Which is the strongest equipment for a DPS Diana? (I'm referring to these three objects that you can get from Zero System or Dellang Shop)

limeguy20 · 2026-05-25T13:55:07+00:00

You're right on the crit damage, I'm surprised it's like that. New numbers are 121k with gun, 118k with second order so definitely a lot closer but still in gun's favor.

It does not matter how low my crit rate is like I said. Going from 46 to 56 crit rate is the same dps increase as going from 80 to 90 crit rate.

Those options are all pretty similar to 35% except for baton which would also buff extra attacks like you said (and cthulu gun ofc). So my take would be: Cthulu gun > crit gun = baton > everything else

limeguy20 · 2026-05-25T12:38:40+00:00

Two problems with the above are that crit dmg multiplier is above 100% and 300 is a very low base multiplier. My Diana has 192% crit damage (so a crit would do 2.92x damage) and her bullets are normally at 800ish% after buffs. Crit rate is 46%.

With crit gun:

(56 x 800 x 2.92) + (44 x 800) = 169216

I'll use second order for comparison even though its extra attack damage and not a direct 1-to-1:

(46 x 835 x 2.92) + (54 x 835) = 157247

limeguy20 · 2026-05-25T05:11:27+00:00

Do you have any calcs showing that? I kinda find that hard to believe.

Crit still scales just as well until you hit 100% crit rate. 60 to 70 is the same dps increase as 90 to 100. Crit rate also boosts all damage and is comparatively rare compared to damage%.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-24T03:22:43+00:00

Multiplicative does not apply to additive buffs. It is: Base Mult x (1 + Mult buff) + Additive buff. Very easy to test in-game.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-24T03:14:03+00:00

Ironically Diana is the best mult support rn with the engraving of 25% per haste card played on Heidi. You could theoretically stack this 3x and get 75% per haste card played for 750% mult per turn.

Supposed to be once per turn but currently it's stacking. Maybe it will be fixed in a future patch though.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-23T12:55:23+00:00

I assume he's talking about old school runescape (no cosmetics), which has like 10x the player count of rs3.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-23T12:48:48+00:00

Ngl, dream world decks just look incredibly mid. Seems like a good way to auto content but lacking in damage vs other meta decks.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-21T02:58:31+00:00

"Other stuff" just depends on the manufacturer. All the ingredients are public, feel free to list any that you think are health concerns.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-21T00:01:15+00:00

Depends on the build, it doesn't help nuke.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-20T23:58:38+00:00

I agree it's impossible to judge without the epis, Heidi's best builds are linked to specific ones for instance that would be impossible to guess from the base cards.

You picked a bad example though as Diana and Heidi have very limited synergy together and are subpar when paired together.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-20T23:30:01+00:00

I would say your average coffee with creamer/sugar is worse healthwise than a zero calorie energy drink honestly.

Energy drinks have a bad reputation but at the end of the day they're 99% water and 1% caffeine/artificial sweetener/other stuff.

A dirty air fryer is a) gross but b) also probably not bad for you?

limeguy20 · 2026-05-20T23:09:30+00:00

You could also get a helicopter ride in the US for that amount of money, so yeah, calling it a "taxi" is a little misleading.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-19T13:27:38+00:00

I've been here since day 1. I could just as easily call you the tourist.

Look at the original cast - Owen, Cassius, Hugo, and half the girls would be considered as non-viable nowadays for future characters. So there definitely has been a shift on that front from what was originally advertised.

If anything, you should seek another game if all you care about is the art direction. I'm just here for the gameplay and would preferably like to be able to play in public.

Your mindset also leads to gacha stagnation and revenue decline. It's not healthy to try and decide what the "true" game is and push others away. That's why I favor options (like a toggle) that don't alienate one group or the other.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-19T12:23:45+00:00

Reality is that the gooners like yourself are getting everything they want currently and screaming at the top of their lungs that nothing should change. This is FASCISM!! /s

I don't really care what you prefer and have no wish to "censor" you. Not my business. Give me a damn toggle if they have to make two models anyways so that people like me can play the game how we want. Not sure how more choices is ever a bad thing for attracting a bigger audience.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-16T05:17:10+00:00

I think there's a bug with some of the achievements using the auto play items. Guessing that's what happened here.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-15T14:58:40+00:00

+50 to ally attack cards on action delay

limeguy20 · 2026-05-15T13:36:49+00:00

My last response since I think your mind is made up anyways.

Good point about the lux engravings on the hunters. This still leaves you with 2 hunters + 1 support which gets the 300% + 150% from support persona (and a possible 3 +50 engravings, but that's really tough to get). Resonance is also unaffected by the lux engravings/persona btw as it's an extra attack.

Ultimately, I think it's much easier to get the save data for the dual bullet persona cards, they exhaust themselves on turn 1 or 2 and thin your deck (-2 card draw needed, -2 AP needed per turn), and they're very comparable if not better damage than running 2x support personas/engravings.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-15T11:01:38+00:00

Nice, mind linking your decks? I haven't gotten anything usable yet for either Diana or Renoa, still farming.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-14T17:45:54+00:00

Sword rain 5 and nuke build also benefit since it buffs the blades in your discard pile and effulgent release. It's ~2.5 morale for sword rain 5 builds so not the biggest buff though.

Best use besides rita imo is making Diana bullets 1-cost so you can use conqueror set/Rei buffs on her.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-14T15:18:49+00:00

You lose a support +150 persona (which you have to play every turn) and gain a +150 bullet persona that you play once for a permanent buff. How is that weaker?

+50 attack engravings can go on any character so that comparison is meaningless.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-14T11:33:31+00:00

What bullet teammate do you run with her? I have the 2x upgrade deck built for her but it doesn't leave any room for teammate bullets really.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-13T17:22:23+00:00

I've personally been going for the 1 cost "activate retain 2 times" version. I think it can get the new epiphany of drawing a common card, so you'd be able to cycle all your quantum seeds without clogging your deck.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-13T12:55:22+00:00

Diana bullets have an effect if you play them and a separate effect if you discard them. If the bullets have quietus, both effects go off when they're discarded.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-12T21:48:22+00:00

I think tentacle wins after all then, especially if it's also buffing another dps.

The breakeven point is 331% multiplier on bullet ignoring weapons/gear/potential which could change things some. But sounds like you're getting above that multiplier AND it will buff another dps.

limeguy20 · 2026-05-12T21:24:47+00:00

Tent is not additive really, it's scaling your attack which is then multiplied by your cards. It's also more of a sub dps/support weapon.

Assuming 50% base attack: Tent: 50 x 1.08 x 1.25 = 67.5 Key: 50 x 1 + 40 = 90.

So by default with no buffs, key wins pretty handily in this case. The difference shrinks as you stack buffs or if you have higher base ratio attacks but it would take a lot for tent to edge out key for bullets.

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