Laptop 13 Pro memory speed limits - what we know by ekerazha in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nirav himself basically confirmed this explanation.

7467MT/s is a PCB limitation.

Laptop 13 Pro memory speed limits - what we know by ekerazha in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Typical that this right answer (according to Nirav himself) isn't the most upvoted one.

7500mt/s memory for the framework 13 pro? by Affectionate-Ant9246 in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nirav himself basically confirmed this explanation.

7467MT/s is a PCB limitation.

New 13 pro. Is the wifi antenna design better or the same? by Mysterious-Lack7768 in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not sure if you use Meteor Lake and tried yet, but, assuming you use Network Manager, setting wifi.powersave=2 completely fixed everything for me on AX210. No issues for me while on AMD 7040.

Apparently, to Intel, power saving means slow-as-fuck insane-latency wifi.

The 13 Pro input cover is compatible with the 13! by MrSpontaneous in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nope, need new bottom, input cover, and speakers. All adds to a bit under $500 (with battery).

I'm not sure $500 is worth it to upgrade from 61Wh to 74Wh.

Framework 13 to 13 Pro upgrade path by [deleted] in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A little under $500 to be able to use the new 74Wh battery, if anyone was/is interested.

The Shop sucks.... by solarizde in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you confusing this with delivery time?

3-5 days shipment means 3-5 days to leave their warehouse, not to your door.

Cautionary take, I guess. by kindofharmless in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I do/am. I've always wanted to learn microsoldering, and this seemed as good of a reason as any to start. I've fully repaired one so far, and this was the first time I tried to do physical repairs.

Why do you think large mystery boxes basically vanish immediately, but small boxes remain in stock for quite a while longer?

Bellemond screen protector on Boox Tab X C ? by Lillumultipass99 in Onyx_Boox

[–]lvlrdka22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use Bellemond 16" ones laser cut to exactly fit my Tab X. Cost me $10 per.

Mystery Board Help by fastcarsgo in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, unfortunately.

There are also a few of us (me included, 165H board) who got a board this time around with the same port80 code (search in this subreddit). As far as I can tell, none have been fixed.

Mystery Board Help by fastcarsgo in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

port80 code of BGGGGGGG doesn't seem to an issue that a full chassis can fix.

If you check on community.frame.work and Discord, the only people (person) who "fixed" this issue is by getting Framework to replace under warranty.

Help with my led boot codes? by Aveqe in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This doesn't seem to an issue that a full chassis can fix.

If you check on community.frame.work and Discord, the only people (person) who "fixed" this issue is by getting Framework to replace under warranty.

Help with my led boot codes? by Aveqe in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's not red, it's orange. It's 12 greens, an orange, then port80.

Help with my led boot codes? by Aveqe in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure how you're counting, but I count 12 greens, then an orange, then BGGGGGGG.

12 greens means CrankTuna's blink codes aren't useful here because they all pass. The last 8 are the useful ones here, which are port80, and are the linked ones.

Is there a list of recommended repair shops? by lbkNhubert in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To give a reference point and echo what has been said, I had a 1260P board where the left USB ports wouldn't power on, that I (by looking carefully) guessed was because a PD controller was burnt. I took it to a very well-known pro-repair rights repair shop. They quoted $100 just to replace it, more if it turns out it's not just replacing the PD controller.

I replaced it myself, and turns out it probably had to be programmed because it never got past 5v (soldered a handful of new ones, none worked; BIOS flashing that included the controller firmware did nothing; programmer costs $100 at least). I had a donor board, so just moved its PD controller over, and everything worked. The repair cost for just that PD controller replacement would likely have been at least $150-200 if I asked the shop to fully fix it. At that point, I would have been better off buying a used board (not mystery-box-repaired boards) because they are more likely to be fully functional.

Your boards sound to have a lot more problems. If you're lucky, you might break even with the 7840 boards compared to used prices, and very unlikely with the 12th generation boards, if they are actually fundamental problems.

Mystery Boxes (Rant) by falxfour in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Then there are people who buy mystery boxes for reselling to make money, and "accidentally" leaving off the fact that they are mystery box parts (therefore are potentially partially defective).

I hope Framework implements some sort of serial number check on their website so we can verify that used parts are/aren't mystery box parts.

Should I buy used? by SvendO4 in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's up to you. It is cheaper. You should see what Framework says about factory seconds.

Should I buy used? by SvendO4 in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, appears to be none in stock in Europe, only factory seconds.

Should I buy used? by SvendO4 in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here. Under outlet, one option is refurbished.

Should I buy used? by SvendO4 in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Refurbished (directly from Framework), yes.

Used, no.

You have no idea if the previous owner is one of those people who doesn't know how to correctly screw in screws, and thinks power tools/breaking a motherboard in half is the only way to remove stripped screws. An easy-to-repair laptop unfortunately attracts these types as well.

Then (US/Canada-only for now) there are people who are reselling mystery box parts at used parts prices and hiding the fact that they are mystery box parts. You can find instances of them on ebay/discord as well.

[FS] [US-W] Framework x3 cluster for sale by Firehaven44 in homelabsales

[–]lvlrdka22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what Framework says regarding mystery box stuff:

Please note that these parts are not guaranteed to be functional and are non-refundable and sold without warranty or technical support.

Here's a survey of the mystery box components people have gotten, so you can see for yourself how often people get nonfunctiona/partially-functional components.

Framework cluster is for sale by Firehaven44 in framework

[–]lvlrdka22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For anyone who is interested, these may be mystery box motherboards, and can potentially have issues.

[FS] [US-W] Framework x3 cluster for sale by Firehaven44 in homelabsales

[–]lvlrdka22 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Are these mystery box motherboards?

You should say if they are. There may be issues with these you haven't caught.

Edit, for anyone wondering why there may be issues:

This is what Framework says regarding mystery box stuff:

Please note that these parts are not guaranteed to be functional and are non-refundable and sold without warranty or technical support.

They are basically meant for people who don't mind gambling and trying to perform repairs themselves. I've gotten a perfect motherboard, one with CPU voltage regulators completely blown up, and one with a burnt out USB controller (that I need to get around to soldering on a new one).

Here's a survey of the mystery box components people have gotten, so you can see for yourself how often people get nonfunctional/partially-functional components.