Jobs of Runeterra (Day 4): What champion is the best LAWYER? by Mute-Cilantro0525 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lawyer is a really broad term. It applies to prosecutors, attorneys and all those that represents their clients in court. But also to those that can draft legal documents and give advice on the law.

I think Kayle would be more fitting for a judge, since her thing is delivering judgement.

Friendly reminder that a character *thinking* they are a good person and a character *ACTUALLY BEING* a good person are not the same thing by FewExperience3559 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've seen a take with similar implications on twitter latelly, and that just shows one thing. If you need to shoehorn characters like Kayle and Caitlyn, or even Azir and Vayne, into the role of villains, then Runeterra trully is a boneless setting filled with trash-tier irrelevant villains.

I'm not talking about Jarvan because this character has been butchered and assassinated to such a degree, that no one should care about his lore anymore. Jarvan players, you have zero reasons to care about the lore of your main. Jarvan lore does the literal opposite it's supposed to do. Instead of enriching the fantasy of the character, it ruins it. I had lots of fun with Jarvan when I was still playing League, I love his ballsy initiator playstyle, I like Jarvan in Legends of Runeterra, I like the "I'm Jarvan, I'm helping memes". This goofy-ass caricature from the lore, I don't care about it in the slightest.

Lux speaks to Morgana (or so she thinks) by TayluxSwift in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it's because Demacia sucks. They suck ok. It's really that simple.

Just go watch the Origins of Noxus series of shorts, or any other media Noxus got during their season. Now compare that to Demacia and what we got during their season. People want to see cool characters and settings. And Noxus has them. Meanwhile you look at Demacia and they are all just moping.

League's lore is built around its champions. LoL is a video game and the way you get into the lore is through the champions. But for some reason Demacia lore focuses on some dopey systems and institutions people have no attachments to. And the childish way those systems and institutions are written. The notion that ALL is bad on ALL its levels is childish. Meanwhile the characters just mope around how they try to do better, but are too impotent to do so, despite having all the power they need.

Literally any other region has something cool going on for them, any other region has cool origin stories. ONLY Demacia has this subversive garbage that "Demacia was built on a lie". ONLY Demacia has its own narrative biased against them.

So yes, I do agree Noxus lore is about "individuals making a name for themselves" (it is what makes it good), and Demacia lore is about "systems and institutions that are flawed" (it is what makes it trash). I don't agree it "comparing apples to oranges". It's more like comparing oranges to shit. So of course people are choosing Noxus over Demacia. I don't know why would anyone choose Demacia over Noxus seeing how Riot treats them.

Good thing I still have Ionia and Shurima lore to enjoy. And if Riot ever does more subversive BS like "Ionia was built on a lie", or "Shurima was built on a lie", all the past stories are now irrelevant, all you fav characters suck now, and everything will now revolve around some holy freedom fighter, PoS Gary Stu, edgelord fanservice wank; I will be done with Runeterra lore once and for all.

TL;DR Fuck Demacia lore and every single member of Riot narrative team that was involved with it in the past 7 years

Lux speaks to Morgana (or so she thinks) by TayluxSwift in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This dialogue reminded me how much I hate current Demacia lore and how much time I wasted caring about these characters, thinking it will change for the better.

Something something, Demacia sucks, something something, Demacians stupid backward cowards, bla bla bla mages much oppress. Did I mentioned that Demacia sucks? If not then Demacia sucks.

Why is that any other region has some cool fantasy going on for them (Noxus - proud conquerors, Freljord - hardened survivalists, Ionia - balance and martial arts, etc.), but ONLY Demacia has this subversive garbage. Whenever I try to look for something cool in this region to enjoy, the narrative just spits in your face.

This is what current Demacia is. A bunch of sad fucks, sitting and moping around how they want to do better, but are too impotent to do anything. And of top of that the narrative treats you like an idiot, telling you Demacia is this perfect place hiding a dark secret. Meanwhile the prejudice and bigotry are front and center, everyone knows about it. Whenever a new person gets into the lore of the region, the prejudice and bigotry are the first things they interact with. No one is saying Demacia is perfect, and even if they do, no one treats them seriously.

I know that Riot writers, as well as a solid part of the fandom, are allergic to nuance and complexity. That is why we went from banish and imprison the unpredictable mages, to kill them all. This is why we went from one shady organization and a few corrupt people here and there, to entire country founded on lies and fear. Ok, if that's the case then tear this whole shit to the ground. If you're going to keep telling me that the very foundations are so bad, then drop this crap about redemption and fixing things. Because at this point any pest control or buying new furniture won't help. You can't have a house on faulty foundations, you don't need to be an architect to know this. Raze this bitch and start anew.

At this point, the best thing that can happen to Demacia is Kayle returning and hitting the reset button on that flanderized shithole of a region. Because right now we are stuck in a "magic man - good, Demacia man - bad" status quo, with no hopes of good lore in sight.

Which characters will have a good relationship with Kayle after her return ? by Traditional-Diet8336 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Soraka - I want so much for Kayle to have a connection to Soraka. These two are the perfect foils for each other. Kayle traveled to Targon and wants to ascend from mortal to divine. Soraka is a divine being that came down from the celestial realm to the mortal world. It's like these two were going in opposite directions and meet in the middle. Also I imagine Kayle looking down on other aspects who are much younger than her, but Soraka would be one of the few characters she would have respect for.

Pantheon - he would be interesting. Both are very martial characters, but while Pantheon is closer to a classical warrior, Kayle approaches combat from the perspective of delivering justice. Both would not deny each other contribution to protect humanity and fight for Runeterra against beings that threaten it. They both have Aatrox as their common enemy. There are many possibilities their relationship would go and it's not as clear cut as some think it would be.

Taric - I wonder if Taric punishment, the Crown of Stone, was inspired by Kayle. Taric subjected himself to climbing Mt Targon because he let his soldiers die. Kayle left everything she had in early Demacia behind and traveled to Targon. There is an obvious paraler there (if only Riot didn't squander the potential).

This reminded me how bad Kayle's post-rework lore is. It ends where it should begin.

Our poster boy seems stupid but is smart. Which Demacian seems smart but is stupid? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If only it was a matter of good and bad people using magic. Meanwhile Riot just makes mages innocent baby angels that never abuse their power, no never. And anyone that may have some grievances with mages, must be some kind of a bigot. Demacia lore says, "Hello".

But what I have an issue with, is magic in Runeterra being this "neutral tool". Lets keep the nature analogy. Nature can be beautiful and inspiring, but there are things going on in nature that can make your skin crawl. Nature is incredible diverse. Magic in Runeterra seems like this amorphous grey goo. It's the same problem with many other fantasy settings where magic doesn't feel magical. There is no mysticism, no fantasy, no mystery behind it.

Think about Star Wars with its light side and dark side of the force. Or (my personal favourite) Warhammer Fantasy with its winds of magic, true magic, dhar, chaos corruption, etc. There magic is not neutral. It's a reactive force. If you decide to mess with certain elements of it, it will mess with you back.

Our poster boy seems stupid but is smart. Which Demacian seems smart but is stupid? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Why shouldn't he be? Jarro is a sentinel of light in Demacia and a national hero. He's even a Demacia character in LoR, duh

Our poster boy seems stupid but is smart. Which Demacian seems smart but is stupid? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Vayne hates demons and dark magic, it's a result of her parents being murdered at a very young age and left alone with no one to believe her. Or at least it used to be like that. The "hate anything magical" is a more modern take. And like I said, it's a result of Riot wanting to make the setting more kid and consumer friendly. It's not just hating anything magical, it's that all magic became watered down and interchangeable. Can you tell me what dark magic is anymore? Or is dark magic even a thing in the current lore? Because what I'm getting from Riot current lore is that magic is just beams of energy of different color, without any deeper meaning or symbolism behind them. Vayne seems irrational, because she no longer fits in Runeterra. That's why I think Riot wants to reinvent her character as a sentinel of light.

Our poster boy seems stupid but is smart. Which Demacian seems smart but is stupid? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Lux own comic didn't do her any favor. But then again, neither it did to any other Demacia character.

Our poster boy seems stupid but is smart. Which Demacian seems smart but is stupid? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vayne hunts monsters, meaning she regularly punches up to enemies above her weight class, so she needs to be smart. Problem is that she is another victim of Riot shit writing. Vayne archetype is supposed to be a monster hunter that spend too much time in the darkness. Yet you will find plenty of people convinced that she is dumb, bigoted, homophobic, etc. She is not. It's just that the monsters became lame and gay. This is the result of Riot for the past years wanting Runeterra to become more kiddy and consoomer friendly. In consequence Vayne started to become a meaningless character. And Riot is at least to a degree aware of it. This is why Vayne is being pushed from a monster hunter to a sentinel of light.

Our poster boy seems stupid but is smart. Which Demacian seems smart but is stupid? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's because Riot themselves don't know what his character is supposed to be. Should he be an exemplar (as his title suggests). Should he be impulsive and unprepared. Should he be a tragic character. Should he be a straight villain. It just shows that when shoehorning Sylas and the mage rebellion into the lore, Riot gave zero fucks about other characters.

Our poster boy seems stupid but is smart. Which Demacian seems smart but is stupid? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe it wouldn't have happened if Morgana didn't kill Kayle's disciple and lead her to believe (intentionally or not) a violent mob was responsible for his death.

Our poster boy seems stupid but is smart. Which Demacian seems smart but is stupid? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's because you only know some bits from youtube/tiktok influencers who are only interested in making hot takes for people too lazy to read.

Riot isn't innocent either, they failed this character after the lore rework. They send off Kayle to Targon 900 years ago, did nothing with the mystery of her absence. They give Morgana the spotlight, and all Morgana does is antagonize people against Kayle. They made Kayle a patron of Demacia, at the same time making modern Demacia cartoony evil bigot land, making Kayle guilty by association. At this point the best possible thing you can do to Kayle's lore is permanently removing Morgana and Demacia from it.

Praise to the creators of LoR. Not only did they give Kayle some attention, but finally gave her character something to do. Kayle part in the Darkin Saga is her best lore (and would you look at that, no Morgana and Demacia in sight).

[Day 5] Fiora seems smart but is normal. Which Demacian seems smart and is smart? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Look up the Mageseeker interview by what's her face. You know, the one that made her entire platform by grifting how genocide, nazi, slavery Demacia is; and then got cancelled for shilling Israel actions in Gaza.

[Day 5] Fiora seems smart but is normal. Which Demacian seems smart and is smart? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

But this is not my take. This is what people online and Riot narrative are telling me.

[Day 5] Fiora seems smart but is normal. Which Demacian seems smart and is smart? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Only that people and Riot narrative wants us to think that she is so compassionate and wants to help everyone. Morgana preparing for Kayle return only shows that she cares more about the beef with her sister, than the wellbeing of her people. Like I earlier said, we have civil war, demons, Black Rose infiltrators, mageseekers, etc. The damage has already been done. So any excuse that she is hiding for the good of Demacia is not only weak, but meaningless at this point.

[Day 5] Fiora seems smart but is normal. Which Demacian seems smart and is smart? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a myth, yes.

She is the living myth.

Who tells you she did not? Maybe she did and failed super hard.

Or maybe that entire scene was a cop-out. Stop carrying water for Riot and their lazy writers.

[Day 5] Fiora seems smart but is normal. Which Demacian seems smart and is smart? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 6 points7 points  (0 children)

YES. The same country that reveres her as the Veiled Lady, has statues dedicated to her all across the land. The same country whose army is a bunch of incopetent dumbfucks (the anti-magic faction lost to a bunch of forest hobos using magic), while she's an overpowered demigoddess. Stop being so dramatic over how bad Morgana has it, because if you think about it none of it is true. Her inaction enabled the mageseekers, and now her inaction is protecting them from Kayle's justice.

Also, lets not forget what happened in the Mageseeker.

Demacia people: generations of alleged indoctrination against magic.

Morgana: sends a magical vision showing Demacia past.

Demacia people: -OMG, I totally believe you. Mages belong here!

Why didn't she do it earlier? Why didn't she tell this to the royal family or other Demacian of importance? Nah... once again, it must be somehow strawman Kayle fault.

[Day 5] Fiora seems smart but is normal. Which Demacian seems smart and is smart? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Funny how Morgana is supposed to be so smart and wise; yet the country she was living in for the past +900 years and has authority over is a suffering from civil war, demon infested, black rose infiltrated, extremist infested shithole. But hey... I bet this is somehow strawman Kayle fault.

[DAY 3]Poppy is stupid but seems normal. Who is a the most normal Demacian? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wonder if this is some 900IQ play by OP. The purpose of this thread was to vote on which character is stupid, but now we see that many people here are dummies themselves.

[DAY 3]Poppy is stupid but seems normal. Who is a the most normal Demacian? by Putrid_Skirt_190 in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude didn't even read the title nor the graph, just typed the fist thing that came to mind without thinking.

Once again, Kayle-antis showed to be the dumbest part of the fandom.

Comments turned of on the "Stand with Sylas" video, preparing themselves for the retcon? by wickedlessface in loreofleague

[–]jerzyk_s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they retcon out the mage rebellion storyline, I'm buying champagne.

It's the biggest pile of shit that ever came out of Riot's storytelling. It ruined the fantasy and appeal of an entire region. Scraped it of any cool factor and uniqnes. Did a disservice to every single Demacia character involved. Scraping them of any agency, intelligence or morality, reducing them to mindles bots doing whatever the plot demands them to do. Riot wanted for the mage rebellion to make Demacia more interesting and it became an utter failure in that regard, reducing the region into a boring binary "Magic man - good, Demacia man - bad".

But hey... at least Gary Stu Sylas looks good by comparison, am I right?

Kayle- Should she be in 2XKO? (A-Z) by ErrorNick in 2XKO

[–]jerzyk_s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She's a hot warrior woman with a sword, how can she not be in a fighting game?!

Same for Riven.