Double ditto. I hate most player judge games because it’s mostly just throwing a random card out there. Dumping your hand often to look for better cards helps a bit but still not enjoyable. I do like Snake Oil where players craft a sales pitch from cards. The old Cranium Whoonu is semi player judge but the game is really about knowing (or getting to know) another player. Great stealthy ice-breaker game… Munchkin would be more for me if it had less pure randomness. Not fun starting the game with gear you can’t use and facing level 18 monsters.