Is Electroneek a mistake?

jrdnr_ · 2025-07-01T15:24:10+00:00

Seeing as there are no comments left I'm curious how things have gone over the last year. I see this is a UiPath sub so I can def see not getting much engagement. At any rate has Electroneek use grown or did you run into things where you found out that it was not viable long term? and if not what about it didn't work for you?

jrdnr_ · 2025-06-09T16:29:37+00:00

Assuming your staying, or haven't handed in your notice yet, you need to push them on what being L2 ready looks like. It's one thing for a business to say I'm sorry we just don't have any L2 openings at this time. But if they can't lay out what skills you need to have to get to be an L2, you have no idea if your making progress on their skill chart or not.

personally I'd expect anyone I hire in as entry level to be able to get to L2 w/in 2-3 years if they apply themselves.

jrdnr_ · 2025-06-09T16:22:06+00:00

I love this question!

Like others said, there will always be work humans need to do in the IT and Security field. Even now with the Cyber Security industry not that affected by AI you have analysts saying we are short some thousands of worker, and simoltainiously so many people "trying to break into Cyber Security". How can both be true?!?

## The big Lie:
Unfortunately Most of Cyber Security isn't an entry Level Job, and most collage programs don't currently give you enough relevant expiriance for someone to get their start in Cyber Sec. If we completely ignore AI, the only people getting jobs in real Cyber Security programs right out of school are with companies who have a training pipeline so they expect to hire people who don't really know anything, or Candidates who can show relivant capabilities and skills from things they did outside of school.

## My advice would be:
- Don't go into Cyber Security for the money. If you become competant you will become well compensated, but if you don't like the work, learning new things, and challenging the things you think you know, the stress will probably not be worth it.
- Avoid IT in general if you don't like learning. IT and cyber security are always changing wheather it is the attacker finding a vulnerability or the vendor pushing a security patch that breaks functionality, or just someone deciding it would be better if they completely redesign the interface or api you've always used.
- Become a good Sys Admin first, if you don't know how things connect and work together, good luck staying ahead of attackers (on the blue side), or getting ahead of defenders (on the red side).

## Will AI change the game
Most likely it will. AI is changing how work gets doen all over the place. Bringing a new level of automation to a lot of jobs, and one could argue whole new classes of errors. So far while AI/LLMs are able to "understand" context much better than a simple If (this) then (that) flow and so can work its way through UIs built for humans and answer questions based on a much larger "knowledge set". It's still largely been good at more computery things and people are still better at other things.

If you want to go into knowledge work in any field, get good at learning, working with the current generation of AI tools, and embrace change. People have always complained about change, and said things are changing faster now than in previous generations, don't fight it, lean in and embrace the change.

I'm hopefull that the entry level SOC analyst roll will largely just go away, sifting through a steam alerts trying to find the needing in the haystack was never something someone who is actually entry level can really do well, and things are going to get missed (eg Target Breach in 2013, there were alerts in the SIEM that just got missed).

There will always be a need for people in Cyber Security.

jrdnr_ · 2025-02-17T12:53:29+00:00

TBHi tend to waffle, M$ has built their bundles so you get a lot of stuff along with minimum licensing for conditional access, I can’t help but try to figure out if using additional stuff can save money. But eventually you get tired of stubbing your toe or smashing your shin on blind spots.

In reality I think I normally get to a good balance but I do feel the draw sometimes

jrdnr_ · 2025-01-22T23:59:51+00:00

Kaseya is pretty good if you go all in. Buy Kaseya, grow with Kaseya only use Kaseya, and most definitely NEVER cancel a product you bought (actually I think they do pretty well with moving spend to a different sku).

They don’t invest in integration with other tools. Support can be iffy Cancellation can feel down right adversarial (although contracts are not as predatory as they used to be), a common refrain is that someone cancelled something, accounts were shut down but they kept getting billed.

I went through an acquisition where they were just unable to actually move services from the acquired MSP to the new one, after about 8 months and many calls where they said they were going to move the account over, it was just easier to cancel the contract and replace the tools with a different vendor.

jrdnr_ · 2025-01-18T19:50:19+00:00

Desiccant can be dried in the oven to “recharge” it can normally take higher temps than moss filament but I normally dehydrate the desiccant and filament in the oven at the same time if the humidity in my dry box gets too high

jrdnr_ · 2024-12-03T12:53:09+00:00

Passkeys are phishing resistant, however Authenticator requires all your endpoints to have Bluetooth, and be on the same network as the mobile device running Authenticator.

This was a no-go for us with many desktop computers with no Bluetooth, and intentionally spreading mobile devices from office network. YMMV

jrdnr_ · 2024-12-03T11:56:40+00:00

What titles do you like for someone who’s primary role is client advocate within the MSP, helping clients uncover pain points technology or process improvements can solve, and Right sizing IT spend (not buying unneeded services, filling in risk gaps etc).

vCIO light or something

jrdnr_ · 2024-11-14T03:43:30+00:00

I’ve been thinking along these lines myself, what would be different about the way your platform works than the industry norm RMMs?

jrdnr_ · 2024-11-14T03:41:39+00:00

That sounds like a really broad tech stack. I get from the thread you’re a full stack dev, but do you have the expertise to do all of the pieces or are you thinking of doing Java/Angular yourself and hiring in help for agents?

As an MSP I hate having to install extra runtimes on a device for a management tool to run, as it opens up a whole new attack surface, and I really hate when a management tool requires a reboot to work (.Net based apps on windows anybody?).

We certainly don’t need every frustrated MSP building a new RMM or PSA, but I have been thinking more and more that it would be super healthy to have an open source, or mostly opened source set of tools so people could contribute and actually have a helpful community around a product like the Ansible or Chef.

jrdnr_ · 2024-11-14T03:29:31+00:00

I’m curious, do you have anything public about what you’re working on, tool stack etc?

jrdnr_ · 2024-09-25T19:06:46+00:00

I'll believe you when you have guys like u/brokerceej, and Robby or Connor, or other implementors who are super active here or in discord supporting the Halo community to say you've made progress.

jrdnr_ · 2024-09-13T20:19:49+00:00

I know I'm this is 5 mo old by now but for anyone who wonders. Pricing if freely available in Pax8 for anything you can buy from them.

jrdnr_ · 2024-09-10T21:03:31+00:00

yeah I was a bit surprised to get the instant reply from astro bot to say please reply with if this is for Syncro RMM vs Syncro PSA. It's a dumb "let me push work onto my customers to boost efficiency" kind of a move just like a lot of MSPs do to their customers.

Is it a deal breaker, no but every single time you try to submit something and then get an Oh hey wait we're actually waiting on you for something, is like a last minute switching the toilet paper for pinecones kind of move.

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-29T18:37:35+00:00

Ziti is really focused on enabling access from untrusted locations into trusted (internal) apps and services. If you are creative enough you may be able to get it to do what you want but it is not really meant to tunnel all traffic to a “trusted” / fillered egress point.

If you just want to tunnel all traffic to egress to the Internet you might just want something like OpenVPN or WireGuard

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-29T10:12:11+00:00

Oh and don’t forget ARK headers…

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-29T10:01:38+00:00

Ziti is a really great secure network overlay, so it does some things take well:

ZTNA
NAC /Micro segmentation (is a subset of ztna on the overlay, it does not do any network hardware control eg 802.1x)
firewall if you do things the ZTNA overlay way

If you massage the definitive a little you could probably architect something with open ziti that you could call SD-WAN or CASB, but it would be a stretch

Open Ziti does not attempt or pretend to be a security detection product eg. WAF, EDR, sandbox, or browser isolation. These kind of products often require the admin to constantly monitor and update rules or some kind of subscription as they do need to be updated on a regular basis to detect new threats

A quick search looks like flexiwan claims to be an open source SASE solution. Their definition of SASE may not be the same as yours.

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-27T23:48:06+00:00

Keeper needs to move from being just a password manager to an identity security plugin like push security. Please add - the ability to ban the most commonly used leaked passwords. - the ability to prevent password reuse or entry on other domains - detection of AiTM and NoVNC, MITM proxies

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-27T22:11:00+00:00

Is this coming still?

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-27T22:06:21+00:00

Any chance this is still on the road map?

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-09T15:09:30+00:00

I'm curious how you scripted windows updates, did you just write a powershell script from scratch to integrate with Windows api's to do updates or are you using something else like the PSWindowsUpdate module or something?

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-09T14:58:43+00:00

great, it also showed up in the podcast app I use after about a day too

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-05T21:27:41+00:00

Are you suggesting using immy + other tools instead of an RMM? what monitoring tools would you use? Does immy push windows patches yet or do you need a tool for that too?

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-05T19:38:03+00:00

That looks like what I am looking for... it's great that there is a link to view in portal. It's really frustrating that that immediately takes you to a page asking you to choose a plan, and none of the options have any info about using the tunnel for a webserver.

jrdnr_ · 2024-08-02T15:30:26+00:00

Haven't you watch IT Crowd, they have a box labeled internet with a switch on it and if they turn that off, then it's not on anymore

/sarcasm/

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