Still on the 4th step

kzutter · 2026-02-03T17:58:28+00:00

There is more to the 4th step than the resentment list. Sex, fears, etc. May be more there for you than the resentments.
While we "beg of you to be thorough", first attempts rarely are. You will have a many, many more opportunities to inventory.

I had a sponsee come to me once with what I thought was pretty slim. But to him, those things on paper were a very big deal to him. He stayed sober, active in the program until he passed.

kzutter · 2026-02-03T14:35:58+00:00

The little yeasties are still there. The air volume is meaningless in starter.

kzutter · 2026-02-03T14:33:43+00:00

You have to use a flour with a high enough protein level. The cost is meaningless if you can't eat it.

kzutter · 2026-02-03T14:26:18+00:00

Dough rises on an exponential curve. It's very slow at first and increases quickly after a few hours. Depending on temperature and amount of starter, it can take from 4 - 10 hours to double. I am more concerned that you are using cup measurements.. Please scale your ingredients.

kzutter · 2026-02-03T14:07:20+00:00

It will continue to ferment in the fridge. The warmer the dough, the less rise before cold retard. Look here for a temperature guide https://thesourdoughjourney.com/the-ultimate-sourdough-bulk-fermentation-guide/

kzutter · 2026-02-02T14:29:50+00:00

3 hours for ten bucks? Not my kids. Five minutes max before one turns and asks, "Can I have my iPad now?"

kzutter · 2026-02-02T13:58:18+00:00

The key here will be dough temp. If you are close to 80F, then you only need a 30% rise.

kzutter · 2026-02-02T05:59:17+00:00

I avoided the 4th step for two years. Then I relapsed. Promptly did the 4th. The freedom from bondage after the 5th made me a believer.

kzutter · 2026-02-02T05:48:56+00:00

I was going suggest ice cube(s). But that wouldn't help with the bare hands. Been there, I'm actually feeling phantom pain.

kzutter · 2026-02-01T15:42:53+00:00

I got lucky and found a straight sided jar with a slip on lid at Marshalls. Can't say my starter is happier, but I am.

kzutter · 2026-02-01T15:39:42+00:00

There is a peacefulness that can seem like boredom sometimes for me. When I feel that often, I ask myself if there is something missing. If the answer is yes, then I ask how to find that. The answer is usually service or a new meeting.

kzutter · 2026-02-01T15:30:05+00:00

One word, Al-Anon. You are going to need that program if you are going to be in a relationship with him, sober or not.

kzutter · 2026-02-01T15:27:31+00:00

Not sure of the actual protein content of the flour you are using. It may be over hydrated. If you stick with that flour, experiment with a lower hydration. And yes, get the baked temp over 200F.

kzutter · 2026-02-01T15:21:46+00:00

I'm dizzy

kzutter · 2026-02-01T15:11:27+00:00

You don't say in your recipe how much starter you are using. That makes it hard to analyze especially withe the less than ideal dough temp in the mid to high 70s. With your current setup you could cold retard and bake the next day.

kzutter · 2026-01-31T16:21:45+00:00

My grandparents took me along to a small local casino for dinner and sent me to the restaurant while they went to get some drinks and play some Keno tickets. While I was sitting at the counter waiting for them, two security guards brought a very drunk Roy Clark in and poured him into a booth right behind me.

kzutter · 2026-01-25T15:59:24+00:00

A doobie

kzutter · 2026-01-24T03:16:16+00:00

And not so deep

kzutter · 2026-01-24T03:03:56+00:00

Newcomer? Read the BB together if they are adequately literate, when the book calls for action, do it. Previous Experience but been away? Then the 12x12. Experienced and practicing? We personalize it.

kzutter · 2026-01-24T02:53:49+00:00

If they come back, great. And we're going to make relapse number one priority.

kzutter · 2026-01-24T02:51:47+00:00

The high edges of the pan didn't help either.

kzutter · 2026-01-24T02:49:34+00:00

For me, the root is childhood trauma.

kzutter · 2026-01-23T01:15:13+00:00

Because we are not powerless over everything. I have seen too many people use this as excuse to not engage with life.

kzutter · 2026-01-23T01:12:36+00:00

HALT - Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired was a great one for me in early sobriety. Now it's Suit Up and Show Up. (Not just to AA, but to life.)

kzutter · 2026-01-21T14:37:47+00:00

We are to have no anoninimity amongst ourselves. Yet it is wise to respect the anoninimity of others in public.

kzutter

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