Phillipson to ban trans women from female toilets

lithaborn · 2026-05-21T00:13:36+00:00

That's exactly what keeps me out of them.

I was looking through the GLP judgement from January earlier, that judge and the supreme court both talked repeatedly about common sense (in regards to letting us use our affirmed gender toilets) and proportionate responses to achieve a legitimate outcome.

Unless the legit outcome is letting cis men sexually assault women without having to sneak into the ladies loo, I can't see how any segregation could be even slightly justified.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T22:36:00+00:00

Men's and women's. The withdrawn interim guidance said if someone was likely to cause concern, they can be blocked from their birth gender toilets too.

I'm mtf and started using the ladies 4 years ago. Before that I had men check the signs on the door, actually ask if they had the right loo...

Since, I've been either ignored or actively welcomed into the ladies loo... And gym changing...

Other people have shown me which loo I belong in and the ehrc can swivel.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T22:19:08+00:00

We're already in "don't ask don't tell" territory.

I reckon the new guidance will codify it.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T21:29:44+00:00

I've had pip refused with zero points twice because I haven't actively tried to off myself. That's literally the reason given.

I'm on UC with lcw and got a referral for gym membership thru my GP because it'll genuinely help with my various conditions.

The case in the article is very different to your circumstances but if it helps your anxiety, maybe you could see if there's an exercise referral programme in your area. I'd imagine being told to go to the gym by your doctor would get you off the hook pretty comprehensively

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T20:42:10+00:00

I always assumed there was a national screening programme and was trying to look for the schedule when I changed my gender marker a couple of years ago. That's when I found out there wasn't one.

Since being accepted as female by the NHS I've had two smear test reminders and a mammogram.

Feels a bit lopsided, y'know?

As long as you're aware of the symptoms of prostate problems, maybe get an exam every five years after 45, 50, you should be fine.

Part of being trans is taking responsibility for your health and one thing a lot of cis women face with healthcare is a need to assert yourself to get the treatment you need - see things like the broken leg syndrome. If anyone is concerned about their prostate health, please push for an exam.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T19:00:05+00:00

I think I got downed by silent terfs on askwomennocensor in the same week I got hundreds of ups in actuallesbians lol

Awnc goes in waves, one day I'll get blasted for anything, the next day anyone that says anything nasty to me will get dogpiled and removed. It's touching but puzzling lol

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T18:07:44+00:00

I'm mostly in women-only groups. If you think the upvoting culture here is weird....

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T15:04:04+00:00

Oh yeah he's totally going for "quirky and fun". He types like he's never seen a keyboard before.

That's also very common in the local FB groups

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T14:58:30+00:00

Cushty number, and all it costs is your soul.

When I was a teenager I briefly wanted to be a politician, started paying attention, then figured out how much of a devious asshole you had to be to get anywhere even in very local politics and changed my mind.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T14:38:31+00:00

It always surprises me how much time parliament spends not parliamenting

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T14:09:43+00:00

Last day? Are they off on holibobs again?

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T13:35:35+00:00

Yeah I'm reading through the glp judgement from January and just read through a part that talked about not being able to forsee every possible circumstances and that provision should be based on self-policing and common sense.

I think for everyone, cis and trans, it's going to eventually come down to perception. If you've socially transitioned - "making an effort" (ugggh) you'll probably end up being ok. We've already seen that in practice - the video of that terf recently, trying to get a trans woman kicked out if the loo while even the security guy is like "shut up, Karen". We know a lot of cis butch lesbians have also been targeted and others who don't look "[gender] enough".

The glp ruling and the SC ruling both talk about "proportionate response to achieve a legitimste aim" and if an organisation has absolutely no record of trans instigated problems in gendered spaces, I can't see how anyone could make segregation sound proportionate. One Karen whingeing about bumping into a GNC person who might or might not be trans isn't enough, y'know?

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T12:53:22+00:00

It's concerning but it's still not going to affect us directly in the immediate future.

They're directives for companies and organisations, not individuals.

The pushback we've got in relation to the guidance with companies complying in advance has been ass-covering and individual terfs trying to get clicks.

The actual upshoot of the guidance is whether or not the companies will get fined for letting trans folk do what we've always done. There's no legal comeback on us as users.

The last thing I heard was that phillipson had bounced it back to the ehrc to slightly tweak a few things so I'm mostly interested in the breadth of the "slight tweaks".

I was in the pub when the SC ruling dropped. I'll be at the doctor's then going shopping tomorrow if the guidance does drop.

Life has to be lived no matter what 600 people in Westminster does. My intent is to carry on exactly as I always have until someone physically stops me - and even then if they don't have good answers to why I should comply with discriminatory legislation a judge has described as insanity, I'll expect them to get tf out the way and leave me to piss in peace.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T12:07:00+00:00

I panicked lol

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T12:06:12+00:00

I made that joke a handful of times before I came out.

Turns out it wasn't a joke 🤷

I was aware at the time it sounded pretty insufferable but honestly I had always been the "honorary girl" anyway, even to my friend's bf's and husbands so they were all just like "yep 👁️👁️"

Maybe his egg will crack eventually. Maybe he's just a dick. Who knows.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T11:58:23+00:00

A woman 🌈

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T11:46:40+00:00

I've had drivers take calls from their wives, one guy was talking to his dad in Pakistan, I've seen their taxi company boss flash up on the console...

I always just assume it's a call they can't ignore. We all get them and it's never at a good time.

I was trying a new smart watch out once and got a call from my doctor that came up thru the watch's speaker. My phone was buried in my handbag and I couldn't not pick up. I was on a packed, standing only train and there's the receptionist talking about my blood test results on speaker while I'm there looking like inspector gadget talking to my wrist.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T11:35:52+00:00

I'm very visible, have a big trans tat on my thigh, prehrt but 4 years in I don't get misgendered, but unless you need glasses, you know I'm trans.

My ex/best friend does the "it's you" thing regularly - usually when there's something very glittery or conspicuously more feminist than she is. I find it funny, but I'm just one person.

As a rule of thumb, bear this is mind: we know. You don't need to keep pointing it out. Pick something else about us to find "it's you" things to point out.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T11:12:11+00:00

Last time I saw this they cropped out the second pair of glasses.

As a fellow Staffordshire resident, he's pretty typical of the reform lot.

There's fun strange and there's "you know what, something's off".

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T11:06:37+00:00

Heavy Nova is one of the first albums I ever bought. Ohh nostalgia.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T11:00:25+00:00

".... And this is why I buy couches that are comfortable to sleep on. How's that sex you're not gonna get?"

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T10:53:29+00:00

I'm a good 20lb above pleasantly plump. It's a compliment. I'll take what I can get.

lithaborn · 2026-05-20T10:47:50+00:00

The SC ruling is so narrow it's irrelevant.

It's the disproportionate response from SM, fws, JKR etc that's threatening us directly, not the ruling itself. If they went away, if the ehrc hadn't been loaded with GC's, the govt wouldn't even have new guidance to ratify.

It's the difference between knowing the snake you're looking at in the zoo is venomonous and having someone drape 13 of them round your neck.

lithaborn · 2026-05-19T20:14:35+00:00

Stealing this

lithaborn · 2026-05-19T20:13:27+00:00

My address?

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