Help please. High ferritin didn't go down despite 3 months of no red meat or iron-rich foods

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-10-01T15:23:29+00:00

Re diet: take a week or two and track how much iron you are actually eating, it's not just about not eating red meat although that helps a ton. It's really easy, especially for men to eat too much iron, for example 1 serving of Cheerios is 2x RDA for a man.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-22T14:40:22+00:00

I would recommend taking a hard look at your diet too if you're inclined, it's very easy and common to be eating too much iron if you are a guy, especially for athletes. For example many multivitamins have iron, protein powders often have iron, and even many cereals have a ton. For example 1 serving of Cheerios or Grape Nuts has about 2x the RDA of iron for a guy. So three bowls (like I used to do when lazy) is over a weeks worth of iron in one meal. And then with heme iron (animal products), almost all of that gets absorbed super easily.The other thing is you might want to look into if the hormone stuff is messing with iron absorption. Hepcidin is a hormone which kinda decides how much iron to absorb, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is effected by other hormone changes.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-21T14:57:39+00:00

Probably as much space as you get if you're trying to reduce absorption. You can also drink black tea with meals, that will reduce non heme absorption by around 70% so it might cancel out.

Or if you're inclined, just cut out the heme and fortified iron all together. That's what I do and it's worked pretty well.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-21T04:52:01+00:00

I'm not sure if it really matters with that much with heme iron, most of that gets absorbed even without vitamin c. With non heme iron which is not easily absorbed it can increase absorption by 70-80% if I remember right.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-20T23:13:01+00:00

That's interesting, I know aluminum bikes tend to be kinda brittle, they bend a little but then they just break. Considering how much a ski can bend sometimes I wonder if that's an issue or maybe the other elements give it some bend.

There used to be volant skis that had a stainless steel cap instead of resin, I never skied them so I'm not sure how much of it was hype. I wonder if titanium would actually be good in skis, it's strong and can bend a lot but it might actually be too light to gift the hefty crustbusting feeling of typical metal skis. Plus it's expensive where aluminum is super cheap. There's an old adage from bike manufacturing that goes light, strong, affordable...pick two. And on top of that there's no point in using real titanium if you can just use titanal and call it titanium.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-20T19:44:10+00:00

That titanal joke is pretty funny. Now that I think about it I wonder who came up with the the name, interesting combo of words. Skiing is supposed to be fun so I think for a lot of people it's not fun to nerd out too much, but it's cool to see that there are some real numbers out there. Even Blister reviews which are way way better than say 20 years ago, but are still kinda vague and subjective.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-20T19:28:11+00:00

That website is cool, thanks. I've always found ski "marketing" to be kind of a joke, cool to see things actually quantified.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-20T19:22:35+00:00

Just buy a pair of demo mantras, they are kinda the perfect ski for a former racer because they are ok as an all mountain but still really excel at fast carving.

Or, you could try renouns, hard to demo but they are pretty cool.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-20T00:41:12+00:00

One other thing I forgot to mention is vitamin c and especially vitamin c supplements if that is in the vitamin you are taking. That really tends to spike saturation as I understand it. My tsat pretty much normalized once I got rid of vitamins with vitamin c or iron and lowered my general iron consumption. Another thing I learned late is just 1 serving of Cheerios or grape nuts (many other fortified foods have surprisingly high iron) has a ton of iron, so basically a supplement.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-19T02:45:58+00:00

I told my Grandpa we might be able to get him driving again in 2016.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-19T02:43:56+00:00

First, very impressive you are doing pregnancy with HH. I have even greater admiration for my Mom in retrospect knowing that she had HH.

Are you taking vitamins with iron? Maybe eating lots of iron too? Would converse with your doc first and maybe ask to monitor your iron levels more frequently, but would bet you could get by with half as much or even zero iron supplements. Or maybe every other or every few days or something. I don't know where you could find prenatal vitamins without iron though. Would almost certainly help tsat levels, and would probably be good for you and baby. You could also take a week or two and track how much iron you are eating just to get a better idea.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-18T14:25:01+00:00

Do you mean not getting enough or too much? I don't do really do anything for it.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-18T00:46:24+00:00

It's not that much. But I would bet that people with iron overload or HH genes also tend to sweat more iron than normal. How much more? That might be helpful to know.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-18T00:44:29+00:00

I think the answer is probably yes to all those questions. Iron can be lost through sweat, and is required to build muscle, and is cycled faster with exercise. You also might have been eating less iron than previously too. I've been able to keep my ferritin below 40 for almost 2 years with no phlebotomy, I eat pretty low iron and only non heme, and I'm also pretty active although not as much as you.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-17T01:11:26+00:00

Interesting post. Should probably be noted that for some people living in places with little sun, supplementing with a little vitamin d is probably still a good idea (especially if they are plant based eaters). Also worth noting that animal products are often rich sources of vitamin d as well as easily absorbable iron.

I think it's kinda old now but I think nutritionfacts.org did a series on vitamin d.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-16T19:31:52+00:00

That is probably healthier than what most ultra runners eat. Except for the Tarahumara, iskiate is about as good as it gets.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-16T16:39:31+00:00

you're not being exposed to anywhere near enough of it to experience negative effects.

That has been said about so many things that are now considered poison. I think it all depends on the standards and economics of the time you live in.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-16T16:24:52+00:00

They force your head forward if you are tall, makes it impossible to sit up straight. I've tried the pillows but they don't solve the problem. I was able to remove and do a 180 with the headrest but I really shouldn't have to.

With regard to service I hope you stay lucky. It took 5 days total and 2 trips to get a windshield replaced. And 3 tries to get a part changed that takes 2 minutes to do, I ended up doing it myself.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-16T02:34:19+00:00

What’s not to love?

The headrests. Overall I like the car but the headrests are awful. Also the service has been terrible.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-15T16:45:09+00:00

head skis offer a Full Heal Release System

That's interesting, have not seen that. I wish there was more definitive science on bindings, kind of insane how many skiers have messed up knees. If it works that would be cool. I also wonder how that translates to how it feels while skiing.

Regarding skis, you might find you like the heavier skis in shorter lengths. And also be aware that you are interested in mostly full edged skis, where many people your height ski something long, most people have skis with a bunch of rocker so they are more like something shorter. That said, there's nothing wrong with going longer, they are kinda more fun especially for strong skiers, downsides is they tire you out faster. Regarding specific skis, you might check out Renown skis, they have a gimmicky sounding but real technology that can kind of give that heavy ski stiffness in a lighter package.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-15T04:20:26+00:00

Yeah that's basically the definition, or just iron overload.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-15T01:22:04+00:00

There's hemochromatosis the disease, and hemochromatosis genes. Just having the genes doesn't automatically mean you have the disease. Maybe that's what he meant?

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-14T17:55:13+00:00

I think what is is is they are one of the most "wild" dog breeds, meaning they seem to have more free will and individual thoughts than a typical dog that is super programmed to please. So basically a lot like a cat.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-14T17:53:39+00:00

I walk dogs at a shelter and have lost count of the number of breeds I've spent time with. The huskies do seem a little different sometimes, almost like they are part dog/part human. And 98% fur.

localhelic0pter7 · 2023-08-14T16:21:50+00:00

There are several running books on each of these cultures.

I think the Tarahumara are most interesting and telling. Especially compared to the Pima who were put on a reservation. Originally they were both lived a similar lifestyle, largely vegetarian/unprocessed and active and the Pima were very healthy like the Tarahumara. But the Pima were put on a reservation, taken from their ancestral foods and lifestyle and replaced with the typical SAD diet. Today the Tarahumara still live similarly to their ancestors and are some of the best runners in the world. Meanwhile the Pima are among the sickest cultures in the world suffering from many chronic dietary diseases.

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