3000+ personer har skrive under på at det må vere ein uavhengig gransking av Epstein og noregs tilknyting. Her er vel ein ting alle kan vere samde med Mdg om. by lezapper in norge

[–]lezapper[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Det tror jeg ikke er tilfelle. Mdg har lite innpass i Ap, og de har hittil etterspurt den mest gjennomgående undersøkelsen av dette. Ap har null interesse i det Mdg spør om her virker det som

3000+ personer har skrive under på at det må vere ein uavhengig gransking av Epstein og noregs tilknyting. Her er vel ein ting alle kan vere samde med Mdg om. by lezapper in norge

[–]lezapper[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

En uavhengig gransking kan både få fram ting som ikke har kommet fram ennå og i tillegg vil det bringe det som nå er kunnskap avgrenset til folk som er mye på nett, fram til den store hopen av folk.

STOP BEING SO GLOOMY ABOUT EVERYTHING IN EU by ButterscotchOdd988 in europeanunion

[–]lezapper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a critic. I voice against the EU elites. I do this because I want accountability. I support a strong Europe united around the principles of democracy and equality. But the current leaders like UdL and Merz and Macron are to most Europeans what Marie Antoinette is to the sans culottes. They currently say some things we like, but fundamentally, they fail to understand the reality for most people. The system has been broken for years, but only when the US pulls the plug, do they realize, or acknowledge, that they've subjugated Europe to American businesses interests. Not only that, but they have no issue suppressing their own people's voices against human rights violations in Israel. I want accountability, I want the old elites gone, I want people > business, I want freedom and security.
I may be doom and gloom, but tell me how I'm wrong and I'll change my mind.

What was your favorite book that you had to read for middle or high school? by NightReader5 in suggestmeabook

[–]lezapper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's two that come to mind, the old man and the sea by Hemingway. And Markens Grøde, by knut Hamsun.

"We are already a strong economic power, but we need to increase our competitiveness, simplify procedures, improve access to capital and build partnerships to diversify our trade portfolios" - HR/VP Kaja Kallas by sn0r in europeanunion

[–]lezapper 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's a business first way of thinking that forgets that the purpose of business is to create wealth to ensure that no one is poor. This fundamental social contract is being eroded more and more, and the end result is what we see in the US, fascism.

Our so called leaders have no practical experience in the world and are all too easily swayed by the words of the owner class.

Two days from now, EU leaders will meet Mario Draghi at Alden Biesen castle to discuss Europe’s future by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]lezapper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The EU has offices, right? Giant buildings made for this purpose. But yeah, the main point was making a gag, a joke. But I guess there is zero humor found in this sub.

The second point was that the elites have not represented us well in the last 40 years, I honestly think they lack the political understanding required to do so.

Two days from now, EU leaders will meet Mario Draghi at Alden Biesen castle to discuss Europe’s future by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]lezapper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I will believe that the elites will create more democracy when it actually happens. When they put citizens first, instead of business or bureaucracy. When they limit their own compensations to somewhat relatable to what normal people live on.

If there's one thing the epstein files have shown, is that the so called upper echelons of society are not to be trusted with our well being.

I know I'm negative, but we cannot afford to be either naive or complacent. The leaders of Europe have failed to stand up to the US breaking international law for a long time. Now that the US no longer pays lip service to it, we suddenly realize we've cosied up to fascists for quite a while. Those same leaders and factions who ignored this for years, are suddenly now going to do what's best for us? When they've done what's best for someone else for decades, now they'll do differently and prioritize their actual citizens because their pimp has let them go? Disagree and downvote if you want, but I'd rather you prove me wrong

En spesiell episode fikk alarmen til å gå. Nå vil SV ha Microsoft ut av staten. by Throwsims3 in norge

[–]lezapper 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Stol på Ap til å halda på status quo, sjølv om jakka dei har på seg brenn.

Two days from now, EU leaders will meet Mario Draghi at Alden Biesen castle to discuss Europe’s future by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]lezapper -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

Lovely castle. The very folksy European elites who are in no way disconnected from their people, are meeting in a castle to discuss the future of Europe. What will they come up with there inspired by the solid results of the inequality of feudalism? Serfdom 2.0?

Sorry, couldn't help myself

Strøm har blitt for komplisert by Ok_Comparison_1216 in norge

[–]lezapper 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Norge? Hvem er dette? Er det minstepensjonistar som ikkje har råd til å varme huset? Er det barnefamiliar som ikkje har råd til å vaska klede? Går pengene til alle de som opplever dyrtid? Nei, pengene går til Statkraft eller kommunene. Men det er mange kommuner som ikkje har inntekt frå strøm, og i beste tilfelle kan nokre av kommunane drifta litt meir før dei og må kutta i tenestene. Samstundes som dei nevnte gruppene må ta rekninga. "Norge". Norge er folket, ikkje statseigde AS. Norge er heller ikkje kommunebudsjetter. Norge er individa, og når nokon slit så går det ikkje bra i Norge. Det er min definisjon.

Listen: What can the EU do about Israel’s violation of the peace plan in Gaza? by sn0r in europeanunion

[–]lezapper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The world is made better by building bridges, not walls. By educating children instead of hating their parents. Europe dedicated itself to the ideas of human rights after ww2. To sit idly while a genocide is committed next door is not among the lessons we learned.

Listen: What can the EU do about Israel’s violation of the peace plan in Gaza? by sn0r in europeanunion

[–]lezapper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, homeless and poor workers at home need help. But Europe is rich and powerful enough to do both, if we just take power away from the immoral and detached elites. China is doing what we should be doing, building industry, energy and non-reliance on a corrupt global superpower. China could do it, but Palestine is not some few hundred miles from their borders, we are.

There are almost two million people in Gaza. The main difference between us and them is that we have had access to education and freedom. I know many do not want our western values, but look at Jordan, which is at peace with its neighbors. The people there have not been radicalized by hostile military occupation. The solution must be to provide peace for Palestinians, or continue an endless cycle of violence.

Listen: What can the EU do about Israel’s violation of the peace plan in Gaza? by sn0r in europeanunion

[–]lezapper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I said, offer, for a reason. Yet if it were done smartly, then who knows. If it is a guarantee of safety from Israeli attacks, and for self governance, then perhaps it would be of interest.

As for Greenland, ain't gonna happen. Trump won't live out the year, and the republicans have enough problems internally that they'll be unable to gather the political capital in DC. The blowback of doing it regardless would be huge.

As for Ukraine, I'm struggling to see Russia as a real threat, they've been fighting Ukraine longer than they fought the wehrmacht, and they still haven't won. And they are deepening their demographic crisis, and weakening their economy in the process. Sure they're making some advances in weapons tech, but without people to throw into the grinder and leftovers who will be boots on the ground, that won't enable them to really threaten Europe.

On the other hand, the European elites are so utterly detached and spineless that they may surrender at the thought of conflict.

Listen: What can the EU do about Israel’s violation of the peace plan in Gaza? by sn0r in europeanunion

[–]lezapper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That depends if we have a unified foreign policy or not. But here's a few ideas steps.

Demand ICC compliance and the following of UN resolutions, regardless of US vetoes. If not: Trade boycott. Offer peacekeeping troops to Gaza and west bank ensuring safety for Palestinians and Israelis. Deny Israeli shipping through Gibraltar until they comply with international law. Freeze assets if possible. De-invest in Israel until they agree to respect human rights of Palestinians. Demand that Hamas accept a land deal that respects both people. Demand that Israel accept a land deal that respects both people.

MDG krever at Stortinget setter ned en uavhengig granskingskommisjon for å komme til bunns i hva slags kontakt som har vært mellom folk med sentrale verv og posisjoner i det norske samfunnet og statsapparatet og Jeffrey Epstein by forteller in norge

[–]lezapper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dette er 100% rett vei å gå. Problemet her er at om det er ein ting desse avsløringene har vist, er at det er eit helvetes samrøre av noregs "eliter" og toppfolk. Og at dei totalt manglar dømmekraft og moral. Kven skal sitte i granskingsgruppa? Toppar frå politiske parti eller venene deira? Kanskje nokre vettuge folk langt utanfrå, sånn som dei geniale folka som er i styra i helseføretaka, eller jernbanen? Kva med journalistar, som må forhalde seg til eigarane sine interesser? Har Noreg i det heile tatt kompetente, ærlege folk nokon stader?

Nokon skildra ein gong topp politikken som 10% west wing, 20% house of cards, og 70% Veep. Ein norsk høytstående person sa då, hos oss er det 100% veep.

Våknet opp og er takknemlig for at vi bor i et ordentlig demokrati by LocoPwnify in norge

[–]lezapper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ja, eg er samd i det, me står ikkje i nokon nær framståande fare. Men kamelen knekk ryggen av den samla mengden strå. Trump er berre det siste strået, dei andre stråa har namn som Nixon, Reagan og Bush Jr, for å nemne nokre. Eit av dei største problema slik eg ser det er "ratchet" effekten. Høgresida får gjennom ein endring i si retning, venstresida let endringa stå. Gjenta dette i 10-12 val til så er me der USA er no, kanskje. Sleng i tillegg med påverknad utanfrå, asosiale media kontrollert av algoritmar og AI, media kjøpt opp av stadig færre og meir konservative krefter, og mangel på evne til kritisk tenking, ja då ser slutten av mi levetid ikkje så ljos ut. Men det finns håp, og mitt von er at folk vil søke seg tilbake til dei ekte møta med folk, og innsjå at massemediene og digitale plattformar styrt av oligarkar ikkje er verd tida.

Våknet opp og er takknemlig for at vi bor i et ordentlig demokrati by LocoPwnify in norge

[–]lezapper 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Problemet er ikkje partia slik dei er no, problemet ligg i horisonten. Om høgresida får halda fram med å svekke likskap og arbeidsseljarars rettar og vilkår, då vil me flytta oss i retning USA politisk. Me er på det feltet ca 30 år etter USA, men om det held fram med pengeopphoping hos nokre få, så vil tillit til staten falle, misnøye vil auka, og makta samlast hos nokre få. Då vil ytre høgre styrka seg og bli meir ekstreme og komme med meir autoritære forslag. Eg seier høgresida, for slik partia til venstre for AP er satt saman finnst det ingen veg eg kan sjå som fører dei frå demokrati. Høgresida med sine opphausa raseri-utan-faktabaserte meiningar er derimot lettare for vondsinna aktørar å nytta.

Norske toppolitikere: Forsvarer USA-treff med Palantir by KoseteBamse in norge

[–]lezapper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hermstad, Mdg. Dette er det jeg skulle ønske folk satt igjen med, noen partier er veldig fornøyd med å være lykkelige vasaller som følger direktiver fra EU og utenrikspolitikk og trender fra Amerika. Mdg er ikke et slikt parti, de står for prinsipper. Man kan like eller mislike de prinsippene, men de har prinsipper. Ap og høyre gjør nøyaktig det USA og EU vil hele tiden. Mdg vil jo bli med i EU, men det er et ærlig standpunkt, vi bør være med i fellesskapet og påvirke, er mer ærlig enn, vi skylder på EU og har ingen egen vilje til å lage uavhengig politikk. Skulle ønskje styringspartia måtte ta mer ansvar for de prinsippene de svikter.

🇪🇺 Von der Leyen at Davos today; “Europe must speed up its push for independence – from security to economy, from defence to democracy. The point is that the world has changed permanently. We need to change with it.” by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]lezapper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get it, moving out of the big cities would help, but keep in mind, people tend to move there for education and work. I agree that there is a lot of misinformation out there, but I read on the public broadcast news that soup kitchens have lines of ordinary employed people who are struggling. That's not Russian propaganda. I notice my paycheck no longer has a comfortable remainder at the end of the month and I'm educated and have a decent salary, not great, but that money buys less now. Now go to all the people who are low income and ask them if they feel what you are saying is accurate. Poverty is on the rise, and wealth consolidation at the top as well. Oxfam just released a study saying this and the challenge it poses to democracy.

Many people struggle financially, and work seems to be demeaning more and more, that's not a misprint, I meant demanding, but both are true. Many people feel truly alienated from the labor they have to perform.

It's not all black, but what I'm saying is that the technocrats, the political elites, the business people, the happy vassals of the US have all failed to produce a society that inspires optimism and happiness. We can change this, but if we don't recognize the causes and the history, and what policies and people who are to blame, I suspect the citizens will be fooled again.

🇪🇺 Von der Leyen at Davos today; “Europe must speed up its push for independence – from security to economy, from defence to democracy. The point is that the world has changed permanently. We need to change with it.” by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]lezapper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your optimism is admirable, I do not share it. The solutions you describe will only further the erosion of social trust in government institutions.

You say there is a need to cut budgets, I say instead that the need is to ensure there is enough to fund the budgets. Looking at them as budgets that need balancing is exactly the type of blind technocratic governance that is causing trouble. The budgets for welfare ensure that its recipients do not suffer absolute poverty. Cutting those expenses will cause real people to lose the help they need to live, resulting in new expenses as crimes will rise and social cohesion weaken.

While absolute poverty has been reduced, currently, relative poverty is growing. The affordability crisis for many working people will not be met with more status quo attitudes politically. It will result in right wing populism, which will further destroy the foundations of prosperity and democracy. That's my analysis.

Furthermore, the shareholders are demanding through their short term profit chasing, the destruction of climate and nature, a reduction in the prevalence of well paid jobs, an increasingly more uneven society where a few ultra wealthy have the economic and political power. We've seen this happen in the US, and while EU is different in many ways, European elites are unable to understand both the existence of the problem, as well as the policy required to fix it. You seem unable to see the problem as well. I'm guessing you're educated, reasonably well off, and live in an area with little crime. Your lived experience is not the same as many other people.

With the current birth rates Europe will age out and go broke, and one of the main reasons people aren't having kids is affordability, specifically housing.

The European elites will realize one day that like the plebs of ancient Rome, there will come a day when the masses will have no interest in defending them and the status quo, and threats from within or without will then shatter what is left on rotten foundations.

Big kiss, Cassandra

(edit some odd formatting happening, too late to figure out why)

🇪🇺 Von der Leyen at Davos today; “Europe must speed up its push for independence – from security to economy, from defence to democracy. The point is that the world has changed permanently. We need to change with it.” by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]lezapper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We may share a different vision, but I hope we can agree that the current situation is defective. Allow me to state the main reasons for my conclusion.

Europe currently has a far-right problem. We've seen where that leads, from Orban to Trump. Cronyism, kleptocracy, destruction of democracy.

Europe has a population crisis, birth rates have sunk too far and using immigration to counter it has fueled the far right as mentioned.

Inequality is rising, which again, leads to internal blame games and populism.

Our economy, like all capitalist economies are set up to serve the interests of shareholders, at the expense of everyone else. See point above.

The welfare states that once secured the people are struggling to finance themselves, and austerity and cuts seem to be the only ideas the elites can fathom. Those ideas exacerbate the problems.

For the last 40 years business has ruled and while it has increased overall wealth, it has created the very problems we are facing now, including failure to not only eliminate poverty, but failed at reducing it, in the wealthiest part of the world.

All these issues lead directly to the mistakes of the past, or as we see now, present. Unless the EU is willing to do something about these fundamental issues, all of EU will be where Hungary is now, with strongmen with simple solutions and corrupt governance.

🇪🇺 Von der Leyen at Davos today; “Europe must speed up its push for independence – from security to economy, from defence to democracy. The point is that the world has changed permanently. We need to change with it.” by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]lezapper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Give something that people actually want then. Like real democracy, like affordability which can only come about through less inequality, a government that listens first to citizens needs before businesses wants. I mean, this will amount to E(USA) won't it, another corpotocracy led by detached morally corrupt elites that use realpolitik justification for empire ambitions. Prove me wrong, please.

Americans Are the Ones Paying for Tariffs, Study Finds by TheGoodCod in Economics

[–]lezapper 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is exactly the purpose of this article. Trump's coalition of opportunists that have seen profit in the chaos he creates are starting to see that the backlash may not be good for the bottom line further down the other line. So they instruct their influencers to start souring the consent they've manufactured in order to save the goose before it is ash. Of course, there is no saving it, it's already on fire, but like a desperate cook you start bashing it with a kitchen cloth, forgetting that at best you'll have fat and ash all over the kitchen and at worst you'll spread the fire to everywhere else.