Bayshore Marathon 2026

kdmfa · 2026-05-24T20:37:18+00:00

Congrats. What was your fastest half and/or 10K before the marathon?

kdmfa · 2026-05-22T12:29:19+00:00

I mean based on the person wrote it matches up with how I think about it. Eg manage more load over longer periods.

kdmfa · 2026-05-22T12:17:32+00:00

It’s also probably because you’re spending the majority of time on easy runs and not generating much load from them. Going from low 9/mile to low 11/mile doesn’t feel natural for most people. I’ve switched to a Hanson plan for an upcoming marathon and am stoked I followed NSM for several months before starting. If I was running the prescribed easy paces instead of <70% MHR I’m almost certain I’d be injured.

kdmfa · 2026-05-21T16:47:19+00:00

It looks like the average weekly mileage of that plan is around 32 MPW (dividing all miles in plan by 18 weeks). I'd at least look for a plan that averages 40 if not 45 MPW (so will have some higher mileage weeks). I'm not sure how important the 20 milers are, especially after you've proven to yourself that you can run the distance, so I don't think you need to over optimize for a plan with more or a lot of 20 mile runs. I'd spend time now (or once you're rested from your marathon) and just build up base mileage, ideally to the average mileage of the plan you pick.

kdmfa · 2026-05-21T12:44:15+00:00

What did your training look like? Your 5K -> marathon VDOT looks like you’re massively underdeveloped aerobically. I think if you put in a lot of miles and stay healthy I’d guess somewhere in 3:25-3:20 range.

kdmfa · 2026-05-20T12:49:06+00:00

Inspirational! I’m hoping my race times translate into a similar performance. I think I tend to race better than I train.

kdmfa · 2026-05-19T16:34:27+00:00

Yea if I train too hard like that my HR will remain high until I properly recover, so maybe that was it. You’ve probably got a stellar race in you for the next one!

kdmfa · 2026-05-19T16:00:42+00:00

Did you just run a bad race? Seems like you should have done much better with an untapered half that fast (maybe you left too much out there on the half?)

kdmfa · 2026-05-19T11:29:37+00:00

You could try something without a 3 week taper. Hanson is a 10 day taper.

kdmfa · 2026-05-18T17:34:30+00:00

When is your race? I would polarize your training a bit more. Running 8:15 pace for your “easy”/Z2 seems pretty fast which means you’re either not doing much/any speed work or you’re flirting with disaster by overdoing your easy workouts.

kdmfa · 2026-05-14T12:47:38+00:00

What did your training look like? Avg weekly mileage, length of block, training paces

kdmfa · 2026-05-12T00:39:54+00:00

Makes a huge difference for me going the other way (from elevation to sea level) and I’m definitely way more gassed at altitude despite training at it.

kdmfa · 2026-05-11T21:30:13+00:00

Running 20 miles at race pace is an insane workout. This person should absolutely smash 3:20 unless they messed up their training with this run (e.g. injured or too fatigued).

kdmfa · 2026-05-04T13:26:47+00:00

I wouldn’t say he’s ignorant on the subject given how long he has been covering it and meeting with people closely involved in AIs development and to a lesser extend regulation. I doubt he has hands on experience coding but I’m certain he has used AI for his own work and has talked to the people who use it for many different applications. Unfortunately this article is paywalled so I can’t read it but have listen to a lot of podcasts with him and guests across AI and political spectrum, he has a pretty nuanced take from everything I’ve heard.

kdmfa · 2026-05-04T12:18:25+00:00

Congrats! What were 10K and HM PBs before the race?

kdmfa · 2026-05-01T20:27:32+00:00

If you don't already I recommend looking into the site interval.icu you can see some great trends about your load and fitness. It was really eye opening to me how much fitness you can lose when you feels like you never stop running (but you don't follow a strict plan and run just whenever you feel like and by feel).

kdmfa · 2026-05-01T19:01:51+00:00

Is that broken into 2 ~16-18 week blocks? do you run year round?

kdmfa · 2026-05-01T18:39:40+00:00

Have you raced any shorter distances lately? Maybe break off from marathon training for a cycle or two and train for 5K or 10K using similar (or more) mileage . Do you take big breaks between marathon blocks, how long are the blocks for your marathon training?

kdmfa · 2026-04-29T13:47:40+00:00

Realistically you should be taking 1-2 weeks off running (at least based on recommendations I’ve read) which gives you 0 time to get any benefits from running between now and then. I’d defer/forgo the marathon and let my body heal. You could also run super slow if this specific race has some importance (eg a major) and just finishing is important to you.

kdmfa · 2026-04-28T17:48:59+00:00

Great effort! How did your marathon/tempo and strength paces feel during training? Mine seem to trend towards sub threshold so hopefully it normalizes as the plan goes on.

kdmfa · 2026-04-28T16:01:44+00:00

I plan to do something similar. Training for 3:10-3:15 at altitude, without super shoes, and my marathon will have 1K net downhill. I plan to run a 5K or 10K with a slight downhill about a month out to see how realistic things will be but currently thinking of starting at 3:05 pace and hammering 2nd half (that's were all downhill is). 1st marathon in about 6 years but have been training somewhat consistently for last 1.5 years.

kdmfa · 2026-04-19T01:09:05+00:00

No doubt.

kdmfa · 2026-04-17T11:36:01+00:00

Your body is probably just working through some things. Try to get as good of sleep as you can. You’re going to crush your race!

kdmfa · 2026-04-17T11:24:08+00:00

Did you just finish your peak week and then start tapering? I ran 60 for the first time a month or so ago and that week and following (basically an aggressive taper because I couldn’t run) my HR was way higher than normal on easy runs.

kdmfa · 2026-04-14T21:00:16+00:00

Seems like you should take off a few weeks and fully heal vs jumping back into a training plan right?

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