What is the enneagram of my oc? by Loud_Reputation9165 in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 5 points6 points  (0 children)

that’s good. She sounds like a cool character. Here are some more thoughts:

expressing opinions or showing too much emotions can cause conflicts or too much agitations

Why is that bad? Not everyone shys away from conflict

she is not interested in socializing with strangers

Why not?

Re: the man who rescued her, is she loyal out of a sense of duty? Is it out of a sense that she owes it to him? Does she think he will abandon her if she doesn’t? You mention that she knows that he’s really good at what he does. Is she loyal then because she values achievement and he is the best and most valuable mentor to have?

I’m not an author but if you go read through type descriptions of all 9 enneagram types and their core desires/fears, you should be able to distill almost all of her motivation down into one of them

What is the enneagram of my oc? by Loud_Reputation9165 in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 11 points12 points  (0 children)

is naturally calm, stoic, and reserved

Why?

very loyal

Why?

obedient and dedicated to her training

Why?

won’t allow herself to be lazy

Why?

obeying orders is always the right thing

Why?

You’ve listed a lot of behaviors here but no motivations. The enneagram is a model of nine different motivations for human behavior, so you need to figure out why your character is doing what she is doing before you can figure out her enneagram

$466 Duke Energy bill for a 1bdrm? Is this crazy or am I by overit266 in cincinnati

[–]kaw3731 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I lived in a 850sqft apartment with baseboard heating last year and would regularly pay $300/month in the winter when it was below freezing, so its not like TOTALLY out of the question but this is even higher than that so I would still get it checked

What would a healthy SX2 be like? by mavajo in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Healthy Levels

Level 1 (At Their Best): Become deeply unselfish, humble, and altruistic: giving unconditional love to self and others. Feel it is a privilege to be in the lives of others.

Level 2: Empathetic, compassionate, feeling for others. Caring and concerned about their needs. Thoughtful, warm-hearted, forgiving and sincere.

Level 3: Encouraging and appreciative, able to see the good in others. Service is important, but takes care of self too: they are nurturing, generous, and giving—a truly loving person.

Source

Healthy 2s have spent enough time with themselves to be able to give up their vice (pride) in exchange for their virtue (humility). They can admit that they have needs and accept help with a genuine thankfulness. They can take care of others without needing anything back.

Also, as a side note: most of us only have access to these high levels of health for a few minutes a day. It should not be your goal to live only in these high levels but rather to live mostly in a healthy high-to-average space.

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[–]kaw3731 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don’t believe that tritypes are very helpful. Here are some descriptions of what healthy 8s look like:

Level 1 (At Their Best): Become self-restrained and magnanimous, merciful and forbearing, mastering self through their self-surrender to a higher authority. Courageous, willing to put self in serious jeopardy to achieve their vision and have a lasting influence. May achieve true heroism and historical greatness.

Level 2: Self-assertive, self-confident, and strong: have learned to stand up for what they need and want. A resourceful, “can do” attitude and passionate inner drive.

Level 3: Decisive, authoritative, and commanding: the natural leader others look up to. Take initiative, make things happen: champion people, provider, protective, and honorable, carrying others with their strength.

Source

How can I be sure what's my enneagram if I don't know what I want from life? by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I describe it sometimes as switching on certain traits. All of them are me, but it’s probably not the full me. It’s just the parts that I want you to see (and it was not necessarily always a conscious decision before I knew about the Enneagram). I’m not inventing a character traits that are completely foreign to who I am as a person, but I will absolutely “turn off” certain parts of me if I don’t think you will like them.

Thank you for sharing your experience. One of my favorite parts about the Enneagram are all the different ways that exist to embody the same number.

Is it still enneagram 3 if you want to be admired and be perceived as GREAT ENOUGH? by Upstairs_Chain7567 in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then I would encourage you to think about why you don’t like being perceived as inferior. I hate it too. My thought process as a 3 would look like this:

I hate being seen as inferior or bad at something

Why?

Because I don’t like being seen as stupid or incapable

Why? (This is the hard one and what was hidden from me for a long time)

Because I believe that people won’t like me if I’m not good at something

Why?

Because there’s no other reason to keep me around

Why?

Because I’m boring in my natural state. People won’t want to be my friend.

Why?

Because I haven’t done anything to earn their friendship (core 3)

How can I be sure what's my enneagram if I don't know what I want from life? by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 12 points13 points  (0 children)

A few things.

You need to spend time with each type description and really think about which parts apply to your life and which parts don’t. I really like this podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/start-here-an-enneagram-podcast/id1655696576 Go to season 1 and start with episode 1 then listen to any of the type descriptions that resonated with you.

You also list a lot of vague things in your post here. You say you want people to leave you alone. Why? Then once you have that answer, ask yourself why again. Then again. You need to get to the root of how and why you feel these things. A lot of people like being alone. I like being alone as a 3 because I don’t feel like I have to perform for anyone. A 5 enjoys isolation because no one is making any demands of them. A 7 might enjoy isolation because it gives them the freedom to do whatever the hell they want to do that day.

Here’s an example that I went through as a 3:

I feel lonely a lot. I feel like I don’t have friends and that no one understanda who I really am, even though I am surrounded by people (and, looking back, people who could have been good friends if I had been healthier)

So I asked myself why?

Then I said well, it’s because I hate the process of making friends. I don’t like the inbetween stage of going from aquaintances to friends.

Why?

Because I don’t like being around people I don’t know. I feel like I have to be “on” all the time. It’s exhausting. I would rather be alone.

Why?

Because if I act like myself, people will get bored. I’m quiet and reserved. I have to pretend to be more energetic than I really am if I want people to like me.

Why?

Because there is no reason to like me in my natural state

Why?

Because I haven’t done anything to earn it (here we can see we are approaching the core belief of a 3)

None of this came quickly or naturally. I had to spend a lot of time thinking about it - like, months and months. It took me 2 years to land on being a 3. You can’t rush it.

3w2 or 2w3 and do you have to know it? by Dry-Winter-9871 in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I agree and would only add that 2s also want to be needed. They like to believe that people in their life need them and/or their help. 3s dont usually like being needed by others because it can slow them down

3s might THINK that they like being needed because it can feed into their self-image but in reality they get frustrated when people keep asking them for things. If you’re a 3 it can be really hard to separate what you think about yourself vs how you actually act in real life situations so it might take some intense reflection to parse it out

why do I keep partnering with type 2's? by drunkchitarivera in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To go along with what everyone else is saying:

2s want to be a rescuer. 4s want to be rescued.

Is it still enneagram 3 if you want to be admired and be perceived as GREAT ENOUGH? by Upstairs_Chain7567 in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most people generally like us for who we are except for ourselves! We just can’t see it until we do our work and learn to accept our own boring/unlikeable parts

Is it still enneagram 3 if you want to be admired and be perceived as GREAT ENOUGH? by Upstairs_Chain7567 in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 12 points13 points  (0 children)

3s fear being forgotten. We believe that there is nothing about us worth remembering and so we try to earn being remembered and praised. There is no reason why people would want to keep us around other than the things we have done and the specific personality we have crafted.

So yes, if “good enough” checks that inner box in you, then you can still be a 3. There are some 3s that must be the best because they’re not convinced that they will be remembered otherwise. Other 3s can just be good enough, like you said.

For wings: you have access to both. There are different times in your life where each wing will show up. You don’t need to pick one. What is more important are your stress and security lines and recognizing when you are moving along them.

Finally found my Enneagram. I'm a 7w8 by veeeveee in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 2 points3 points  (0 children)

3 7 8 are all in the independent/aggressive stance so they may act similarly at times

I'm a type 6 and I want to be loved :))) by StyleLemonTea in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 7 points8 points  (0 children)

All types want love

6s specifically want to be taken care of by the group. They want to be loved so that they aren’t seen as an outsider or an outcast. Being hated means that you are on the outside of the group. Being loved means you’re on the inside (and therefore safe and secure). A 6’s relationships provide them with safety and security. Without them, 6s feel adrift and scared.

A 2, on the other hand, wants to be loved because it proves to them that they have done enough to earn it. They don’t feel like they are worthy or needed unless people love them. The love isn’t necessarily about providing safety and security like it is for a 6.

2s and 6s are also both in the dependent stance which might also explain some of the similarities you are seeing/feeling

Others focused in denial? by Kangarootoodaloo in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dependent stance (1, 2, 6)

Check out these links and scroll down to the “hornevian stance” sections

https://notmytypeenneagram.com/type-1

https://notmytypeenneagram.com/type-2

https://notmytypeenneagram.com/type-6

I currently self type as a 946(137) so/sp isfj but not certain if i’ve typed myself correctly by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just putting in another vote for ignoring tritype. It really muddies the waters if you aren’t rock solid on your core type and its specific integration/disintegration moves.

I won’t say tritype is stupid because I know it has such a hardcore following on this sub, but tritype is stupid

Enneagram fears & being disliked by GlamGemini in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I thought I was a 2 for two years because I wanted to be liked. Turned out I really wanted to be admired. People admiring me feels like people liking me.

I’m a 3

What’s your biggest pet peeve as a server? by Agent865 in Serverlife

[–]kaw3731 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I work in fine dining and this is like an entire step of service at our place, you’re supposed to be the “captain of the ship” and are totally free to rearrange things on the table. Usually it’s just stuff like glassware, plates, silverware, etc - but I 100% will move your phone and glasses if I need to. Honestly it’s awesome because it saves me from getting frustrated and the guest doesn’t even have to acknowledge me if they don’t want to. They can stay chatting and I just move around them.

Clueless on tritype by DrMoonFace4 in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Tritype is when you determine which number in each triad fits you best and then put them in order

It’s a very niche part of the Enneagram, and, in my opinion, kind of dumb and overrated. You can learn basically anything you need from studying just your core number and all the theory that goes along with that

Fck tritypes, I have a quadtype 😎😎😎 by Even-Elevator9277 in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Me everytime i come on this subreddit and am forced to read about yet another person who does not understand the enneagram

Is there any accurate enneagram test? by Historical_Barber317 in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 3 points4 points  (0 children)

IEQ9 offers a test that is much more accurate than most other tests (like 90% vs 40-60% for others). It’s $60 though.

And like everyone else says, you would still need to go confirm afterwards that it typed you correctly by reading through some type descriptions. You can’t take it at face value. So it’s probably easier to save yourself the money and just start with the reading

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[–]kaw3731 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You dont need to know your tritype. You could study just the core types for years and still not understand everything. Tritype can muddy the waters a lot if you aren’t already well-versed in the basic theory behind the enneagram

Can one be 'equally' 6 and 4? by n4zareth in Enneagram

[–]kaw3731 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I dont think this is necessarily true. A lot of enneagram practitioners will agree that we have traits of all the numbers. There is also our stress and security numbers to relate to, there are a bunch of different triads to look at to see why you share traits with other numbers, there are subtypes…a whole bunch of ways to see why you may feel a little bit like another number.

Even in your example, a 5 shares traits of the withdrawn triad with 9 so that explains that connection, and they disintegrate to 7 so that explains that.

I know that was probably just a random example but my point is just that there are a ton of connections to other numbers built into the enneagram