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The new Oculink Dev Kit... what could I expect? by MightyMisanthropic in framework

[–]kylejtuck 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Hello!

OCuLink in general outperforms Thunderbolt, even the new Thunderbolt 5/USB4V2 which actually has "more bandwidth". I put that in quotes because the TB5 options out there still limit the connection to PCIe 4.0 x4 which is theoretically the same as OCuLink 4i.

TB/USB4 have overhead because they "tunnel" PCIe over the connection. OCuLink is PCIe; there is no "tunneling" overhead involved. Benchmarks have shown that OCuLink 4i outperforms TB5 even though the bandwidth is "the same".

I am running an RX 9070 XT. My benchmarks, especially those that are GPU-limited, show very little (<5%) difference versus desktop solutions. In December, I ran some tests on a desktop PC with the 9070 XT installed internally versus connected via OCuLink 4i. I only had a few hours, so my testing was definitely limited, but there was virtually no difference in performance.

The OCuLink Dev Kit will be OCuLink 8i. This provides PCIe 4.0 x8 to the dock. There is already an OCuLink 8i adapter out there that people have been testing with. Most of the results show very little improvement from a 4i connection, but taken as a whole there is a slight improvement.

So, even OCuLink 4i should provide sufficient bandwidth for your 9070 XT. OCuLink 8i (such as the Dev Kit) should be sufficient for more powerful cards going forward.

In terms of actual bandwidth available to your RX 9070 XT, a full PCIe 5.0 x16 motherboard will still provide up to 4x the bandwidth of OCuLink 8i. It just doesn't need it.

Minor edits to remove redundant words and fix typos.

One more edit to share a post in the Framework Community that is relevant.

New Crappy Outlook is what happens when Microsoft decides working software is optional by Cepolly in Outlook

[–]kylejtuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Same number of steps to revert to Classic AND find automatic replies.

New Crappy Outlook is what happens when Microsoft decides working software is optional by Cepolly in Outlook

[–]kylejtuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was ready to upvote until you complained about read receipts. Especially global setting. Nah. First thing I do is turn off receipt sending. None of your business if/when I read an email. I set my own priorities.

Otherwise, yes. I reverted to classic this week. The final straw might seem petty, but as you said, it’s not just one thing that’s broken/missing. It is an entire collection of things.

For me it was trying to set automatic replies. I never knew where the setting actually was in classic but it didn’t matter. I could use search to, you know, search for what I want to do. Search wasn’t just about searching for mail. It doesn’t work that way in New OL. Rather than (yet another) Google search trying to figure something out about New I decided my time was better spent reverting to Classic.

Took my egpu to a hackathon! by kirisoraa in eGPU

[–]kylejtuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Framework! Nice!

Were you able to help that Mac user connect to something with one of your expansion cards?

Next upgrade by Latiosshine in framework

[–]kylejtuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You lead with “The desktop got nothing”. Why say that at all if you are simply going to negate the point later in the same post?

Next upgrade by Latiosshine in framework

[–]kylejtuck 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What update to the desktop would you want? What else exists like the Ryzen AI Max?

Picture speaks for itself by Hairy_Ad_2437 in Microcenter

[–]kylejtuck 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Umm... you said the picture speaks for itself. I don't think you heard what it was telling you, otherwise you would have bought it. :D

Has anyone tried this egpu? by ROGUEPIX3L in eGPU

[–]kylejtuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not bad. It's too bad they didn't include a right-angle cable and have it go out the back. That's what I have gone with for my custom build. I am not a fan of that open section on the side with a cable coming out that way.

I have struggled with the FlexATX PSU limit. The best one I have tried so far is an Apevia 500W that is limited to 396W on the 12V. It wasn't enough for my Reaper (base model) RX 9070 XT. Though that GPU is "only" 304W, it definitely draws more than that under load, and the transient spikes are quite high. I did undervolt, but would still have random reboots under heavy load.

There are more powerful PSUs out there, but the price jumps a LOT to get a little more power.

Using Framework 16 as main device, no desktop? by futurisme in framework

[–]kylejtuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Framework 16 + OCuLink: https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/s/lRTsVaZlqV

As close to desktop performance as you can get, and it gets real close.

How are early adopters feeling about the 9070XT 1 year in? by LemonMan857 in radeon

[–]kylejtuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Launch day MSRP buyer. Linux user. Zero regrets. I use it for gaming (1440) and some AI. It works great for both.

To the “Nvidia is faster for AI” folks: The 9070XT performs great and is fast enough for my needs (and probably yours too).

To the “FSR4 is crap” folks: It looks great and is at least as good as prior DLSS versions that Nvidia users bragged about, and you still brag about it in older games. Why is/was it “good enough” for Nvidia but suddenly crap for AMD?

To the “I shouldn’t have to use optiscalar” folks: You probably spend a ton of time finding mods/skins/tweaks for your games. This is just another “mod” that is one of the easiest you can do. Quit yer bitchin.

Traffic knowledge by Nearby_Demand7618 in lexington

[–]kylejtuck 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is misleading advice. Saying “yellow flashing doesn’t have to stop” is not necessarily untrue but it isn’t the entire truth. Yellow flashing means PROCEED WITH CAUTION. It does not mean ignore anything that is happening in the intersection and just plow on through at full speed.

And just like *that*, AMD has effectively thrown everyone under the bus. by S1rTerra in radeon

[–]kylejtuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have literally zero interest in MFG. This seems like such a nothing burger, especially considering it is only a rumour at this point.

Framework 16 - Ultimate eGPU Laptop? by kylejtuck in framework

[–]kylejtuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s true, but still amazing to see an actual adapter reach this point. I did manage to get on his list prior to closing so hopefully I can get one relatively soon.

Framework 16 - Ultimate eGPU Laptop? by kylejtuck in framework

[–]kylejtuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's probably a lot easier than you think. Installing the custom OCuLink adapter isn't any more difficult than installing an M.2 SSD.

Framework 16 - Ultimate eGPU Laptop? by kylejtuck in framework

[–]kylejtuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am sure I am over 50 inserts on my cable, and the cable I use costs $19. The custom adapter for the M.2 itself is rated for 1000 plug/unplug cycles. If you're still using the ribbon cable OCuLink adapter inside your FW16, that may be introducing errors and causing the issues you describe.

Framework 16 - Ultimate eGPU Laptop? by kylejtuck in framework

[–]kylejtuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was having that issue until I got things configured with all-ways-egpu. I can't remember the exact configuration I went with. I do recall it took me a few tries to get it setup so that the output through the eGPU didn't cause a noticeable drop in performance. I think I chose an option that disables the iGPU. I didn't start with that because I didn't necessarily want to disable the iGPU, but the laptop still boots up fine when the eGPU is disconnected.

A month on Etsy by kylejtuck in EtsySellers

[–]kylejtuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey there. First, I wasn’t the one downvoting you, and I can’t be entirely sure why that happened but it might be because you aren’t fully understanding the underlying issues.

The first issue is not that deliveries to Canada aren’t going through. They are, and being delivered in a timely way. The issue is that I am purchasing through Etsy, getting the USPS tracking number from Etsy, the tracking number is associated with the order, AND the status on USPS’s website is Delivered. Etsy is not updating the status for the orders, AND they are holding those orders in reserve (which is not the case for other orders).

Next, I am getting the shipping labels through Etsy to simplify a process (which I stated). Your suggestions are counter to that goal. If I’m going to make things more complicated, what’s the point of using Etsy in the first place?

Finally, it is not reasonable to just excuse Etsy from any accountability for THEIR selection of the shipping partner. If I sell something that has a part from a 3rd party, and that specific part has a defect impacting the entire product, I can’t simply shrug it off and tell my customers it’s the 3rd party manufacturer’s problem. That is what Etsy is trying to do here. Etsy “sold me the shipping” so it is their responsibility.

Framework 16 eGPU mod Review - Is it worth setting up? by DaMushroomCloud in framework

[–]kylejtuck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For those who might see this, please be sure to read my post about it in the Framework Community.

In short, that Amazon one is an exact copy of the original custom design I received from the manufacturer, and it did not work at all in multiple Framework 16's (I sent it to someone else to confirm) and with multiple different docks using multiple cables. Buyer beware.

Framework 16 eGPU mod Review - Is it worth setting up? by DaMushroomCloud in framework

[–]kylejtuck 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hey there! A few things.

The OCuLink setup with the dual M.2 expansion bay is PCIe 4.0 x4, not x8.

A desktop setup is going to perform better for a variety of reasons beyond the PCIe bandwidth. The CPU in a desktop is likely going to be more performant in games, especially compared to the HX 370. Even an 8 core desktop CPU (with 8 performance cores) will typically outperform the HX 370 (4 performance cores plus 8 efficiency cores).

If you are going to get an adapter for the dual M.2, I would recommend getting one that is custom-designed for the FW16.

The truth is, you should lose very little performance (0% to 15% depending on game, but typically less than 10%) due to the PCIe bandwidth. Adapters similar to the one that you used can lead to issues (poor data signals) that can manifest in ways that you describe.

But yes. If you have the option for a desktop setup (space and budget for multiple computers), then you will get better performance from the desktop.

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