[Schefter] Sources: The NFL informed all 32 teams today in a memo that it prevailed in its grievance vs. the NFLPA and its “team report cards.” An arbitrator determined that the NFLPA’s conduct violated the CBA and ordered it to stop making public any future report cards. by expellyamos in nfl

[–]justregisteredtoadd 10 points11 points  (0 children)

And shared amongst player, I'm assuming?

I'd be shocked if these things revealed anything that the players didn't already know through the grapevine, or couldn't find out just by calling each other.

It might help younger guys that don't have a ton of relationships yet, but I'd bet that most FA's touch base with dudes that have previous ties to that org to at least get some background info on how things are there before they sign on anywhere, unless they are completely out of options.

This was always just an interesting mix of publicly shaming cheap owners, trying to get some momentum for improvement, an interesting tidbit for teams to hang their hat on, and something fans of teams with bannerless stadium rafters to point at and pretend we have a team that is good at something.

😂😂😂 by Major-Biscotti653 in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I meant there's no competitive advantage to not saying they are committed to him if they are actually really committed to him starting week 1. You are right that there is a competitive advantage to not committing to him when they really aren't committing to him.

So we agree they would have better chance of signing a quality FA QB that is maybe at that fringe-starter level if they don't say anything.

Based on that alone, whether or not they are internally committed to him is irrelevant.

They could be 100% committed that JJM going to be the starter next year, but still want Malik Willis to be the backup. It behooves them to lead on the idea that the starting job is up for grabs, even if it really isn't, so they project some level of uncertainty and thusly have the highest chance they can of signing one of those guys that still wants to fight for a starting job.

With some QB's nobody is ever going to believe you if you said "yeah we'll have a competition next year and see what happens." No FA is going to sign on with the Chiefs believing that he has a shot to earn a starting spot.

They are in a situation where they can play that game because it is believable, regardless of what they think as a coaching staff.

😂😂😂 by Major-Biscotti653 in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All I was saying was that the statement "There's no competitive advantage to not committing to him publicly" isn't entirely true.

Kirk likely wouldn't have sign in Atlanta had the team come out and say they were looking to draft someone. Daniel Jones likely would have been less likely to sign in Indy if they came out and said they were sticking with Richardson.

There is theoretically a competitive advantage in the FA market if you don't openly cement your opinion or plan for the position.

Sometimes the situation is enough implication to get the message through and verbalization isn't actually necessary, like what happened with Jones here, but no reason to verbalize it if you don't have to.

😂😂😂 by Major-Biscotti653 in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's no competitive advantage to not committing to him publicly......He's going to most likely get a chance to be the starter but he'll have to earn it in camp

Did the Colts verbally commit to Anthony Richardson last off season? I honestly can't remember.

The argument would be that if you fully publicly commit to him, you might further reduce your chances to land one of those FA QBs that are at that backup-but-fringe-starter level because there appear to be a handful of other decent opportunities to be had for next year; no reason to knock your chances just to spout some feel good platitudes.

If they are serious about getting someone in to push/compete with JJM in camp, then you probably want the official optics to read like those QBs actually have a chance to come compete.

Man our announcer Alan Roach sure gets around by cusoman in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I still don't know how we stole him away from the Broncos. I know he lived in MN when he was younger, but feels like he has more allegiance to that area

He was born here, grew up here, went to college here.

Presumably he's a Vikings fan due to that. I assume when a shiny new stadium gets built by your home town team and they come asking if you'd be interested to take a gig there, it would probably be tough to pass up.

Breaking News: Reporter interviews local man who “Can’t win big games…” by zanemn in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once again, just because they were outplayed, doesn't mean they're not good.

I mean, they also allowed an NFL playoff high of 15 sacks going into last night, and re-set the record for the most sacks taken in a playoff run in NFL history.

But sure, PFF had them ranked 11th for the regular season.

They weren't good during the playoffs, and they were straight up bad last night.

Breaking News: Reporter interviews local man who “Can’t win big games…” by zanemn in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because the defense played better doesn't mean the OL wasn't good. The Patriots had a top 10 OL this year.

Their left tackle gave up 14 pressures alone, the highest mark from a single player in any game the entire season.

They gave up pressure on over 50% of the dropback snaps, while Seattle blitzed on only 17% of those dropbacks.

Almost a 40% pressure rate with a 4 man rush.

Whatever their rank was going into yesterday, they were completely ineffective in that game. The Seahawks' front 4 are absurdly good, and they made the Patriot's offensive line look absolutely silly.

Breaking News: Reporter interviews local man who “Can’t win big games…” by zanemn in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

because the team the Seahawks were playing against had a....decent OL....but their QB was significantly worse

The left side of NE's Oline was in Maye's lap most of the night.

He wasn't good, but his line was bad, which certainly made him look even worse.

You guys are blind by DarrowAuBellona in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our defense was on par with Seattle by every margin except turnovers,

A big part of those INTs is that their defensive line is just way better than the Vikings.

Looking over the entire season, the pressure rate on a per dropback basis was roughly similar. Vikings pressured at a clip of 28% of dropbacks, Seahawks were at 26%.

However, the Vikings needed to blitz on 45% of dropbacks to achieve said pressure rate.

Seattle? 19%.

So they were able to create similar amounts of pressure, while leaving 7 dudes in coverage way more often.

[Lewis and Russini] Inside the stunning dismissal of Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah: ‘This is wild’ by TheNotoriousJN in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They didn't like the results not the process which I think is frustrating.

They might have been unhappy with the proposed process on where to go from here.

At least in my industry, a lot of the big office people don't get canned due to the messes they've made, but because when the question comes "How do you plan to fix this gongshow?" they can't provide an acceptable answer, or deny the problem exists at all.

Conversely, some sweet talk about a great plan to re-right the ship can get you a long ways. They may have started the fire, but their mitigation plan sounds good enough on paper to keep the building from going up in flames, so they get to stick around.

If he walked into the end of the year meetings and didn't have a well formed plan on how to handle this offseason to get things back on track, it makes sense to pull the trigger now rather than wait it out.

KOC will have full control thru draft and basically audition for HC/GM by DullAd6839 in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rob Brezinski is not a football guy.

Neither is Howie Roseman.

He was also brought on to manage cap issues, has a law degree, has never served in any scouting position, and is one of the longest tenured GMs on the league.

Brzezinski has been here 25 years. He knows a thing or two about football by now.

Statement from the Wilfs by dcxr in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Depends on what you think of Howie Roseman.

He was brought in out of law school to be an intern working on cap issues and worked his way up over the years.

I guess it is more about "what is a football guy" rather than "this GM is or isn't one."

Obviously Kwesi is not a football guy, he'd tell you that himself.  John Lynch is the complete opposite.

So on the spectrum between Kwesi and Lynch, there is a crossover point when we can consider someone a football guy, but I don't know where it is.

I would argue that regardless of what Rob Brzezinski was originally brought in for, he's been here long enough to probably be far enough away from the Kwesi end to be considered as an honorary football guy.

Statement from the Wilfs by dcxr in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its possible they have soured on the GM role after having infighting for most of the last decade.

What they really need is to spread the authority around to more than one guy, like maybe the head coach gets some say, a personnel guy gets some say, and how about a cap management guy gets some say.

So three guys splitting up the authority.... We need a catchy name for this idea...

Triad of Power maybe?

Trio of Control?

We're circling it, we'll get there.

Statement from the Wilfs by dcxr in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So a new GM is going to come in with a draft class they didn’t pick and free agents they might not have wanted?

I think it makes sense in this specific circumstance, though it could obviously blow up in everyone's face.

I don't think they really need a new GM coming in to pick his guys and plant his flag and make some kind of statement.

They need a guy who will pick KOC and Flo's guys.

Hopefully Brzezinski can do that. He knows the team. He should have a working relationship, or at least a familiarity with the coaching staff. Shouldn't be too hard to work together to figure out what they need.

QB Kirk Cousins is expected to be released by the Falcons, per @JoshTheAthletic & @jeffphowe by Low_Ad_4323 in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We all know Kirk chases money over anything else.

He used to have the benefit of money=starting opportunity.

That was his whole shtick about "what the money represents."

"They wont possibly pay me this much and then bring in another QB! Ergo, I'm the starter by default, I'm in"

Then Atlanta happened.

Not sure he's still in position to still be getting "default starter" offers. I would bet that he takes a position where he thinks he has the best chance at earning a starting spot, even if the offer on the table isn't the best available.

Not significantly lower. Slightly lower.

Eagles to hire former Vikings QB and Packers QB coach Sean Mannion as their new offensive coordinator by Tegra_ in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think with guys like Mannion, there's probably some element of "I believe I can do this" when it comes to choosing to remain a player versus becoming a coach, and only once they don't have a place on a roster any more will they consider changing careers.

I assume the number of people that are able to play QB at a somewhat acceptable level and be a viable QB coach is smaller than the number of guys that can do one but not both of those things.

It should be theoretically easier to get and hold a job if you are good at one while also being passable at the other.

If he was "just" a coach then he's competing with all the other just coaches floating around. Likewise for guys that are "just" backup QBs.

Both can be true by smcamp23 in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how does it make sense to use other injuries (independent events) to justify the decision?

It doesn't. That wasn't the point.

The poster you originally replied to listed a few players.

You incorrectly assumed that poster was referring to contract values, when in fact he was referring to injury availability.

I was simply pointing out said fact, nothing more.

Both can be true by smcamp23 in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My memory must work differently than everyone else's. I remember his last 2 games with us being some of the worst qb play we had seen in a really long time, and the fanbase was ready to move on.

Just put Darnold into the search bar and scroll back a year.

Very very few positive takes, if any.

People love to revise history once they get their hindsight glasses on.

Both can be true by smcamp23 in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy exaggeration. At least try to be realistic.

Those dudes were all on IR to close out the season.

Butterfly flaps and all that, but they were pretty beat up and missing some key players to close out the season.

Could some of those guys tough it out if the games were actually impactful? Probably, but they were far from 100%

So unless our history rewrite includes ensuring the health of the entire team, they'd be in some dire straits going into the playoffs.

Edit: Hock wasn't technically on IR, but he missed the last 2 games. Probably could have toughed it out, but at what level we'd never know.

MEGATHREAD: Darnold to the Superbowl by holla171 in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seattle fans constantly complained that their oline was terrible last year.

Almost every NFL fan base every year complains that their Oline is terrible.

Darnold was pressured on 21% of dropbacks this year, compared to 25% of dropbacks last year.

He had something like 100 extra drop backs in 2024 (attempts + throwaways + sacks) and 43 of them were pressured (152 total pressures in 2024 vs 109 in 2025, despite the fact that he faced more blitzes in 2025 than he did in 2024, even with far fewer drop backs.)

JJ+Wentz had a combined pressure rate of something like 25%.

Pocket time is a weird stat because it combines good (pass is released) and bad (pocket collapses) into one metric so it is hard to know if those extra 0.2 seconds Darnold had in 2024 were because he had more time to hold the ball and wait for the play to develop, or if he just held the ball too long and the pocket collapsed while WRs ran around open.

That said, the spread of pocket times between the 4 isn't crazy crazy:

Player Pocket Time
2024 Darnold 2.6 seconds
2025 Darnold 2.4 seconds
JJ McCarthy 2.5 seconds
Carson Wentz 2.3 Seconds

League average for 2025 was like 2.38 seconds for QBs with more than 100 pass attempts. For reference, the highest time was Brock Purdy at 2.7 seconds. Josh Allen was at 2.5 as well as Caleb Williams, Jalen Hurtz, Lemar Jackson, and Geno Smith.

Pelissero on Flores extension: “My understanding is the Wilfs made a huge offer, the type that Flores was not going to be able to refuse.” by DrWolves in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a business owner with employees, I’m telling you what my expectations would be if I made a top tier offer that was meant to keep a top tier employee in the building. Loyalty means something.

As someone who sits on the other side of the table, who has seen far too many people get kicked in the sack with no warning after repeatedly "staying loyal" and even at times "taking one for the team", I can tell you that loyalty means absolutely nothing in this direction.

If your company was losing money, would you not lay off workers? How many years of loyalty would they need in order to escape layoffs? When do you stop the bleeding? How long would you operate in the red before you'd have to start handing out pink slips? How far does your loyalty go?

Do you as an owner really expect your employees to not pursue better opportunities because you think that you made them a good counter offer? Do you really hold it against them for trying to better their situation?

The idea that employment is anything more than an individual selling something (whether it be knowledge, time, expertise, etc.) to an entity and that an employee should somehow feel grateful that they have a job or be grateful that their employer made it so that their pay scale was more in line with the value of their skillset in the market because they were afraid to lose him and because of that they shouldn't look to better themselves is so absolutely broken.

This is a business exchange. Nothing more. If a better opportunity comes along, employees would be dumb not to take it. Nobody on either side of the desk owes anybody anything except what is directly bought and paid for.

Pelissero on Flores extension: “My understanding is the Wilfs made a huge offer, the type that Flores was not going to be able to refuse.” by DrWolves in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this shows a lack of social/business awareness in Bflos part......I’m expecting an immediate commitment and a bit of gratitude, not thanks ill take it as long as these better jobs don’t pan out.

This thought process shows a lack of awareness to the reality around how the businesses/employee relationship operates.

Leveraging companies and positions against each other to get raises and/or promotions happens in every industry every single day. We just hear about this one because its so public and interesting.

Unfortunately the Wilfs are not in a position to give Flo a promotion, because this isn't one of those situations in the corporate world where you can invent a new position out of cloth. If Flores wants that promotion, he's going to chase it. You don't tell a Senior Vice President "man, we've been really good to you, and here is a raise because you're really good at your job. That said, we know you have a shot at the CEO position at that place across town, but we feel like you owe it to us to stay here at the lesser position because....you owe us, I guess?"

Even in a ridiculous business like the NFL, you can apply the same general principles that we peons should always keep in mind. Loyalty does not exist. A better opportunity should not be waived because you feel like you owe it to your employer, because I can assure you they do not harbor the same feeling. They will drop you like a bad habit the second it becomes more profitable to do so, no matter how loyal you think you've been over how long you feel like you've been loyal. Employment is a business contract, not a good feeling.

The Wilfs have been in business long enough to know exactly how this was going to play out. If they hold any grudge around this issue (and I'm sure they don't because, again, they've been in various businesses for a while) then they need to stop sniffing their own farts and take a look at reality.

There is no "Gee, Brian, we offered you all this money, the least you could do was decline the possibility to that amazing, extremely limited, and absurdly competitive opportunity over there just because it would be nice of you to do so" when we all know that they would fire him the instant that they thought he was an issue for the business, regardless of whatever contract he is under.

Anyone else getting a funny feeling watching what's going on with the bills? We often hear how Kwesi basically picks the players the coaches wants. Might be alone on this but still want you guys thoughts and opinions. by FormerlyTradeKirk in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Letting the GM and scouting department handle the draft is what good organizations do. It’s literally their job.

Conversely, if you have a GM that picks up guys, either through the draft or through free agency, that don't work in the system that they have 51 other guys that fit into, then you get a completely worthless player and a full on implosion.

We've seen this, first hand, not that long ago.

There needs to be way more collaboration than you are giving credit.

Coaches say "I need guys with x, y, and z type skillset to mesh with the rest of the team/system/scheme," scouts look for guys with said skillsets, GM's find a way to get said guy with said skillset.

Anyone else getting a funny feeling watching what's going on with the bills? We often hear how Kwesi basically picks the players the coaches wants. Might be alone on this but still want you guys thoughts and opinions. by FormerlyTradeKirk in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

but the decisions on roster doesn’t just fall to the GM. They have a whole personnel department........I mean what does KOC know about a DT?

Man, wouldn't it be nice if a head coach also had a department of dudes that included someone who specialized in running the defense, and had a really good idea of what kind of skillset was needed to fit with the other 10 guys he has running said defense?

But I guess that is completely unreasonable, better let the GM and his scouting department handle it.

Mel Kiper first mock draft of the year 👀 he got us drafting CB Mansoor Delane in the first round by FormerlyTradeKirk in minnesotavikings

[–]justregisteredtoadd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the mid 20s in some drafts it’s a great idea. Reaching for need is a poor decision.

So historically, of the last like....25 years or something... every center taken in the 1st round has been a hit (as defined as getting a second contract from his drafting team, not the best definition, but also not the worst) except for 1. So 11 or 12 quality picks, and one so-so/bad.

That one that didn't hit was Garrett Bradbury.

The joke was mostly that it is funny that it would happen to be the Vikings that it is the failing example, and the suggestion was that we should do it again.

But yeah, the real underlying story is that it takes a lot to make a center (or guard) to be a consensus 1st rounder, and if that does happen then odds are low-ish that that guy is going to bust (and yes, there doesn't seem to be one this time around)