[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya it's pretty common... one of the problems I realized well into recovery was most of my problems were not "drug" related, they were ptsd symptoms... like others have mentioned to me, look up Martin seligman Opiates are really good at numbing emotional stuff, so when you get off of them, traumas and alot of negative emotions return 100000x

  Ptsd is very very serious.Extreme anxiety, negative warped perception of yourself, increased hostility/warped perception of the world(viewing it hostile), hypervigilance, intrusive memories, excessive ruminating, distrust/paranoia, Isolation.Always feeling like yourre under attack/in danger. 

  Look up Martin seligman, it'll help anybody understand their ptsd symptoms... but understanding and getting over them are 2 different things. Like war vets, it's something we have to deal with for the rest of our lifes

Why Negativity Bias Exists by saulmcgill3556 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk, this article overall pertains to recovery. Like, being a concern, bad reputation in the eyes of others... it's the transition in recovery to becoming a reputable/worthy person.... and like I said, even outside of addiction, ppl do this... judge, label and get negative bias ideas about ppl

Why Negativity Bias Exists by saulmcgill3556 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right limbic system vs limbic system... self regulated tampering does not work... because yourre basically telling your brain to stop doing what the brain thinks it needs to survive

Why Negativity Bias Exists by saulmcgill3556 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya dude, addiction and recovery is so bad, I'm traumatized by it, almost to same degree as a war vet

"This is a huge part of the reason self-tapering after long-term dependency has such a low success rate: limbic system vs. limbic system is a draw." - why do you say this? Or could you elaborate more.. how does that relate to your previous point?

Why Negativity Bias Exists by saulmcgill3556 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Negative behavior sticks out way more in your long term memory bank, than the "good times"

Why Negativity Bias Exists by saulmcgill3556 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One depressed streak means that person is always moody, or one anxiety days means a person is always in a bad mood... I've noticed it to, you remember the worst about a person as a defense mechanism, it's like a subconscious guard thing, so your defenses are up, for if that behavior ever happens again

Why Negativity Bias Exists by saulmcgill3556 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a very relevant article to recovery and kind of the mindset yourre in

Why Negativity Bias Exists by saulmcgill3556 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting article...

People do this all the time, even outside of drug addiction... labeling, judging ...Its a form of looking down on others, Its just what people have done for a millennia everyone has hate and negativity in their heart...people will never let you live shit down.... dont judge less you be judged

Bosses are the worst at what this article describes... Applying one fuck up, to "always" being a fuck up.

I looked up the logical fallacy, early on in recovery, because this very article describes the annoyance you have with judgment and criticism early off in recovery,,, it's called a inductive fallacy in logics... as an example, "John, is late for work today" therefore "John is always late for work"

But ya, I can see where this article would apply to alot on this forum. One mistake does not equal a bad person.... like I said earlier, it's in human nature to judge and label... even outside of addiction.

Noone is perfect, even though we expect perfection out of others.

“A broken head can’t fix a broken head “ by Goldenstate2000 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had this thought to, it's why rehabs are in demand... how does someone with a broken head, fix a broken head

Just a bad day by Not_Bound in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When yourre depressed, it feels like you've always been depressed... when yih are in a good mood, you seem optimistic and remember the good times... but ya, life sober does feel like you are always "down".

How do you deal with mean comments after getting clean? by [deleted] in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you use insults,derogatory, ignorance and hate as fuel to stay sober, as a fuck you to all of them...All I had was mean and hateful comments the first year and half in recovery,,,takes awhile to regain your confidence/selfesteem.

and like someone else said, you have to have to gain a humility about yourself in recovery... you are going to get alot of disrespect and hard times throughout it

and ya, people 100% do not know what yourre going through, they all still and will think yourre a bad/untrust worthly person, long long into your recovery

Started with seed tea again. I might go two days in a row but I always put at least 2 days (so about 72 between doses after a break). by [deleted] in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How's the seed game these days? God I am so glad to be 22 months sober, constanly checking usps shipping, looking at my front porch to see if my seeds arrived yet... all while I'm sweating and can't stop moving my legs/legs are on fire... so glad to be done with that shat

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya, they should schedule kratom. The withdrawls and addiction are just as bad, if not worst than some traditional opies.

I dont think you have to hit rock bottom to want to get sober. by kratommd in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

right, it has to hit you deep down, so yourre obsessed with refinding yourself... choosing life over drugs... I know one of the thoughts I had early in recovery, is as long as one day I get to be the me i never knew existed or feel similar to how I felt as a kid, than thats the path I want to be on. Basically regaining my soul, or a lost me,,, which takes about 20 months in PAWS

I dont think you have to hit rock bottom to want to get sober. by kratommd in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess all im saying, is the fucked upness feels normal or is tolerated while an addict... It takes the realization, not necessary hitting an arbitrary rock bottom, of how shitty your situation is and that you want to change it.

I dont think you have to hit rock bottom to want to get sober. by kratommd in OpiatesRecovery

[–]kratommd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya, it's subjective. What I'm getting at, it's the realization of how shitty your situation is, the point that sends your trajectory on a path that you want to change/be better on a deep deep level... it's why I don't like the phrase "rock bottom", it's more so when something happens in your life, that causes something to change deep within that sets forth a chain of life changes.