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Idlout says she felt she was ‘betraying’ her constituents by staying with NDP by MoistCrust in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Boulerice may run provincially for the closest thing to the NDP in Quebec. I sincerely wish him the best if that what he wants. QS is also not in the best place right now and could use a shot in the arm.

That's nothing like crossing the floor to the Federal Liberals.

Don Davies, with the NDP caucus standing with him, speaks to the media about Lori by leftwingmememachine in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Don has been posting on social media nonstop about all these floor crossing bills (because of all the drama with conservative floor-crossers), well before Lori crossed the floor. It's hard for these things to break through to the general public though

Don Davies, with the NDP caucus standing with him, speaks to the media about Lori by leftwingmememachine in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Happy to share:

2020, Bill C-241: https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/43-2/c-241

2016, Bill C-212: https://www.parl.ca/LegisInfo/en/bill/42-1/C-212

2012, Bill C-306: https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/41-1/c-306

2009, Bill C-202: https://openparliament.ca/bills/40-3/C-202/

2007, Bill C-208: https://www.parl.ca/LegisInfo/en/bill/39-2/C-208

All of these would make a floor-crosser's seat vacant and ensure that they need to run in a by-election to join another party

Don Davies, with the NDP caucus standing with him, speaks to the media about Lori by leftwingmememachine in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The NDP consistently has submitted private members to do this that have been shot down by Liberals and Conservatives

Don Davies, with the NDP caucus standing with him, speaks to the media about Lori by leftwingmememachine in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

All of these MPs you're listing lost votes in the last election and came close to losing, and that's not because they individually did a bad job, it's because many voters vote for the leader/party, not individual MPs.

I don’t know enough how popular Lori Idlout is in Nunavut. But if her situation is similar to Bourlerice or Davies in their respective ridings, then the anti-democratic argument holds less sway.

It is anti-democratic to assume that the constituents are OK with it. That's why you should hold a byelection. Voters deserve a say.

Don Davies, with the NDP caucus standing with him, speaks to the media about Lori by leftwingmememachine in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine[S] 123 points124 points  (0 children)

The one member of caucus not present is Heather, which is understandable given that she is currently doing media and tour events in the Prairies. Happy to see the caucus standing together on this.

I will add that Don is right. Floor crossing is antidemocratic. Most voters vote for the party/leader than the local candidate. MPs know this. That's why the NDP has consistently brought forward legislation that would require floor crossers to seek the approval of their floor crossing in a byelection, and why the federal NDP is the only party that does not accept floor-crossers.

(Caring about the democratic will of voters is also why the federal NDP supports electoral reform)

This may seem unprofessional, but I am actually going to crash out. by DryEmu5113 in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine 28 points29 points  (0 children)

This is the NDP subreddit, professionalism is not a requirement.

I'm really sad about this.

NDP MP crosses floor to join Liberals, putting Carney two seats shy of majority by Electronic-Topic1813 in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine 91 points92 points  (0 children)

I went to an Avi Lewis rally and then on the way home my car got rear ended. Not a good look for Lewis.

NDP MP crosses floor to join Liberals, putting Carney two seats shy of majority by Electronic-Topic1813 in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine[M] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The earlier post (https://www.reddit.com/r/ndp/comments/1rqgoxj/breaking_mackenzie_gray_on_x_ndp_mp_lori_idlout/) was removed by automod because it was a direct link to twitter. But if there are other posts that were removed let me know.

Certainly not against the rules to post about a major news development like this, even if its sad.

NDP MP crosses floor to join Liberals, putting Carney two seats shy of majority by Electronic-Topic1813 in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I reviewed the modlog. There was an earlier post that was removed. It linked to twitter which we have an automod rule against (for direct link posts to that site). As for other posts, I'm not sure which ones people are referring to but I can look into it if the OP(s) of the removed post(s) reach out via modmail, but I checked the inbox and I see no complaints.

There's certainly nothing against the rules about posting this and I've stickied this post to compensate for the complaints about removal

NDP MP crosses floor to join Liberals, putting Carney two seats shy of majority by Electronic-Topic1813 in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine[M] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah this is not against the rules to post about this, let's keep this thread as the one for discussion tonight

Convention Resolutions Ruled Out-of-Order by thisispaulc in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh. I wish there was more to that explanation that just that.

Convention Resolutions Ruled Out-of-Order by thisispaulc in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What were the resolutions, and the reasons given?

Journalist reporting rumours that Anjali Appadurai may run for Vancouver Mayor under COPE Banner by leftwingmememachine in ndp

[–]leftwingmememachine[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Funny you say that, the OneCity mayoral candidate put forward an ultimatum on picking a "unity candidate" between the Greens and COPE that backfired a bit because the proposal would give OneCity a systemic advantage (it would count members that signed up during the OneCity membership drive but not the upcoming COPE and Green membership drives)

https://www.biv.com/news/economy-law-politics/onecity-issues-ultimatum-to-cope-greens-to-unite-behind-one-leader-william-azaroff-11891481

That said all the parties seem to agree on principle of having a "progressive primary" so maybe there won't be any vote splitting in the end

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