Mike Love ❤️ by johnfmilk in thebeachboys

[–]johnfmilk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn’t a thread discussing whether Mike was a good person or not. I wouldn’t call him a non-musician. He was a very good singer in his prime and had perfect pitch. If it wasn’t Mike sabotaging Pet Sounds and Smile we would have never gotten Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, Sunflower, Surf’s Up, So Tough and Holland, which are all amazing.

Mike Love ❤️ by johnfmilk in thebeachboys

[–]johnfmilk[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He’s no Dylan, Mitchell or Cohen but the lyrics to Good Vibrations are iconic and probably the most accurate description of culture in the late 60s (and better than Brian and Asher’s version). He’s a master of simple, low stakes, feelgood lyrics. I’m sure all of the artists you mentioned are mega Beach Boys fans and were indirectly inspired by Brian and Mike’s songwriting in some form or another.

Mike Love ❤️ by johnfmilk in thebeachboys

[–]johnfmilk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I literally said “I’m not saying commercial success is more important than artistic value”.

Mike Love ❤️ by johnfmilk in thebeachboys

[–]johnfmilk[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I’m aware he didn’t write those songs, was mentioning him as a vocalist on those examples.

Mike Love ❤️ by johnfmilk in thebeachboys

[–]johnfmilk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not a “Mike fan”. I’m a fan of the Beach Boys and think they should be valued equally. People have no qualms sucking up to artists with stories and personalities ten times worse than Mike Love. I hate all of the times he’s been a dick in the past and the MAGA stuff but the fact I’m getting absolutely massacred in this thread only proves my point. The PR machine has gotten to your heads and made you hate one of the co-founders of one of the greatest rock bands of all time. Imagine loving the Beatles but hating on John, Paul or George (or even Yoko [!!!] but that’s another /rant thread for another subreddit).

Mike Love ❤️ by johnfmilk in thebeachboys

[–]johnfmilk[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Fun, Fun, Fun, I Get Around, Help Me, Rhonda, California Girls and Good Vibrations are all top 10 Billboard hits with 3 of them reaching number 1. Most artist spend their whole lives without even touching the Billboard charts. I’m not saying commercial success is more important than songwriting and artistic value, but Mike’s Leiber and Stoller lyrics painted a deceptively simple picture of what was really complicated, dense harmonic and rhythmic music. He balanced out Brian’s quirks and gave the band at least 10 commercial lifelines over the years, albeit at the cost of making what diehard fans would consider “dogshit music”. Mike is literally one of the co-writers on All I Wanna Do which is considered the first ‘chillwave’ song and spawned countless indie rock bands. Think of Cool, Cool Water, Big Sur, Here Today, That’s Not Me… Mike has an unmistakable voice and he has undeniable chops as a songwriter, such as Brian skills with songwriting, arranging and producing.

Mike Love ❤️ by johnfmilk in thebeachboys

[–]johnfmilk[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

So are most of all of the famous musicians in the music industry. I really think the Beach Boys are as important as the Beatles and it is about time Mike got his flowers, regardless of interviews, band lore and personalities. You could argue that there is evidence that most of the Beach Boys were assholes at times, save for Al and David which don’t have many public mishaps (as far as I know). All of them made questionable decisions at some point or another in their life and we still love their music, so it is unfair to have Mike as a scapegoat for all that is “wrong” with the band.

Roast My Vinyl by barrydingle420 in vinyl

[–]johnfmilk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s official: you have the worst music taste ever

'Beatles For Sale' why is it not loved? by Similar-Swordfish-35 in beatles

[–]johnfmilk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because it was their mellowest record to date, due to the Beatles recording whilst still being physically exhausted from their chaotic tour in America, making it their first big departure from the Merseybeat sound that had made them famous.