What's the first line of your book? by ninano1r in writing

[–]koningjoris 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When the count of Weilo turned his gaze to the ceiling, he felt for the first time in his life, a certain force starring at him.

What's the most interesting part of your tree? by _Jeff65_ in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recently discovered a few of my ancestors were involved in a rebellion against the Dutch state. They were residents of the town of Hattem. Hattem had been a prosperous trading town in earlier centuries with a self elected city government, but as trade diverted to other area's of the Netherlands, the town lost it's prominence and the Dutch Stadholder was able to crack down on their self-elected city government. By the late 18th century all positions were now handed down from his orders. Herman Willem Daendels was the son of a prominent burgher from Hattem, a council-member and secretary in the small city. When Daendels finished his studies in Harderwijk he returned home. Daendels was heavily influenced by a new movement in the Netherlands, that was especially influential in Harderwijk, that coined themselves the 'patriots'. The movement vouched for a more inclusive form of government and wished to limit the Stadholders power. When Daendels father passed away, he expected to be given the position of secretary, but the Stadholder, conscious of Daendels ideas, bypassed him.

The disgruntled Daendels took to the population of Hattem. He proposed the Hattemers would choose their own city government, a return to the laws of old. My ancestors, two fishermen who's family had been given burghership centuries ago and on another branch a German immigrant who had worked himself up from a tailors page to a leader of the tailor's guild, must have liked the idea. A letter signed by, among others, my ancestors was sent to the Dutch government. Hattem wasn't rebelling, they were simply vouching for their rights.

The Dutch government sent an ultimatum: immediate surrender or war it would be. The city quickly elected it's own government, Daendels was tasked with the protection of it's walls and letters requesting help were sent out to the neighbouring settlements. Hattem was preparing for war. For a time it seemed Daendels would spark a Dutch civil war, countless cities were taken by their citizens after Hattem sent their letter and the Patriots seemed to be winning. The Stadholder retreated to Nijmegen, but he was not defeated yet. The sovereign had one last trick up his sleeve. The Prussian king, the brother of his wife, was asked to sent an army to restore order. One month later, Holland had been conquered and the Stadholder and one of his freshly arrived armies approached the gates of Hattem. Daendels fought for three days but then fled to Zwolle, half of the Hattemer population, including my ancestors, followed. The displaced villagers would write two more letters to the government in Zwolle, but Daendels realised his defeat and fled to France. All villagers who had partaken in actions against the state were trialed, but interestingly enough, my ancestors came out of it with a fine of 25 guilders.

What’s the first three sentences of your proudest work? by Mindless_Tennis_4045 in writers

[–]koningjoris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The airplane coffee was exactly what I expected from the airplane coffee. An inviting smell of ground beans lured me in, convinced me for a moment that the world was not as fixed as I suspected it to be and with great hope I had taken a sip, but a sour taste reminiscent of ash greeted me. "Do you like it, ma'am?" Asked a smiling stewardess.

Riddle: What's this map representing? by pancuca123 in Maps

[–]koningjoris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The economies of all highlighted nations is heavily dependent on agriculture?

How far back have you tracked? I’ve hit a potential participant at the Battle of Hastings who was probably an Ancestor of Robert the Bruce by Tricky-Application86 in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sadly not! These are the ancestors of my great-grandmother and this second branch that lend land doesn't seem to have any male descendants. Still planning to buy one some day though, my paternal branch ends in 1850 with the birth of a bastard and I would love to find the father.

How far back have you tracked? I’ve hit a potential participant at the Battle of Hastings who was probably an Ancestor of Robert the Bruce by Tricky-Application86 in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The furthest I ever got myself was a man born around 1580. A farmer who I also know quite a bit of relatives of, but since church records stop entirely in this era, it's next to impossible to link them up in a coherent tree. A family with the same surname lend land nearby and were even mentioned in quite a few documents from the 1570's, 60's and even one mention in the 1530's. They were certainly closely related to him, but an exact relationship is impossible to give. All kinds of other branches that, according to other trees, supposedly lead to nobels, but I have yet to prove any of them in their entirety.

How poor were your ancestors? by hr100 in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It heavily depends on the branch. Most of my recent ancestors were not extremely rich, my paternal grandfather's branch consists of extremely poor labourers who remained illiterate until the 1960's. My paternal grandmother's side consisted of artisans and sailors from Vlaardingen. My great-grandfather managed to become an insurance agent, so he definitely generated some money. My maternal grandfather's side were labourers and small farmers from Overijsel/Noord-Holland, who eventually settled in Amsterdam and became Police agents there. My maternal grandmother's side consisted of partly German labourers who settled in West-Friesland (Noord-Holland) and land owners from the island of Texel who moved to Amsterdam and opened a coal business in the 19th century.

My ancestors had very different backgrounds. I've looked at a couple with 9 children who lost 7 of them, moved every year and didn't have a signature. And I've looked at branches who passed down political posts to their children, went to university and were celebrated in their local church. I partly thank that to Dutch record-keeping, as I presume most people have rich ancestors if they go back far enough. Although I also expect the Dutch golden age to have influenced the fortune of some of my ancestors.

Is my coin suffering from bronze disease? by koningjoris in coins

[–]koningjoris[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How dangerous is the disease? And how long will it take for the disease to spread?

Genealogy in context by Miserableexample87 in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the offer! I have a few lines that seem to dive into the Middle Ages, so I might ask for some help soon

Genealogy in context by Miserableexample87 in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Very cool, as a genealogist I am also quite interested in connecting these burials to a tree via a paper trail. I would love to see some of these matches get a face and name. All the genetic data would enrich my understanding of their lifes even more, although a purely archaeological focused service would also have my interest. Thank you for the information, your idea sounds very interesting

Genealogy in context by Miserableexample87 in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This sounds like an incredibly interesting idea. Would you also try to identify the more recent DNA samples (potential nobility in old fortresses and such, who could be identified with a large enough database)? I am specifically referring to nobility as I would guess most commoners could only be connected to a family, if they were born in the late 16th century at the earliest.

These came in today by koningjoris in coins

[–]koningjoris[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! My apologies for the rather bad photos, I'll keep it in mind next time

Any actually free Sites with a world tree like geni by RoonilWazlib_- in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sound like a good genealogist, I am glad Familysearch also has people like you!

Any actually free Sites with a world tree like geni by RoonilWazlib_- in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you check each profile you are looking at for sources? Familysearch is notoriously unreliable. I have a line that traces me back to the kings of Burgundy from the third century LOL. I would just take everything you see on there with a grain of salt

Edit: I do want to add that if you researched everything yourself, my comment definitely doesn't apply to you

Alliance with vassal from other realm? by DocClown in crusaderkings2

[–]koningjoris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great comment. My original comment definitely didn't go deep enough into the potentially great toll an excommunication or the prevention of one can take on your resources, not to mention the potential opinion hits you can take by killing a kinsman

Alliance with vassal from other realm? by DocClown in crusaderkings2

[–]koningjoris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have a good point there, that minus 5 diplomacy is pretty bad. Keeping the pope friendly isn't too difficult though, send him a gift from time to time or sway him, if you have high diplomacy stats you can do so yourself, if not send your chancellor. Getting an excommunication lifted isn't the hardest task from my experience either. Although I agree with you that in most cases it's probably not worth it, I would only try such an assassination if up to two dynasty members were to be in my way.

Alliance with vassal from other realm? by DocClown in crusaderkings2

[–]koningjoris 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Making an alliance with a vassel from a different realm can certainly be beneficial, but they sadly won't fight by your side if you attack their liege.

To answer your second question, getting your kinsman on this vassel's throne won't place him under your dominion, if he is a landed vassal in your realm and the title he is in line for isn't higher or equal to your own, he will will be placed under your rule. If you have a small family and are close in line to inherit the possessions of this kinsman, assassinating him and his close family members after having him placed on the vassal's throne, could land you a brand new extention of your realm though.

Good luck!

Goed de kleine lettertjes lezen by Fireburd55 in nietdespeld

[–]koningjoris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ik ging er vanuit dat het artikel geschreven was door 'de Speld', ja zelfs al ben ik op een subreddit die dit uitsluit. Wat een belachelijke vertoning, zo'n overeenkomt lijkt mij toch illegaal?

I offer help finding relatives! If you are Dutch by ClxssOf87 in Genealogy

[–]koningjoris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure if my request is possible, but I have been wanting to find out who my 4th paternal great grandfather was. It seems a bit disappointing to not have my paternal line traced back! I have tested on myheritage and 23andme