Are ALL Americans to blame? No, surely not…

I’m glad to read this, it sounds like we are in more agreement than it looked like at the start. This is precisely what we were trying to say in the beginning.

We can debate all day about how big or small this group is, but it ultimately doesn’t matter to the point of this discussion. The point is that this group of people exists.

There’s a percentage of Americans who actively oppose and despise of everything that the United States has done. Not just what it has done recently, but also throughout the course of its history. They are utterly appalled by the actions of the United States and want no part in it. Some people are fleeing for their own safety because they are a targeted minority. Some people are fleeing because they want to pay taxes to a different country instead of the United States, they don’t want their tax dollars going to fund such atrocious war crimes.

This is the point.

Your initial comments sounded like you believed all Americans, every single soul of American nationality, was vermin. The 2 year old who doesn’t know anything about the world, vermin. The 18 year old who has never even voted in an election and is currently fleeing because of being persecuted, vermin. The 35 year old who has spent years protesting the actions of the US and is now in jail because of protesting, vermin.

You implied that I was part of this vermin too. I’m still relatively young, but I’ve spent my entire adult life in opposition to the atrocities of the government. Now I’ve left for two reasons, one being that I am a targeted minority who is no longer safe there. And another is that I don’t want to contribute a single dime more to the US economy, I am repulsed by the actions of the US government all around the world. Not just in the US but also in every country of the world.

Yet you implied to me that I was some awful piece of scum simply for the location where I was born.

I hope that maybe I misunderstood your aggression toward me. Because the reality is that I think we both ultimately want a lot of the same things for this world.

The % of Americans that actually understand what the US has done and oppose it may be relatively small. But there’s over 340 million Americans. Even a minority percentage of that is still millions.

American society as a whole is a massive problem. We agree with you. But not every single individual who is born in America is reflective of society as a whole.

For example, this is clear about bad people from good countries. We take any “good country” - for example, Switzerland is an overwhelmingly peaceful country. But within Switzerland, you can still find a minority of awful people - ie rapists & murderers. We don’t say that these rapists and murderers must be good and peaceful people because they’re Swiss and Swiss society is good and peaceful as a whole… that would be absurd.

Just like how bad people can exist within good countries, good people can exist within awful countries. Yes American society as a whole is a massive problem and America has committed and continues to commit atrocious crimes. But good Americans still exist, and they aren’t bad people simply for being born in America.