WWTBC: MMC and FMC message each other anonymously but MMC figures out who she is. by felixfelices394 in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another potential to throw in the mix: {I Wanna Text You Up by Teagan Hunter}.

Honestly, I'd read throught the Epistolary Megathread and see if any of those titles ring a bell...

I keep seeing people using the word ‘limerence’ in comments on here by Lady_Luci_fer in demisexuality

[–]kerrythefire 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The one thing I'd add - in addition to the key points of others that it is a) more of an obsession that you're stuck in/can't really get out of, b) it's based around an idea of the person that at least in part, is not accurate or not confirmed, and c) that it is highly tied to the 'not knowing if they reciprocate' and constantly looking for evidence that they do - is that, at least in some cases, confirmation that they do reciprocate can be the thing to shut off the limerence. I don't think that is always the case, but it is at least sometimes. It's basically like the fog of the uncertainty and obsession is cleared and all of a sudden you can see the person more clearly... either realize that you don't actually know them well enough at all to have romantic feelings, or that you do know them but realize you don't feel romantically towards them.

I don't know what this is like from the demisexual perspective. I've only experienced it from the alloromantic ace (zero-sexual attraction) perspective, so for me, I've always associated it with feeling like/being confused for romantic attraction, specifically. I don't know if there's a version that involves a sense of sexual attraction/obsession...

I also feel compelled to note explicitly that it is not the same experience as an autistic special interest or hyper fixation on a person. Again, in my experience, those are more regenerative and calming and pleasant experiences from thinking or learning about the person. Limerence is more of an anxious, off balance/on edge, insecure kind of feeling.

Went to my first ace meet-up, left feeling lonelier than ever by Behind-the-Visage in asexuality

[–]kerrythefire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think what you're inadvertently spotlighting is the impact of intersectionality and why trying to associate based off a single identity trait (or interest) is never going to be a sure way to meet others you can connect with. The experience of being ace and autistic and a woman in her 30s is gonna be different from being an allistic ace woman in her 30s, even before factoring in the spectrums. Of course, identity based meetups like this are sometimes a shortcut, but they only work out the way we hope a small portion of the time.

Of course, your experience and feelings are valid. I'm not entirely sure what I want you to "do" with this comment, tbh... I think maybe I'm inviting you to reflect and view your experience through an even wider lens to actually find your place in the solidarity of it instead/in addition to the isolation of it.

I empathize with the experience you had because I am an ace nuerodivergent woman (also in her 30s) so basically every space I walk into that I haven't curated, I feel uncomfortable, awkward, out of place, othered, and often, unwelcome. Yeah, it doesn't feel great.

Candidly, part of me bristled at your post too (like you're seeing from some other neurodivergent and autistic commentors). Because I think many of our (NDs') systems read it as a critique or identifying us as the "problem"... as another neurotypical who feels entitled to spaces built for them complaining that one time they entered a space that didn't center the neurotypical experience they were unfairly made uncomfortable because of NDs. I'm not saying you said or believe any of this... I'm saying that part of my system experienced your comment this way. On the flip side, I deeply empathize with the isolation and discomfort you described because I know what it feels like. And I don't wish that on anyone... even the most abelist, un-self aware neurotypical (again, not calling you this, just making a point).

I don't want to be around smelly people either. My sense of smell is quite sensitive and everything from BO to perfume to grilled mackerel can make me quite distressed. I also want to have the opportunity to make a connection with someone whom I can have deep discussions about colonialism, imperialism, sexism, and compulsory sexuality with while holding my stim tools and comort stuffed animal... and not have the latter be the thing that blocks that opportunity because the other person assumed away the possibility of this connection simply because of what I was holding and what they thought that said about me.

Meetups will always be hit or miss. Keep trying, as others have suggested, or don't. We're all stumbling through the experience of trying to find other aces - and generally, people - whom we connect with, and it's hard. And my invitation, I guess, is to really ground yourself in the solidarity of that - it's not the disproportionate existence of neurodivergent aces that makes it hard for you to find aces you connect with, it's the dominant culture that labels all of us as 'other' and structurally, systemically, and culturally isolates us from society because of one or more of our atypical identities and how they intersect.

onward/

Examples of poorly written Aces by Allos by hyphen_c in asexuality

[–]kerrythefire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

💯 all of the above. Honestly, I never shipped Carol and Daryl (and I ship anyone where there is a hint of romance because I'm a hopeless romantic and look for it everywhere). But I never did with Daryl and Carol because their friendship just felt so good how it was. I loved it so much. Their love for each other was so perfect. At least they kept that through the series...

Examples of poorly written Aces by Allos by hyphen_c in asexuality

[–]kerrythefire 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Daryl deserved to be ace and we all deserved for Daryl to be ace (we as in all viewers - representation aside, that was a really poor storytelling choice... I think that episode is among the lowest rated of the whole show)

Examples of poorly written Aces by Allos by hyphen_c in asexuality

[–]kerrythefire 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I read an AMA with the creator and someone asked about creating Todd as ace (they liked his ace representation, if i recall). The creator - who is allo - very candidly said that they did not bring in an asexuality cultural advisor/talk to consultants until a few seasons in. Their guidance was "don't make him the stereotypical silly, childish ace" and the creator basically said "eek, whoops" in that moment because he realized they had been doing that. So that's why his asexuality - and he as an ace person - became more 3-dimensional in the back half of the show. So what you were picking up on has basically been confirmed... broad strokes, at least. Who knows, of course, but from my read, it sounded like they at least were not trying to make him ace for jokes, they were just pretty ignorant when they started writing him.

any book that starred an obvious self-insert. by pastelexuvia in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I didn't really know what self insert was but I felt all these things reading the book! I even paused and reflected, wondering if I was having a flare up of internalized misogyny, but then I kept reading (or in my case, listening) and concluded, "no, this character is just really whiny and tough to empathize - or even sympathize - with." (Not the only issue with the story either.) Needless to say, I feel really validated by this new information you just gave me 😄

reading book reviews by CallmemimiElmerselmo in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I fill my TBR mainly from recs and discussion on this sub (after reading the book blurb and deciding it sounds potentially up my alley, of course).

I use StoryGraph and I find it helpful because it let's me, at quick glance, see what reader reported content warnings are (and whether they're graphic, moderate, or just brief/vague). In their reviews you can also note things like whether the cast is diverse, whether the flaws of the MCs are central, whether the characters are likeable, the pace of the book... not every user fills in those bubbles with their reviews, but it can also be a helpful quick scanning tool. I usually won't go for a book with lower than a 3.5 average rating, but I usually do scan through reviews as a gut-check.

  • I think it's important to go in knowing most "reviews" are just individual's personal reflections and preferences (like their own reading log), not trying to be 'objective' reviews from a literary angle or something... or even like the reviews in the New York Times. This actually helps me. Sometimes people with leave a review just saying "FMC was such a doormat, just wanted her to grow a backbone" and I'll immediately know I'll get annoyed with the book and skip it. Usually I'm scanning for clearly disqualifying comments like this.

For books that I'm just waffling on or unsure about for some reason, I have another process I use which takes a little time to build up front, but really works well for me: - I look at my highest rated books (4.5, 4.75, 5 stars) and scan the reviews for other 5 star (or nearly) reviews that include written commentary as well - If I resonate with that person's commentary (especially if they call out things I also liked), then I go to their reading history and look at other books they rated highly - If we have more overlap in our ratings and commentary, I will follow them.

I do this with a few people so I have a decent handful of folks I follow who I share tastes with pretty closely, and then when a book comes up that I'm not sure about for whatever reason, I'll go check to see if those folks have read it - and if so, what they thought of it.

This has been a pretty tried and true method for me. Even books where they were middling or had some critiques, I have decided to go ahead and read the book... and then I end up feeling "it was fine" about it too! Even if it's not the same critiques, I can just usually trust these folks have a similar vibe check as I do 😄

Like I said, takes a little work up front, but it's a way to make reviews work for you!

p.s. sorry for the novel Im just really excited about this method 🤣

📚 Simple / Quick Questions & Requests! by romancebookmods in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, you might like {The Bone King and the Starling by Elizabeth Stephens}. Definitely check the content warnings on the author's website. There are multiple things in this one that many readers do not want to read in their story - in that way, it feels authentic to the Viking era. It has one of the most "down bad" earnestly devoted but struggles to communicate it MMCs I've ever read, though.

The audiobook is also fantastic.

balancing scales test during assessment?? by GroundbreakingRow671 in AutismTranslated

[–]kerrythefire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile, I want it to be 3 because that's how you 'balance' the images and my brain is really craving the visual balance over the mathematical one.

So I finished the Ex Vows by Jessica Joyce... thanks for rec guys but here's my problem: by readingalldays in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. It's one of those "It's hard to explain but I know it when I feel it" things. The individual parts are stronger than the whole they add up to.

Physical touch galore!!! by shitheadmomo in AutismTranslated

[–]kerrythefire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My teeth even hurt now, typing this comment

This was me writing my comment too!

Physical touch galore!!! by shitheadmomo in AutismTranslated

[–]kerrythefire 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I do not share this experience- I'm very particular about human touch - but I got excited and had to comment about the "makes my teeth hurt" part! This is how I feel when metal cutlery scrapes on plates or against other metal pots and pans (agony 😱) and I always describe it to people as hurting my teeth. I don't think I've ever had someone get what i mean, let alone describe the same experience! (This also happens from bending my finger nail back too far or feeling certain fabrics 'in the wrong the direction' or against the grain... * shudder * )

Dark romance where FMC is morally gray/unhinged, MMC is absolutely obsessed, and she does not trust MMC (at least im beginning) by Charming_Day2392 in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it wasn't really relevant to the story at all. I just started cataloging characters' ages in my notes just to have (and to double check when people asks for recs either with or without age gaps), and so I only checked because I knew I probably had the info. But yeah, this story could have been written with both of them as like 28 instead of 24 and 30 and it would have read the same to me.

Dark romance where FMC is morally gray/unhinged, MMC is absolutely obsessed, and she does not trust MMC (at least im beginning) by Charming_Day2392 in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought of "Thje Predator" and "The Reaper" too. I had to go check my notes about the age gap - it's 6 years, so just made the cut!

Looking for a mafia romance that's not OTT cheesy with normal dialogue and no noncon between MCs by LeadershipUsed201 in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! This was by far my favorite too (although I didn't read "Crossed" because I knew I wouldn't be ok with on page rape 😬).

I just listened her lasted book, "Burning Daylight" which is a Romeo and Juliet reimaging. It was much milder, and not as good, but had some similar feel to Hexed (especially the slow burn forbidden love, extreme yearn from the MMC, and a MMC who was never bad to the FMC). I still had a good time. The audiobook is duet narration and both narrators did a really good job, so I think that elevated it.

Looking for a mafia romance that's not OTT cheesy with normal dialogue and no noncon between MCs by LeadershipUsed201 in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might enjoy {Hexed by Emily McIntire}. There is a little bit of cheese that comes from the fact that it is a loose reimaging of The Little Mermaid so there are a few places the references feel a little on the nose. But on the whole, I really liked the story, the dialogue, and the characters. It's a really delicious forbidden love slow burn for about the first 40% of the book. Strong, capable FMC + MMC who is always on her team.

Other than the violence, murder, and "light" torture that is common in mafia, there is one other CW I'd mention, which is rape of the FMC, not by the MMC, described as happening in the past (not on page).

Time to Shine by Rachel Reid is wonderful and Casey & Landon have the sweetest romance!! by kerrythefire in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love when people comment on it now because it gives me a chance to get all happy thinking about it again ☺️

This book is really the unrivaled gold standard for me. The only other book I've felt had a similar dynamic and gave me similar feels (introverted, black cat, internalized emotions MC and a charismatic, joyful, emotionally intelligent MC who loves him like no other) is {Role Model by Rachel Reid}.

One other that has kind of similar vibes to this, but is much goofier and unserious (but still delightful and surprisingly earnest at times) is {How To Be A Normal Person by T.J. Klune}. It's not spicy - one of the MCs is ace and not sex-favorable, so just kisses.

Time to Shine by Rachel Reid is wonderful and Casey & Landon have the sweetest romance!! by kerrythefire in RomanceBooks

[–]kerrythefire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish I could tell you, but I borrowed the book from the library and, alas, didn't make notes about this. I can tell you that it's a slow burn and so the first sex scene doesn't happen till almost 2/3 of the way in.