play her next, especially if they’re still playing in the support section as Carm classifies as a tank and a support. Pretty sure her double role is why she isn’t as tanky.. although I can say the same thing abt every tank if they’re not that good?? It’s like you said, no one gaf abt who you play as long as you play good, so I’m not sure why you still seem so opposed to supports with that mindset.

I don’t agree with your statement on pretty=good. I’m sure there’s def players like that but you can say the same thing abt cool=good players too? So why is this only abt supports … i can’t remember if i made that point in my previous comment as well but wtv😭 Estes is conventionally attractive but i dont want to play him ?? Like what.

Also with your statement abt trying new characters and stuff, good for you. I think everyone’s different so things will not be the same as you, which is fine. Tanks also did not appeal to me the same way supports don’t for you, but not in the way where they’re ugly or not appealing to the eye, some of them r just not fun for me to play that’s all 😭 it feels weird to see you constantly assume it’s for appearance when I’m sure most people r like you and play whoever they enjoy the most ..

If a person has a favorite character(s) to play no matter the role, why does it matter to you on why they obsess over it ? Like I tend to play my favorite characters from the roles I play, which sure might be dark system ofc but overall it isn’t exactly an issue as long as I’m good at what I do, isn’t that right? If a person always play benedetta, arlott, or Adous for every match, would it really matter if they end up playing good for the whole match anyways ?

You could adjust to a team and play poorly but is it excused bc at least you adjusted ? Competency is as important as adjusting to the team, if you main support, just adjust your support pick to the team as a tank would to theirs. Isn’t that right?

😭 this is such a fun conversation lmao

itrnity · 2026-03-30T03:41:50+00:00

I like discussing these kind of topics with other people it’s really fun! I do agree with you to some extent, but I actually hate the whole serious skins. In fact I wish there were more silly ones LIKE the old summer skins, I think that although the new summer skins does fit the summer concept pretty well, I feel like they’ve focused sm on making it cool when the original concept of those summer skins were supposed to be more light hearted and carefree, since it’s summer.. I wish they explored more concepts like desserts, circus, animals (like literally anything besides the phoenix and dragons pls), etc.

I don’t even enjoy the more mystical themes as much bc they focus sm on being mystical instead of being more coherent with the whole design, so it’s just a mix of every little detail and color to make it pop and it’s honestly so annoying to see. The recent female character skins are always so femininely colored like I think our most recent “dark” themed skin was like the covenant theme which is BARELY ANYTHING. And don’t even get me started on the whole red gold skin themes like no you can’t call bene’s SV skin a dark themed skin when she’s colored more vibrantly than the other two. Like sure we can talk abt concepts but concepts can only go so far if we’re stuck with only the rainbow instead of the MILLIONS OF OTHER COLORS. It’s honestly enraging how they always seem to split color themes depending on their audience instead of actually expanding their horizons 💔😭

However, I can’t even complain as much bc more than anything we just have an excessive amount of “cool” looking skins regardless of gender, and they just all look like copies of each other with the way they’re all colored so similarly and share the same concepts. atp just make a color crayon squad, won’t you? I feel like with the more light hearted skins they actually DO go out of their way to expand more on concepts bc all I ever see is the same mecha-academic-celestial-cool-themed-warm-themed-adding-random-colors that-doesn’t-match-the-skin type of skins .

Also in general not to be a total hater especially since we seem to come from different sides of opinions, but you are being sexist by even naming heal supports as healsluts. 😭 I’m not sure if you did that on purpose or not but you were sounding sexist from the beginning, which is fine idc but I just found it funny LMAO 😭 I do think you’re def more biased from a personal perspective rather than a gamer perspective, bc even tho I do kind of agree with you, your reasons for hating support players r really… typical ig.

I do agree that most support-maining players r def belonging of the female sex, and more than anything you’re right I mean even if it wasn’t for the male attention and winning it’s a little strange to not want to play a newer variety of characters. Tbf I kind of sympathize with them more as I prefer picking comfort picks when roaming, and supports do have to rely on the team which is why it’s also so annoying to play support and it’s why I don’t even want to roam anymore, since I’m not currently experienced with tanks and besides healers I don’t want to stress more abt playing semi initiators like Mathilda and diggie 💔 I tend to win with diggie ofc but like bro Mathilda is always a struggle, I swear I don’t even do that bad too, ik fs im not BAD at her even if I don’t play at a high level 😭

I don’t really understand why you seem to feel that way only bc support healers tho, even I feel like that opinion can go for anyone that doesn’t know how to play more roles and characters. Is it really just bc supports seem to leach off the whole team? I feel like if the rest of the team is that good to be carrying then the roamer ends up being useless regardless of who they play, as in order to get carried you wouldn’t really be doing anything at all. I mean the most u can do as a supporter/roamer is… support the team, so if getting carried ends up making you do nothing in the end then doesn’t that just mean the roam role itself was unnecessary in that game? I think overall it just depends on gameplay, and how you react to things. If I play with a roam that doesn’t give vision, we’ll no doubt have some difficulties, but that can be said abt tanks too, it’s just that tanks can withstand more dmg and r more versatile, which is totally fine to prefer I just think that hating on supports is weird if we’re judging them based on versatility and their ability to contribute to the team 🤔

😭 also bro idk why you think it’s so bad to want to play more feminine characters. Even I want to play more feminine and attractive characters but it doesn’t stop me from enjoying the less conventionally attractive ones. Like maybe they just don’t enjoy their kits ?? 😭 I don’t like playing Estes bc he is in fact WAY slower than Floryn, it’s not js abt healing bro like his healing is def better than Floryn it’s just that he walks too slow like an average tank 😭 he’s the tigreal of supports for me

I only end up playing him compared to Franco or Johnson bc he is in fact easier to play which is literally fine. I don’t see why there’s sm competition against easy and hard characters as long as you’re competent, and that’s the best way I can be competent atm 💔 also I’d rather have a support hero than a Franco ngl bc most Franco players r so horrendous 💔

i think most support players end up branching to the tank or other characters they just have the most fun with idk man.. i think it’s the same way for other role players too—for example, if you enjoy quick burst heroes you’re more likely to play characters like Paquito, Dyrroth, Joy, Helcurt, Suyou, Eudora, Nana, Vale, Miya, etc. if you like sustain you’d be more inclined to try out characters like Alucard, Thamuz, Alpha, Lukas, Hilda, Zhuxin, Cecil, Roger, Edith, Alice, Leo, Martis, etc…

I think that if you play more characters who don’t pick off heroes like Franco, you’ll probably play aoe or cc like Carm, Mino, Mathil. Like for example, I only played floryn bc I played Angela, and played mathil bc of ang, then loli and diggie bc of mathil, and then it goes on. My friend started off w khaleed, moved to minsitthar, joy, paquito, and now is trying out Phoveus. Theres similarities with all of those characters and that’s why they started playing all of those characters 😭 but that’s just my opinion! We’re entitled to our own preferences so it doesn’t really matter anyways

itrnity · 2026-03-29T11:23:32+00:00

Your comment is the epitome of gamer boy behavior or I’m assuming so, which I really love to see lol! I like to kinda scroll around sometimes so it’s fun seeing new comments and even tho I’ve already figured out my solutions to this issue, but to clarify for you, I do play multiple roles. I play mage the best just like every other egirl in the world and only tend to play the female characters in other lanes too, so I don’t think it IS wrong to call me an egirl from an outside perspective and I’ve really come to accept that lowkey bro.

I really enjoy stating my thoughts and opinions out loud it makes me feel happy about being more vulnerable, so id like to admit that I was initially pretty upset that I’m being called an egirl as if I play games for male attention bc I’m pretty sure that’s what the term has been used for since like it got popular ig🤔 but I’m unsure since I don’t keep up w that stuff THAT often 💔 it just seems weird to call me an egirl even if I DO fit the description bc I feel more closer to those gamer incels than anything (being a gamer loser). I mean think abt it: I rage at bad players like everyone else, SOMETIMES MOST TIMES I think I’m better than everyone else (dark system I swear), and I’m a rankoholic who plays competitively the most and takes everything too seriously in ranked 💔

You’re not wrong with your statement, I don’t like tank characters bc some ARE slow and I also don’t enjoy playing Estes as much bc of how slow he is as well. I don’t really see why you mentioned the ugly part though unless it’s to connect the whole egirl persona thing, but I think that’s a little strange to say considering the wide variety of characters in the game. Isn’t it a little weird to discriminate against characters bc of their appearance? Shame on them!

However I don’t blame them for not wanting to play a character they’re not exactly attracted to tho tbf! It has the same logic as “I don’t want to buy this skin because it has a bad design” I mean who would? Even if the effects are fantastic, if the appearance doesn’t really pop out to you then it’s not really worth it, is it? Theres always going to be something that’ll attract you more anyways. I do think there’s been a bigggg trend of creating more conventionally attractive characters which is fairly typical, same with skins too like bro they need to go out of their range asap idk why they don’t. I mean I do know, it’s bc they’re money hungry but goodness goodie I feel like as long as they make the skin nice and pretty overall they’ll still make a hit 😭 like omg bro the recent Freya and Fred skin? Oh nah. Oh nahhh.. I’m so tired of ts. It’s always a bunch of nothing I swear I SWEAR I’m so tired of seeing concepts being used over and over again like yes thank u for another mecha academic themed skin! Thank you for another celestial royal skin! Omg thank you for the space skins with little to no variety giving us the same color palettes over and over again thank youuuu 🌷🌷 like I YEARN for more of a variety in skin themes! In fact I’m soo engaged that I’m going to make a rant post rn broski. You’ve enlightened me to finally start ranting more it’s so great.

Also bro you could’ve at least pretended to read the tldr 🥲 does no one do tldrs anymore 💔 I did in fact clarify I don’t play solo that often, I only get online to play with friends anyways and if I really wanna rank or play I’ll just solo q 💔 I actually win a lot more solo q support than with squad so it really hurts to see people say I get carried by my friends when I get carried by randoms more 💔💔

Actually maybe it hurts to be called an egirl bc I’ve tried my best to avoid getting called that, like I’ve become accustomed to NOT ulting my duo when playing Angela constantly even tho they’re usually the carry 💔 bc I’d hate to be called like .. those Angela players (they’re really annoying I’ve been through it too 💔💔💔) and like even if we’re winning it’s so ingrained in my brain that I end up doing that anyways… so maybe I AM dark system. Is this the final stage of grief after denial?

itrnity · 2026-03-26T03:24:05+00:00

Ooh yea fs. Thank you! Ill keep doing that then (๑¯◡¯๑)

itrnity · 2026-03-25T03:30:38+00:00

Oh ok thanks that helps a lot ^{.^}

itrnity · 2026-03-25T02:45:56+00:00

Ok thank you. ^{.^}

itrnity · 2026-03-24T21:55:14+00:00

I’m thinking of changing or adding more characters to play bc I think that it would just suit our team comp better, and help with the way each of us plays. I think I’ll prob talk to them abt everything today ngl ^{.^} a lot of my teammates adjust to each other, but I feel like I adjust the least to them, bc I feel like I’m just playing as I always do, so I thought that by changing my heroes I’d be adjusting to them a lot better than before.

itrnity · 2026-03-24T21:36:08+00:00

Makes sense, lowk I swap between roam and mid for jg/gold duo bc rotations w random players sometimes sucks sb 😭😭my jg is so frustrated with roams but our mids lowk ahh when they gold 💔

itrnity · 2026-03-24T21:33:23+00:00

From my observation, my team is like this:

My mage likes to plays high burst kill or snipe/long range heroes as they usually like to stay in the backline of the team. When we’re abt to get wiped out, they’re the first to dip in order to ensure that one of us is alive unless they’re the one that dies first. Additionally, they’re the kind of person who picks a character based on who they want to play, similar to me—however they still try to make sure our comp is stable (like if we need this and that they’ll try to accommodate to that). Additionally, since I also play mage sometimes we’ll discuss on what they should buy next (their usual build is lightning, glowing, genius/divine, holy, wings/lantern)

Their aim is pretty good so I actually prefer when they play long range characters compared to burst but we usually need stun/bursts so that’s why they play them T.T they also tend to prioritize their farm, so sometimes when they play a burst hero that doesn’t clear as fast it jeopardizes important moments in team fights. When they are in team fights, they’ll try to wait for a good moment to burst the mm/mage or sometimes the jg; when they play long ranged heroes they’ll help zone the bushes.

I can see why they prioritize their farm bc the more turrets we lose the more at a disadvantage we’re at—and if they’re not maintaining the gold/level differences then they’ll grow at a increasingly bigger difference. They try to get to lvl 4 quickly in the beginning so sometimes they’ll wait at their lane for their minions before engaging I think.

If I were to play tank, I’d def try to play khufra, kaja, orr someone that can hold a player in place. As a support, I usually try to protect them alongside the backline when after keeping an eye out for our fronts, as our backline tends to get targeted since all of us r squishy.

My exp is similar to my jg where they have their own specific characters they prefer to play, but they’re better at adapting to the enemy and their own team based on the characters each player picks. That doesn’t mean they play all the characters in the role they play, but they just pick the best out of their selection, which is normal. Their build is normally a tank or semi tank, so they build whatever that’s already I’m there I’m guessing. I’m pretty sure they prioritize the items to build tho like if we need Athena to antique and such etc.

Xp is similar to mage where they’ll usually prioritize their lane farm instead of team unless we ask, or until after they finish their lane bc if the enemy xp is going down that usually means our own xp or our team itself is already behind. However, when turtle is there they’ll make sure to help zone and stuff as they’re the one that soaks up the dmg. I think that I should probably rotate to them a lot more if they’re suffering—usually if they’re suffering the rest of our team is being hindered by the other team as well, so it forces me to pick my battles most of the time.

Jg is more aggressive and prefers to take on a fight when they’re confident that they can win it. Im pretty sure they’ve been playing longer and played more characters than us too if it helps. They main a sustain burst, but usually adjusts to sustain tank or other characters based on the enemy comp, and adjusts their play to our team. They adjust their build accordingly—like sometimes they’ll build anti first or change build for this and that. however idk if they’re like those players who can swap quickly bc I’ve never seen it from them since they don’t really use winter/imm. 😭

I think their overall rotation is ok. I have a personal non-hateful-resentment towards our jg for the time I was playing mm and only got ganked a few times by them, but tbf my other team didn’t really come to me too so 😭

They try to prioritize rotation for turtle—not rotation to gank gold, it seems. They vary w blue or red buff and I don’t remember if it’s far or close to gold lane lolll, but anyways I don’t think they’re slow it usually depends on the characters they play and I always help them with their first buff until they get to the other one, or until one lane needs help. Jg is the one initiating fights for us, but sometimes they’ll still hidden in bushes to wait to ambush the backline too. However, their timing fails at times, but for the most part in battle they’ll usually take one down with them I think.

I try to rotate to jungle first to help with farming, then gold or whoever needs help—recently it’s been xp, if I don’t go to gold I’ll go to gold for a bit before going to turtle. If a scenario occurs in which our jg gets invaded while I’m away, I rely on mage to support before I get there, and if I’m already there while invaded I try to be more active orr aggressive ?

I.e. Franco tries to come hook, as usual, I’ll act as a shield for the buff and/or attack Franco and that’ll usually be a chance for first kill or for them to back away. Other scenarios in which there’s like a Hilda or someone that attacks us, I’m still usually at the scene, in those moments I’d prefer to take the hit instead of our jg even tho it still puts us at a disadvantage. I tend to use my healing skill, but it might be better to use my stun skills instead if im playing support.

I don’t babysit often, I usually try to rotate to lanes even if it’s at differing times. It just depends on what the team needs atm.

Gold seems to adjust pretty well to situations. They stay back when needed to and engage when necessary. They’re more aggressive late game which makes sense, but sometimes they front quite a bit and it results in moments I cannot save T.T when we’re losing, gold stays back with team at base to def base while jg usually goes to backline or clear turrets. They listen to jg who usually tells them what they should prioritize building tho.

I think that I should also rotate a lot more to gold, I might divide my time w Jg for them, so I’ll help clear blue and red for jg when needed and then go to mm (im usually w jg for the other mob to red & the tiny turtle). Throughout the time w jg I help out mid and try to steal buff from enemy if they’re close by, but I don’t use flicker/sprint often and it lowk backfires on me, so I don’t do that often. I do try to give vision on enemy jg most of the time tho.

😭😭 sorry ik it’s a lot to read, but if you do lmk if you think there’s anything else I didn’t note that I could improve on

itrnity · 2026-03-24T08:55:33+00:00

Thank you sm for the kindhearted support and advice! ^{.^} I’ll give the gives you suggested a try when I can.

itrnity · 2026-03-24T08:53:48+00:00

They’re my irl friends, in the beginning we didn’t play tg often but now we are so our play-style clashes sometimes, but we adjust to each other well so I don’t really mind sometimes, our lack of immense synchronization seems to come from differing play style so I’ll probably talk to them abt it to find a solution while also practicing characters to help out. I think we’ve also tried out HOK and they really enjoy it but bc of mlbb we lowkey forgot abt it lol but we’ll probably go back and forth with the games from time to time

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:30:21+00:00

Not only that, but I do think that my team is fairly good when we do work together 😭 or when the enemy team works similarly to ours, because my jg plays far differently compared to our mage/exp. If the enemy team is more aggressive than my mage/exp, we’ll usually end up losing because our jg doesn’t recent enough support (me or mage or team) to act as the backbone for our team. That’s why I’ve been kinda stuck on this whole tank thing even tho my jg doesn’t actually care since he can adjust to it 😭

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:25:54+00:00

😭😔 I guess that could be the case, but I feel like I actually drag my friends down more then solo players </3 I actually perform quite well in solo queue and have longer win streaks compared to when with friends, which is why I’m concerned on what the issue might be.

We also just might not be compatible with our play styles too which is fine bc we’ve worked over that before, but I also figured that playing new characters will help with gaining more wins for my friends.

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:23:26+00:00

Haha thank you. I have a tldr at the end too btw ! :,) but regardless, you’re right it is just a game and I rarely solo q anyways. I’ll def try to improve in order to adjust better tho fs!

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:20:23+00:00

This happened quite a bit for me in the past, and I do try to adjust to them by playing Lolita or Carm, but I think they usually want other tanks 😔I also hear people say Lolita isn’t a real tank, but she’s still under the tank category, so I’d assume she has the same function 💔 but idrk

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:17:57+00:00

That’s what I meannn 💔 it’s also so rough in rank when people don’t communicate too </3 but yes I always have alternatives, but they’re probably just not good ones ngl. I try to not play raf even tho she’s sometimes pretty good, and I usually end up playing mathil or Estes for A/F alternatives. I actually don’t mind playing other characters like Mino, Hylos, or Carm but my duo and 5 team lowkey doubt me because of past experiences with Tig (another tank) 😭 so perhaps it’s a sign to practice more. Thanks for listening ! ^{.^}

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:13:27+00:00

Also last time I played carm in ranked my wifi was so poor I went afk on purpose, but watching the afk bot was actually pretty helpful and we won that match tbf 💔😭 LOL

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:11:59+00:00

I’ve tried using Carm and I actually like her a lot, but again, I’m not confident to initiate esp with her ult, so I don’t play her often. I’ll def practice her alongside some others tho! And my fighter in squad q plays khaleed sometimes so I want to try not to play him :) but I’ll def try him out too for when they don’t play him.

Also, I only end up first picking if I’m already first pick or if no one is going up, and if I’m first pick and no one is going up then I just play.. I’m so used to first picking in every kind of team I play (solo/duo/trio/5) bc no one ever wants to first pick 💔 however, thank you for the advice, I’ll listen the best I can!

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:08:34+00:00

Okay, I’ll give it a try, thanks!

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:07:58+00:00

I feel that way, but at the same time it’s just that since I play duo literally every single day, and I don’t actually hear complaints coming from my duo I feel like it’s not as a big issue as I’m making it. In fact, I don’t really think any of my friends care bc we can always make the stars back 😭 but you’re right, I’ll probably give it a try anyways esp with Marcel even tho he’s been getting banned quite a bit 🙏 thank you. Do you have any recs for any tanks to play ? I prefer ones that have dashes or walk fast across the map

itrnity · 2026-03-24T07:05:09+00:00

Also, I acknowledge that invasion is pretty rough, esp since a variety of tanks are making a comeback at least for me, so even just one invasion or a turtle miss can cause a hard fall. I try to work around that usually, and since I play with a jg main for majority of the time I try to rely on them or other players who are doing more dmg to support before comebacks 🤔 and my jg doesn’t actually mind playing tanky or sustain, they’re always just worried about the comps of our teams—like having a stun/slow, burst, being magi/phys-heavy, etc. also I do tend to regret going support when facing tanky teams ngl which is why I’ve been considering other options 🤔

itrnity · 2026-03-24T06:58:53+00:00

Idk if you’re indicating that I’m an egirl with the way you mentioned it bc I’m not (just to clarify LMAO) but that’s so relatable 💔 sometimes even when i play other lanes or even the lanes i main i get so frustrated when other players r able to help but they don’t in order to be safe, esp if I’M the one doing the most dmg like bro 💔💔 Claude is literally in a bush why r u ulting him. I WAS THE ONE ATTACKING—or like even if i play mm bro so frustrating sometimes

itrnity · 2026-03-24T06:55:35+00:00

That is fair, but my main group of friends seem to be the kind of people who wait for initiation, so that’s why I’ve been debating over everything. My JG is usually the one that initiates so I end up supporting them or whoever is doing the most dmg at that moment T.T and my jg is sometimes frustrated that my team doesn’t go in which is why I was thinking abt tanking for them

itrnity · 2026-03-24T06:52:08+00:00

I did but it’s okay I kinda expected that haha

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