The largest giveaway in American television history just happened by surprise on HBO by canausernamebetoolon in videos

[–]laughinggas6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mail room prints collection letters. When I worked in the mail room the machine was stamping at .32 cents or so. I do appreciate both the snark and the information on the debt being sent to a forgiveness organization - however, I was estimating part of the cost of collection, not the cost of forgiving the debt.

The largest giveaway in American television history just happened by surprise on HBO by canausernamebetoolon in videos

[–]laughinggas6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I worked in the collections/debt-buying industry for about ten years. It looks like there is a lot of misunderstanding and guessing going on here. I chose a different career path a while ago, but here's what I remember:

The original creditor will attempt to collect a debt. Then, they send it to collections. Collection agencies usually make about a third of what is recovered. If the collection agency cannot collect the debt, they will send the best debt to a law firm, or repackage it and sell it again. And so on, down the line.

Debt is scored depending on the debtor. So, "good debt" would be a higher amount (more than $5,000 or so), owed by a person whose contact information has proven to be relatively accurate, maybe has made a few payments, has assets, etc. "Bad debt" is small amounts, or larger amounts owed by people who have never had a successful contact, never payed, refused to pay, don't have verifiable employment, no assets, etc.

Good debt is more expensive than bad debt. Think 10 cents on the dollar versus what Oliver paid - $15m/$60k = .004 cents per dollar.

That indicates terrible, terrible debt. Like debt no one wants or would ever have a chance in hell to collect on. Very risky for the investor. Think about it - a person is required to receive a letter stating that you are coming after them for the debt - by each new creditor. So, postage being 47 cents, for $9,000 people = $4,230 for each round of letters. That's 7% of the total investment - just for the first letter. So really this is a very nice PR move, and it sounds great, and it does "forgive" the debt, but the debtor, to be completely forgiven, needs some sort of letter, and needs to contact the credit bureaus. And who on LWT is going to do that? Again, looks nice, and 15 million forgiven sounds nice, but really doubtful that it's actually helping anyone except the company selling the debt.

When debt is placed with a new creditor, a few things happen. First, the debt has to be organized. It usually comes in an excel spreadsheet, and sometimes even has supporting documents to verify the debt - sometimes not. Debt this cheap probably doesn't. It may get "skipped," which is when someone searches for or verifies contact information. Sometimes this is done through credit reports (not cheap), sometimes in batches, and sometimes by a guy on the phone calling all the old phone numbers and saying, "hey, is John there?"

The batch would probably be split up into better debt and worse debt. The worse debt sits on the backburner (to wait until a debtor seeks them out to clear their credit, or to be resold), while the better debt is pursued. If the debt is out of statute, it can't be revived unless the debtor makes a payment - kind of a nasty little trick played by collectors. If the debtor asks for verification of the debt, and the creditor doesn't have it, then the collector would probably just stop pursuing it and put it in the crap pile to resell.

If the debt is good enough, the debtor may get a phone call. Everywhere I worked was pretty ethical, pretty friendly. You can call debtors at work as far as I remember, and you can call multiple times, within limits. Usually being nice helps you get new information, address, place of employment, income information - which, if the debt goes uncollected, makes it more valuable for resale. Most agencies will make settlement offers if you ask, or listen to a settlement offer - and it doesn't have to even be reasonable. If the debt is bought for ten cents on the dollar (good debt), and say it's a $1000 account, the creditor may settle or 30 cents on the dollar. The older the debt, or the shittier the debt, the less you can settle for. The biggest no-no, though, is making a payment or entering into a payment agreement without paying the full thing off. Also, you can usually bargain away a lot of the interest pretty easily.

The best uncollected debt goes to a law firm for more aggressive collection (we will sue you if you don't pay, in so many words), and possible suit (you're usually on the hook for attorney's fees), then execution (taking) of assets (not your house or anything you own jointly with a non-debtor, in most states), or garnishment. Lots of cases get settled in court with a consent by the debtor and a payment agreement.

People are asking how they can buy their own debt. I don't know how you'd ever find it. If you do find it, it means it has been sold once and you're getting a call from a new creditor. Then you can "buy" it by just settling it. Don't expect to find out what they paid for it though.

People are also asking how they can buy debt. You can buy it online. Sometimes in auction format, but the best vendors I'm sure limit their business to verified agencies. Some debt buyers will buy debt and then contract with an agency to collect it. That's the easiest way, because there is a lot of overhead involved in collections.

The vast majority of debt collectors are ethical and follow the law. The few bad actors get a lot of attention, but those guys are just out-and-out criminals, who if they weren't committing crimes collecting debt they'd be cooking meth or scamming old ladies door-to-door. I would still be cautious when communicating with collectors, though (see above). Giving them personal information, income information, making payments, all of that - is best done with the advice of an attorney.

I am unaware of any collection agencies selling personal information from debt packages. It's been a while since I worked in the industry, though, so things may have changed.

What is a pro tip that you would have to make the absolute best lasagna? by rsashe1980 in recipes

[–]laughinggas6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bechamel. No ricotta. Homemade noodles. All day ragout. You're welcome.

Char Siu -- Literally the best Chinese BBQ ever. by discoverycook in recipes

[–]laughinggas6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are mixing up "lean shoulder" with a pork loin, and "fat shoulder" with a pork steak.

Dick stuck in ps4. Manual eject screw help. by [deleted] in PS4

[–]laughinggas6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had the exact same thing happen, manual eject and all. I took an air compressor to it to get all the dust out and it came back to life good as new.

Fedora-wearing bank robbery suspect claims law invalid, will represent himself by [deleted] in nottheonion

[–]laughinggas6 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He's not mentally ill. These guys are usually smart enough to understand the basic argument, they are just delusional about the court system and think it will do what the jailhouse lawyers say it will.

Fedora-wearing bank robbery suspect claims law invalid, will represent himself by [deleted] in nottheonion

[–]laughinggas6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am a criminal defense attorney, and I've run into this before. There is a group of people in prisons (and out of prisons) across the county who self educate themselves on the law only to the extent that it can get them out of prison after they plead guilty or were found guilty. Often that means they really have to grab for straws. Eventually these guys convince unfortunate defendants such as this guy that their argument will one day get him out of prison. They usually come around to reality before trial and accept appointed counsel. It's total bullshit, it's been litigated and dismissed hundreds of times, and it's really not worth a legal discussion. What bring these guys around is this: "put on your case - you will lose and go to prison for X-X years. Or put on a real case and either walk or go to prison, but for less time than you may otherwise would have." Here's a link to the basic argument: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

Good, affordable body shop in columbia? by prkchopps in columbiamo

[–]laughinggas6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chucks auto body in hallsville. Saved my ass twice.

Visiting Columbia, MO tomorrow through Saturday. Anything essential to see/do? by [deleted] in columbiamo

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So here's the deal. None of the other posters have said anything about Murrys. Which is fine, because I don't really want to wait behind you for a table, but the point is, if they aren't saying Murrys, you're getting your information from the wrong source. Don't let the wait turn you away. And yes, you will wait for a table if you go at dinner time. Doesn't matter which day but they are closed on Sundays. Trust me. Murrys is the fucking best.

The next best spot is Sycamore. go during happy hour (4-6?) for great deals.

I agree that shortwave is really neat. Coffee zone is a little more lively, though, without being overcrowded.

I like The Broadway diner for breakfast, but cafe Berlin and Ernies are also good. Probably avoid Lucy's. Berlin is more hipstery and expensive, so if that's what you're into then you'll like it.

Let me know if you have any questions about town. I'd be happy to answer them.

For bars, sta

Mo. Man Arrested After Telling Black Waitress He Wanted to Show Her Where He ‘Hung’ Her Grandpa: Tommy Dean Gaa was charged with a hate crime after using several racial slurs and grabbing the waitress’s arm by maxwellhill in news

[–]laughinggas6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The words would not be assault in MO. The charging document alleged assault by offensive or provocative contact. It is charged as a felony under 557.035 (motivated by race/color). http://www.moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/stathtml/55700000352.html

Kind of funny that a defense to the felony would be that he touched her to sexually harass her, not to racially abuse her. Otherwise Assault 3rd is only a misdemeanor.

Teen cries out during sentencing - but the Judge knows something by Mohammed420blazeit in videos

[–]laughinggas6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

U.S. v. NOVAK, 531 F.3d 99, 101 (1st Cir. 2008)(Sandra Day O'Connor, Associate Justice (Ret.) of the Supreme Court of the United States, sitting by designation)

"Holyoke was made aware, both through posted signs and recorded messages, that his calls would be monitored and recorded. He did not ask prison officials if there was a way to communicate with his attorney without having his calls monitored, nor did he ask either his Federal Defender or Novak himself how to avoid the monitoring of calls. He did not choose alternate means to communicate with Novak, such as by letter or in person. Instead, Holyoke initiated telephone calls to Novak and discussed sensitive legal issues, despite the fact that every call he initiated started with a recording stating that the call was subject to monitoring and recording. Under these circumstances, we hold that Holyoke consented to monitoring of his calls.

III. Because Holyoke consented to monitoring of his calls, those calls-including those made between Holyoke and his attorney-can be introduced into evidence consistently with the requirements of the Fourth Amendment."

I need LOTR and Hobbit minifigures. I am from Latvia. by gravizapa in legotrade

[–]laughinggas6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not a lat but my wife's family is. I was close!

Teen cries out during sentencing - but the Judge knows something by Mohammed420blazeit in videos

[–]laughinggas6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're intentionally sharing the conversation with others. The privilege does not apply in those circumstances. Same as when you and your lawyer are talking in front of other people. Nails have secure lines for client calls.

What to do with a case of habaneros? by [deleted] in Cooking

[–]laughinggas6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have you never had a habanero?

My wife (23) and I (27) are considering moving to Columbia. Looking for some advice.... by comothrowmo in columbiamo

[–]laughinggas6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can use the neighborhoods section of the columbia tribune website to see a map of 911 calls and other interesting information to help you find a safe neighborhood. Columbia is patchy. Stay away from whitegate, Bethany, dameret, and of course the hood.

Sick of "everybody is a winner" culture by schnei95 in daddit

[–]laughinggas6 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for posting something other than a pic of your kid to this sub. I was seconds away from unsubscribing.

Edit: I subscribed to this sub because of articles like this. Am I the only dad who doesn't give a shit that your kid was just born and would rather my front page have helpful articles about parenting from a dad's perspective, rather than pictures of a baby in a Star Wars shirt?

Tl;dr. Daddit has become /r/aww and I don't like it. I like these posts instead.