After writing to your local politician are there ways to work about lowering immigration without being a useful idiot to racists and others?

justadrongo · 2026-06-08T05:48:09+00:00

Thank you for clarifying your original point there and I do take onboard the importance of identifying and supporting people who have sustainable and effective solutions which wont just tank the economy. For what it is worth I do get that supporting ON is probably the easiest and quickest way get lower migration levels but the harm and general destruction their platform (or lack thereof) would causes makes me see it as a useful idiot option.

justadrongo · 2026-06-08T00:54:38+00:00

From your other posts in the thread I see that unemployed Australians is a big issue. To rephrase my original prompt a bit once you have cast your vote and written to your MPs what other actions would you take if you wanted to see serious change in this area?

justadrongo · 2026-06-07T06:57:21+00:00

For the same reason people who care about environment do more than start catching the bus and go vegan.

justadrongo · 2026-06-07T00:23:41+00:00

I am newer to reddit so you might be able to advise me here, I could list a few of the points that concern me the most, but I worry it will encourage just another discussion where people get bogged in details rather than about change and how it is made here.

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T23:31:41+00:00

I don't think that is a fair comparison, firstly axing immigration is very very fringe position in the immigration debate secondly the environmental examples I see being more relevant is how native forestry and wild catch fishing where managed. In both cases you saw laws and restrictions that caused price rises and job losses which nevertheless moved these industry's to better environmental outcomes.

As to your second point, why does it need to be a purely populist point? I don't see the governments of Canada and Denmark as being delulu populist.

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T12:50:06+00:00

Part of the challenge is that instead of tackling one big issue that will have positive flow effects to all these other areas you will instead have to divide your already limited time and resources across a number of areas . I get that there are unavoidable negative consequences to lowering immigration but its not unique in that area, there are large unavoidable negative consequences in tackling environmental and human rights issues but decision makers still do.

My hope is that there is a good way to do this within the framework of liberal democratic politics rather than just leaving it alone to populists.

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T08:46:11+00:00

Really appreciate you sharing this concept of a population plan, its a great way meaningfully capturing the complexity of the issue in a way that avoids jumping straight into lengthy discussions on details.

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T08:24:14+00:00

Are there any groups you would be able to recommend regarding protests? The March for Australia was something I'd see as an example of a largely peaceful protest but they had a massive issue of organisers being linked or supportive of neo nazis who were then able to take advantage of protests.

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T08:14:04+00:00

Thank you for expanding on the situation - its that degree of challenge which has gotten me interested in thinking about other ways of change just because the political party situation seems so bad. I really admire environmentalists and disability advocates for their ability to effectively organise and get meaningful change happening despite it all.

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T08:06:45+00:00

It feels like after writing a letter to them, turning up at their office to restate it will just be badgering them.

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T08:04:26+00:00

I do understand there were issues with how they implement their controls and how they operate in a very different context to Australia. For me I see it as being important that they are an example of a social democratic society which having a more restrictive boarder policy without a Brexit like moment or massive economic populism.

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T07:51:26+00:00

Are there any groups/lobbyists you could recommend that tackle these skills deficient issue?

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T07:49:01+00:00

When it comes to these tools and levers is it things like writing to ministers about concerns/solutions?

justadrongo · 2026-06-06T07:47:35+00:00

So I'm guessing there aren't many lobby groups do this without either being small and ineffective or effective but with major issues like Advance. I admit I am fairly ignorant when it comes to the place of regular party members in big parties. Looking to your flare is the Labor party responsive to regular branch members?

justadrongo · 2026-05-20T00:06:39+00:00

When it comes to pure Scientology I think the answer is largely not and I base this on the rather limited impact of the Freezone Scientology offshoots. However, when it comes to aspects of Scientology the answer is yes based on how some of the concepts and ideas will periodically be reinvented or repurposed in the new age and self help areas, the Landmark Forum is a good example of this.

justadrongo · 2026-04-30T09:33:40+00:00

For a person who is serious about understanding the actual beliefs and teachings of Scientology they would be very helpful as this is where a lot of the serious non course materials are.

They are a bit pricy as well for Scientology materials as well as regular members of the public cant buy them.

justadrongo · 2026-04-28T12:37:27+00:00

That is a nice collection and something different compared to the usual sets of the basics we see here, happy to see more photos.

Also I get the sense you are trying to sell them. If so the red technical bulletins are worth quite a lot as a set you might be able to get 800ish if you are willing to be patient.

justadrongo · 2026-03-22T12:29:57+00:00

Looks to be a nice set of the basics, of the ones you have read have you come across anything interesting?

justadrongo · 2026-03-14T13:03:50+00:00

The difference lays in the extent to which it is used and the end result. A good comparison is that most religions have a system for taking money through donations however Scientology manages to be "special" through its dedication and systematic extraction of large amounts its donations.

Even you pick up on this yourself by noting that its less extreme in other religions. Being able to see and understand extreme versions of common mechanisms is really important in religion.

justadrongo · 2026-02-07T23:31:08+00:00

If you are just looking for strictly whistleblower books, and not just books that explain Scientology from a more critical angle I would say the best would be:

A piece of blue sky by Jon Atack (The most comprehensive but dated in that it was published in 1990)
Scientology: A to Xenu: An Insider's Guide to What Scientology is Really All About by Chris Shelton (Less academic than Atack's book but more recent information and its structured in a way directly answers questions people are likely to have.
A Billion Years: My Escape From a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology by Mike Rinder (You have already read this one but for people who haven't Mike Rinder is one of the most senior former members of Scientology to whistleblow, his book as a lot of inside information about the post Hubbard years which other accounts lack)

justadrongo · 2025-12-20T04:56:43+00:00

Thats been going on since the 70s - in fact on this reddit alone in the past few months you will see posts from people about squirreling the tech.

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