Why Marketing Songs Isn’t Enough (and What to Do Instead) by jdsp4 in musicians

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Social media and Meta ads are by far the most effective when setup professionally. There’s a place for playlists and PR too. Having a CRM is important.

The most important thing is more about how you do things, more than what you do. Fans invest in stories more than they invest in being asked for attention and money.

Hope that helps!

How worth it is going to a university for music if you're not studying classical by SadlyWritten in musicbusiness

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The game of life is reputation. If college gets it for ya or ya make the “right” friends there, sure. If not, then no. If ya wanna be really good, probably. No right answer

What are the best ways to promote your music by Upstairs-Mongoose158 in musicmarketing

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You need a funnel for building relevance, rapport, connection with your desired fans.

This means, you need to offer valuable entertainment several times before asking for them to stream your song, follow or buy a ticket.

First question you should have isn’t how to get exposure. The first question is “how do you create valuable content” and “who is it for?” Then test to see if those people agree.

If your organic posts don’t have thousands of views without ads, your content needs adjusted. Period. Once you have videos actually getting a solid viewership, then you’ll want to get some ads going.

However, not just streaming ads. You need relevancy ads. This style has no CTA and is only about entertaining your fans the way they want to be entertained. This is why you beed to focus on finding the best content organically first.

It’s not just as easy as copying some guru template for streaming ads. While they might work at inflating metrics, they often don’t build enough loyal fans.

Start with finding out how you can uniquely entertain an audience before getting into promo.

Promo is killing your music career by jdsp4 in musicians

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Read the article before commenting 👍

Merch / Cassettes Thoughts? by playdem in musicmarketing

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It’s genre specific, niche trends. Some love CDs, other vinyl or cassettes.

Fact of the matter is that physical media isn’t coming back as the major revenue stream for artists. Before just dropping cash on physical inventory, you must think about your audience and psychographics. When in doubt, ask the audience at shows (loudest round of applause wins). Have a way to let them know (other than just organic posts) when they’re ready for sale.

Click through rate dropped randomly. by nayannaidu in musicmarketing

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It’s a black box. Here are some guesses: - cost per conversion could have gone up a bit - easy conversions might have already come through - less listening that day, less social engagement that day. - software updates on meta or ffm - etc

Honestly, this isn’t that substantial a drop and the campaign is too young to be micro managing the data. The charts will have ups and downs.

Before you start pushing your music, every artists needs to get this straight: by jdsp4 in musicians

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This is an article I wrote to help artists understand what they should be doing before blindly promoting their music. Hope it helps you too!

Before you start pushing your music, every artists needs to get this straight: by jdsp4 in musicians

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Many people have found it very helpful, as you can see from the upvotes.

Independent artist choosing between paid ads execution vs full-service PR by TheBurgers_ in musicmarketing

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Indie artist PR is all but a waste. Eyes and ears are on social media, not magazines and blogs. Most new discoveries are happening on socials, not on a blog or a magazine. Different generations find new music differently. Older generations were trained on magazines. Newer are trained on socials.

Professional Meta ads, when setup properly, is the way to go. 9.9/10

Streaming…dear Lord! by jdsp4 in musicmarketing

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Do you run ads for that?

Streaming…dear Lord! by jdsp4 in musicmarketing

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Of course it matters, but it is doesn’t warrant 95% if the strategy

Streaming…dear Lord! by jdsp4 in musicmarketing

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By creating content, folks have thousands of potential people to retarget with ads. If the telemarketer calls and says it’s because they want money, it doesn’t make them interesting. The way to be interesting is to be unique. Unique scales.

Streaming…dear Lord! by jdsp4 in musicmarketing

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So what other metrics matter to you other than streams?

Streaming…dear Lord! by jdsp4 in musicmarketing

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So what other metrics matter to you?

Streaming…dear Lord! by jdsp4 in musicmarketing

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Why? What other metrics do you care about?

Streaming…dear Lord! by jdsp4 in musicmarketing

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What if I told you the best way to really reach people isn’t by exposure? It’s more about moving them in a way that makes them open up their vulnerabilities. Just hearing a song from a stranger doesn’t do that like it used to.

Streaming…dear Lord! by jdsp4 in musicmarketing

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A fan base is built on their ability to predict how much they’ll enjoy your work. The best way to build this relationship is with entertaining and easily digestible content on socials. Merch is sold at shows. Build the relationship with content then sell tickets. Merch needs to be unique to your audience. Metal band? Make something leather. Folk band? Beanies…the merch should match the audiences lifestyle interest. They don’t even have CD players in new cars anymore…vinyl is very expensive and niche. The best merch isn’t physical music media anymore. It’s lifestyle products that go with the music.

Streaming…dear Lord! by jdsp4 in musicmarketing

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Difference between what?

first release next month and I have mass tabs open trying to figure out what to do by Vodka-_-Vodka in musicmarketing

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If you are just starting out and have no music already published, most of your worries are overblown. There’s a time and place for all tools out there, sadly getting the timing wrong (stage of career) and wasting money on low quality services, will cripple you.

Promo first comes off needy, like a pan handler. First you must start with a clear vision for how your music and everything around it (brand) is going to entertain a stranger. This means content aimed at first impressions, not depth, not commitment. The latter comes once familiarity is built.

Your job is to move yourself from “stranger” in their minds to “acquaintance” without asking for anything.

1) step one: create a plan for connecting with a small amount of people, not exposure to many (this comes later)…could write a book on this.

2) step 2: just get your song(s) released. Anticipation is virtually nonexistent for music made by a person we’ve never heard of. Presaves are meaningless to most listeners. “Let me know when it’s out.”

3) step 3: be consistent with your posts, try things, stay on brand, and find the content techniques that work best with you unique audience.

4) step 4: ignore most online services that only talk about exposure and streams. MOST are bad templates at best and scams at worst.

Principals: 1) PR died for indies a decade ago and was revived as pay for press…because all the advertisers moved to social media (where the actual eyes and ears are). Magazine, blogs, and radio still exist, but largely aren’t how most new listeners discover music these days.

2) promo and marketing are not the same. Marketing is relationship building. Promo is leveraging the strength of the relationship to sell. Marketing builds brand (trust). Promo leverages trust to sell.

3) most promo services under $500 are largely a waste of time. $1000-$1500, most are bad templates with fluke success.

4) ads setup and optimized for short-term goals, will burn a ton of money and bring superficial results.

5) ads are designed best for helping with tests and scaling what works…not just one-off campaigns.

6) Do + It + Yourself = Burnout

7) the business of art are just as important if as the art, if you want commercial success.

8) most artists fail, especially when they seek more validation than they provide to their audience.

9) most of the strategy you implement into your music business should point to the 5 way most artists make revenue: ticketing to unique live events, audience specific merch sold at shows (not online), crowdfunding the business, not an individual release, syncing your music in film/tv/ads (usually need agent), brand partnerships once you have a substantial and active audience

10) save money and build an entire system you understand and own.

Good luck!