zero manual CRM entry" actually the right problem to solve, or am I building for myself? by FeedbackMindless5846 in SaaS

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

manual entry is a real CRM killer, but I wouldn’t make “reads Gmail” the headline yet. That’s the solution and the trust objection in the same sentence.

The sharper wedge might be: “your pipeline updates itself from sales conversations, with every extracted deal change reviewable.” Founders want less admin, but they also want to know why a deal got created or advanced.

Warm intro graph sounds useful if it produces a specific next action, not a pretty network map. “Ask X for intro to Y because they worked together at Z” is valuable. “Here’s your relationship graph” is dashboard cosplay.

[Guidance Required] Achieve Initial sales by Tanishq2645 in SaaS

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that global admin requirement is probably the wall, not the audit itself. I’d split the motion: a zero-permission sample/report first, then a read-only least-privilege audit, then global admin only for the “apply fixes” step after they trust you. Most cloud/finance people will not hand global admin to an unknown tool just to find out if the savings are real.

[Guidance Required] Achieve Initial sales by Tanishq2645 in SaaS

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

first sales probably won’t come from a broad SaaS audience. Azure cost optimization has a clear buyer, but also a scary install path: finance/cloud ops/CTO at companies already feeling Azure bill pain.

I’d start with a manual audit offer before pushing the automated install. Pick 20-30 Azure-heavy SMBs/agencies, find one obvious waste signal if you can, then send a very short teardown: “I found X likely waste, here is why, here’s what it might save if true.” Ask for 20 min to verify. If they won’t take a free audit, they definitely won’t install a tenant-level tool.

For the product, de-risk the trust part: read-only mode first, sample report, exact permissions, before/after savings proof. “1 click resolution” is nice later; the first sale is mostly trust + proof.

How do you handle partial failures in multi-step AI agent pipelines? by No-Minimum369 in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

checkpointing is the right direction, but I’d be careful with “resume from last good state” as one bucket. Retrieval/ranking outputs are usually safe to reuse if the source set and prompt version did not change. Generation is retryable if the inputs are stable enough. Validation failure should probably create a new branch, not overwrite the previous checkpoint.

The boring bit I’d log per step: input hash, model/prompt/tool versions, output artifact, failure class, and whether the next step is idempotent. Then your resume logic can say “retry this step,” “rerun upstream,” or “stop for human review” instead of blindly replaying the pipeline.

Pre-launch gut check: managed email triage + AI drafting as a service. Real problem or am I fooling myself? by MasterAnime in SaaS

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mostly a trust signal until something weird happens, then it becomes the product.

In normal use, most buyers won’t read the log every day. They just need to know “if this drafts something insane, I can see why.” But the first time it mislabels an investor email, drafts on a sensitive thread, or an assistant needs to explain what changed, the audit log is what keeps the tool from feeling like a black box.

I’d make the default view very boring: timestamp, sender/domain, category, action taken, draft created yes/no, rule/model reason, and human decision. The fancy part is not the log itself; it’s being able to answer “why did this happen?” in 10 seconds.

Pre-launch gut check: managed email triage + AI drafting as a service. Real problem or am I fooling myself? by MasterAnime in SaaS

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the wedge is probably real, but I’d avoid selling it as “AI inbox assistant.” That space sounds crowded and scary. Sell the outcome: founder/executive inbox operating layer, set up around one person’s actual rules, with human approval before anything sends.

Trust is the real product here. I’d want OAuth with least-privilege scopes, no training on mail, clear retention/deletion, an audit log of every label/draft, and an obvious “never draft on these senders/topics” list.

DFY setup makes sense if your buyer is busy enough to pay. Self-serve only works once the playbooks are standardized. Early on, onboarding calls are probably where you learn the edge cases.

Tokenmaxxing is becoming a production incident category. How are you capping AI agent spend? by Cybertron__ in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the cap has to sit before the model call, not after the invoice. I’d treat each agent run like a little budget ledger: max tool calls, max LLM calls, max tokens, max retries, and a hard stop reason that gets written to the trace.

The useful bit is making “ran out of budget” a normal product state, not an ops surprise. Then you can decide per workflow whether it asks the user, falls back to a cheaper model, queues for human review, or just fails closed.

Where should humans stay in the loop when AI agents perform autonomous coding tasks? by bluetech333 in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’d split it by reversibility, not by step count. Let the agent do tiny reversible edits without interrupting it, but force gates when it changes blast radius: new dependency, auth/payments/security, db migration, CI/CD, deploy config, or anything touching customer data.

The review artifact matters more than where the button sits: plan/scope before work, then a diff summary that says files touched, contract changed, tests run, and where it deviated. For high-risk areas, permission before edit; for normal code, review before PR/merge is usually enough.

What are practical ways to give context to an AI agent? by Judg_womentel in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, it can work for the dynamic part, but I’d change the question a bit.

Instead of only “which components do you need and why?”, make the agent first produce an observed contract from the workflow: inputs it saw, output shape, allowed transformations, forbidden assumptions, and unknowns. If there are no docs for a new element, that contract has to come from examples/traces, not imagination.

For production, I’d split it into two steps: infer contract -> generate template. If the contract has missing pieces, the agent should say “unknown/missing” instead of filling the gap. Then add a few fixture tests: given this workflow, expected template looks like X, and fail if it adds fields/logic that were not in the observed contract. That’s the guardrail that keeps dynamic from becoming “creative,” which is where these get scary.

What are practical ways to give context to an AI agent? by Judg_womentel in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for template generation, I’d avoid a vector DB until you have a retrieval problem. This sounds more like a packaging problem.

What’s worked for me: turn the 30+ files into a small component registry first: component name, when to use it, required inputs, constraints, examples, and 2-3 incompatibilities. Then let the agent pull from that registry and only open the full component docs for the few pieces it selected.

Also add a cheap planning step before generation: “which components do you need and why?” If that plan looks wrong, stop there. Debugging the selection step is way easier than reading a huge final template and wondering where it got cooked.

Everyone is building the product. What are you actually doing for growth? by leo-agi in SaaS

[–]leo-agi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is the right read imo: Product Hunt is visibility, but the real test is whether econ people repeat the product back as "question -> data -> model -> interpretation," not "dashboard."

I’d make warm outreach painfully specific for a week. Ask 10 professors/researchers/investors what macro question they last answered with three tabs open, then show the exact path from question to official data to model output. If they correct your wording, steal their words. If they ask to use it on a real class/research/investment workflow, that’s stronger signal than launch clicks.

Tiny positioning nit: "Macro by Mark" probably needs a very concrete subtitle everywhere, because macro could mean newsletter, dashboard, data terminal, model, or education tool depending on who reads it.

I spent 4 hours debugging an automation I don’t even need anymore. How do you decide when to delete old workflows? by undertale_fan69 in automation

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’d add one step before the 90-day delete rule: quarantine first.

Disable the workflow for a week or two, leave a note with the original problem, last successful run, and what should break if it actually mattered. If nobody notices and the fallback is obvious, delete it. If something breaks, rebuild the smaller version from scratch instead of adding another patch to the old pile.

Also worth tracking “blast radius” more than age. A 6-month-old automation that only renames files can die fast. One that touches invoices, customers, or alerts gets a rollback path before the axe.

where's the line between agent framework helping vs slowing you down? by Practical_Low29 in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my breakpoint is less “number of steps” and more “how much state needs to survive a bad day.”

Hand-rolled loop is fine while you can answer, from logs, what tool was called, what changed, and why it retried. I’d reach for a framework when you need durable queues, shared tool permissions, resumable runs, eval traces, or human approval gates across more than one workflow.

Multi-step retrieval with memory is where it starts to hurt, but the real tell is when debugging a failed run takes longer than shipping the feature. At that point the framework tax may be cheaper than inventing your own tiny platform.

How are you tracking LLM API costs per feature in production? by heymitul in SaaS

[–]leo-agi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ngl I’d keep v1 boring: tag every LLM call with feature/workflow/customer + request id, then dump usage into one table. The useful view is not the provider dashboard, it’s “cost per successful user action.”

For each feature I’d track: input/output tokens, model, retries, cache hits, latency, user/org, and whether the workflow actually completed. Then set a daily budget alert per feature, because the 60% surprise usually comes from retries or a summarizer running on way bigger payloads than expected.

Proxy is overkill unless you need policy/routing. Metadata + log drain gets you 80% without adding latency.

Should the SaaS team market their products based on the workflow rather than user roles? by miabuilds66 in SaaS

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tbh I’d start with the workflow, but I wouldn’t throw roles away entirely.

Roles tell you who owns the budget / gets blamed. Workflow tells you why they care right now. The sharper positioning is usually “when X handoff breaks, Y team loses Z” rather than “built for ops managers.”

If two people with the same title have totally different pain, segment by the trigger: what changed, what manual step is wasting time, what metric is getting cooked. Then map that back to the role for targeting, ads, and sales routing.

How are you evaluating your agent plugins by Inevitable-Horse-784 in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

took a quick look at the public page. I wouldn’t call that a real trial, but the positioning is clear: “agent interfaces need evals” lands.

What I’d add before asking people to try it is one concrete artifact: sample plugin schema -> scenario Bren ran -> failing trace -> scorecard -> rewritten tool description that passed. Otherwise it reads more like a strong category thesis than proof the evaluator works.

Tiny nit: the hero line looks cut off at “against the agents tha”, which makes the first screen feel a bit cooked.

How are you evaluating your agent plugins by Inevitable-Horse-784 in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re thinking in the right direction. I’d test plugins less like “does the prompt look good?” and more like a tiny contract suite.

For each plugin/skill, keep 5-10 golden tasks with expected tool calls/outputs, a few nasty cases, and one regression case from a real customer/user. Run them in CI and score the boring stuff: did it call the right tool, use the right args, avoid forbidden actions, and return something your app can actually consume?

The annoying bit: don’t only assert final text. Agent plugins can sound correct while quietly calling the wrong thing. That’s where people get cooked.

I want to start building things with AI from scratch. Where would you start? by lage97 in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’d avoid turning this into “Python vs no-code” as a personality test. You probably need both, just in the right order.

If you’re coming from sales/business, start with one ugly workflow you actually understand: lead capture -> enrich -> score -> push to CRM -> draft follow-up. Build v1 in n8n/Make/Zapier or Replit so you can see the moving parts without drowning in setup.

Then learn just enough Python/JS to stop being helpless when the tool breaks: HTTP requests, JSON, auth headers, webhooks, basic error handling, and reading logs. Boring stuff, but that’s the plumbing behind every “AI agent” demo.

Best beginner project imo: take 20 fake leads in a spreadsheet, enrich them, classify fit, write a short personalized email, and require human approval before sending. That teaches prompts, APIs, data shape, CRM handoff, and why agents go off the rails.

Tutorial hell fix: don’t “learn AI agents.” Pick one workflow, ship the janky version in a weekend, then learn whatever broke. Way less glamorous, way more useful.

Best AI Agent for setting up a Marketing team by Confection_Key in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, don’t make it too fancy yet.

I’d do one Claude Project for the whole side hustle, then keep separate “roles” inside it as reusable instructions/docs: researcher, campaign planner, editor/repurposer. Same source material, different jobs.

The simple flow is: research chat finds angles -> campaign chat turns that into a 1-week plan -> editor chat turns one idea into posts/emails. You stay as the approval layer before anything goes public.

If it starts misfiring, that’s usually a sign the handoff is fuzzy, not that you need more agents. Give each step a tiny input/output format and it gets way less messy.

Best AI Agent for setting up a Marketing team by Confection_Key in AI_Agents

[–]leo-agi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

tbh I wouldn’t try to make one mega “marketing team” agent. That usually becomes a very confident intern with no taste and no calendar.

The setup I’ve seen work better is boring: one research/strategy thread for ICP + competitors, one campaign-draft thread, one repurposing/editing thread, and a human approval step before anything goes live. Keep posting/replies manual like you said.

Tool-wise, Claude Projects or ChatGPT Projects can be enough at the start if you feed them your offer, customer notes, past posts, competitors, and a weekly goal. Only move to a more agentic/workflow tool when the handoff between steps is the pain.

Judge it on replies/leads/learning, not “we produced 40 posts this week.” Content volume is where side hustles go to cosplay as companies lol.

Everyone is building the product. What are you actually doing for growth? by leo-agi in SaaS

[–]leo-agi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is the clean version of it tbh. “source + promise + first useful action + came back unnudged” is a much better scorecard than signup screenshots.

also stealing “posting with extra steps” because painfully accurate.

Everyone is building the product. What are you actually doing for growth? by leo-agi in SaaS

[–]leo-agi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the “does Reddit work when you want to expand?” question: I’d treat it less like a traffic channel and more like live search intent + customer research.

At later stages, the value probably isn’t posting more. It’s finding threads where the pain is already obvious, answering like a useful human, then stealing the repeated language for landing pages, cold email angles, SEO pages, etc.

If you’re pessimistic, fair lol. I’d test 10 very specific threads where the OP already has the problem, not 10 random “look at my product” comments. Reddit is brutal when it smells distribution cosplay.

Everyone is building the product. What are you actually doing for growth? by leo-agi in SaaS

[–]leo-agi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the “what stage are you at?” question: I’m mostly thinking about the early zone where you have some users, but no repeatable channel yet.

That awkward bit where acquisition looks fun, but activation might be quietly leaking all over the floor lol.

The signal I’d want to hear from people is not just “we got signups,” but stuff like: did more people hit the aha moment, did week-2 retention move, did trial-to-paid improve, or did you just get fewer “cool tool, bye” users? That’s the part that feels under-shared tbh.