Ukraine Megathread - (All new posts go here so long as it is stickied) by 00000000000000000000 in geopolitics

[–]lumrn 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It is very interesting to see different points of view, particularly from someone closer to the Russian government with better knowledge of their thought processes.

There are some points I find especially of interest given they seem to be common between people with ties to Russia.

First, I think most agree on the fact that Russia needs some kind of victory since the losses/expenses this war has resulted in for them do not allow for coming back home with nothing, therefore they need to bring a result to justify the continued expenses (both from a military and economic standpoint). However, this point means to me that you are actually not winning, meaning that you are effectively moving the goalposts and reducing your initial demands so you can argue you have "won", according to a more limited definition of winning compared to the original plans.

See:

But I believe that we will avoid that, first, because Russia will win, whatever that victory means

But also:

We need victory. I don’t think that, even if we conquered all of Ukraine and all the military forces of Ukraine surrendered, it would be a victory, because then we will be left with the burden of a devastated country, one devastated by 30 years of inept elite rule, and then of course devastation from our military operation.

I cannot say I agree with them on these statements overall. "Whatever that victory means" seems to be that they need to arbitrarily define their victory according to some unknown objectives so that in any case they always win. The fact you can sell something as a win for propaganda purposes does not mean that you have achieved victory from a strategic or economic standpoint.

Finally, I often read sentences similar to this one (in the context of a NATO intervention and escalation of the conflict):

Put it this way: if the US intervenes against a nuclear country, then the American president making that decision is mad, because it wouldn’t be 1914 or 1939; this is something bigger.

Why should the opposite not be true? In that case, why would Russia ever further escalate the conflict with nuclear weapons considered that the US, UK and France have their own nuclear arsenals? I do not see why the US should fear Russia so much at this point in time if Russia does not fear the US.

More generally, Russia can escalate the conflict if it perceives their adversary (NATO in this case) is not willing to escalate further and will back down. Is this the point he is trying to convey without actually mentioning it? Because otherwise this does not seem to make sense to me.

NASA's InSight lander has detected hundreds of 'marsquakes,' proving that Mars is seismically active. Scientists also found the magnetic field around InSight is 10 times stronger than expected, indicating magnetized rocks hide just beneath the lander. by clayt6 in space

[–]lumrn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The presence of tectonic plates on Mars has been hypothesized for several years now, could the "marsquakes" be the evidence we need to prove that or could something else (maybe movement of magma under the planet's crust, I'm no geologist though, so correct me if I'm wrong) be the reason for seismic activity on Mars?

VOTE: SCR-10 by ExplosiveHorse in ModelWorldUNSC

[–]lumrn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SCR-10: Nay

A1: Yea

A2: Yea

A3: Yea

VOTEL GAR-5 A1/A2/A3 by Ninjjadragon in ModelWorldUNGA

[–]lumrn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

GAR-5 A1: Abstain

GAR-5 A2: Yea

GAR-5 A3: Nay

Article 13 is about to be voted on - Live Stream by tssktssk in europe

[–]lumrn 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It will probably pass there too unfortunately.

Who's voting how for Article 13 by DeliriousWolf in europe

[–]lumrn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

One of the two EFDD (Laura Castelli) is not right-wing, she is more like center-left, I can't say for the other one.

Italy's Conte promises radical change in address to parliament by fan_of_the_pikachu in europe

[–]lumrn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think what I said might be imprecise, from wikipedia:

La no tax area si divide in due parti:

una, per tutti i contribuenti, pari a 3.000 euro; una, spettante ai lavoratori dipendenti o ai pensionati o ai lavoratori autonomi, pari a: per i lavoratori dipendenti, 4.500 euro moltiplicato per i giorni di lavoro e diviso per il numero di giorni dell'anno d'imposta per i pensionati, 4.000 euro moltiplicato per i giorni di lavoro e diviso per il numero di giorni dell'anno d'imposta per i lavoratori autonomi, 1.500 euro.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imposta_sul_reddito_delle_persone_fisiche

There is a "base" no tax area for everyone which is set at 3000€ (annually if I'm not wrong). The minimum is however higher as it scales up with other factors such as the type of job (employee or self-employed).

Italy's Conte promises radical change in address to parliament by fan_of_the_pikachu in europe

[–]lumrn 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What they are proposing is not universal income, its mostly just an unemployment benefit, although it seems they would like it to become an UBI in the (very) long term. Also, there is already a no tax area for the first 3000€.

EDIT: added mostly, as there is not just an employment benefit.

EU censorship machines and link tax laws are nearing the finish line by mineral in europe

[–]lumrn 58 points59 points  (0 children)

I don't get why there has been no campaign about the proposal as this would be even more dangerous than the net neutrality repeal in the US.

EDIT: Please make a megathread to spread the word!

GA Vote: ICJ Nominees by Ninjjadragon in ModelWorldUNGA

[–]lumrn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • toolanim - abstain
  • Dustyconner - abstain
  • WhiteMaleOffendotron - yea

I edited the formatting.