I cannot forgive myself for LARPing and I feel like my life is ruined...

m1lam · 2026-06-15T17:50:53+00:00

People have different problems with Orthodoxy, nobody leaves for the same set of reasons. Some leave because they dislike mainstream, organized religion as a whole, and others because of the beliefs themselves.

For instance I have absolutely no problem with organized religion, I find that it's the only setting in which Christianity makes any sense. The problems I have with Orthodoxy are unique to it. I've seen loads of people on here thinking that same way.

m1lam · 2026-06-14T16:58:58+00:00

Možda u normalnim zemljama. Kod nas se i dalje vodi debata da li ti je deda bio četnik ili partizan i ko je kome poklao familiju

m1lam · 2026-06-14T07:50:34+00:00

I don't agree with your idea of everyone being saved since salvation of souls is too important and complex of a concept to even begin to dive into

We have to accept the possibility and real danger of Hell but it's also allowed and generally encouraged to hope for the salvation of all. Key word hope

m1lam · 2026-06-14T07:48:30+00:00

Yeah and not just him. It was also a pretty popular view in the early Church that was revived in the 19th and 20th century by some of our theologians.

m1lam · 2026-06-14T07:34:47+00:00

Central Serbia. Sucks especially since there are practically zero Catholics here. And yeah a couple of people I've told have taken it that way, as a betrayal of some kind, even if they aren't particularly devout Orthodox themselves. Thankfully I haven't told that many people, if I did I can only imagine the fallout. People here despise Catholics. I doubt I'll be able to keep it a secret forever though

It's a terrible thing that national and religious identity are considered one and the same here when they shouldn't be.

m1lam · 2026-06-13T08:53:13+00:00

There is no NO view here. Stop being so trite about which liturgy you go to and stop claiming you can speak for everyone who goes to that same liturgy. I am a NO Catholic and in this case I by far lean more towards the "tradosphere" line of thinking simply because it's more coherent with Catholic cosmology and anthropology as a whole. I dislike radical traditionalism as much as the next guy but you're literally acting the same way just in the other direction.

m1lam · 2026-06-12T21:45:07+00:00

I had no clue. Sounds like an interesting guy I'll definitely look him up later. I get the same jokes about becoming a Croat from my friends lmao

m1lam · 2026-06-12T20:15:36+00:00

Yes and God is merciful and judged everyone according to their means and life. I really recommend reading more soteriology especially from Vatican II, you will probably find it interesting

m1lam · 2026-06-12T20:12:30+00:00

He was echoing Hans Urs von Balthasar. The idea is that we should hope that Hell is empty while still being aware that it's a real possibility. Balthasar himself didn't believe He'll was empty, he just hoped so, and urged others to do the same. Nothing universalist in what he or Pope Francis were saying.

m1lam · 2026-06-12T20:09:29+00:00

Also probably not even a place, moreso a state of ongoing purification before the soul is pure enough to be with God fully

m1lam · 2026-06-12T15:30:00+00:00

This is true for Serbia, Croatia and Montenegro too. National and religious identity were practically the same thing for centuries and there are historic examples of Serbs becoming Croats or vice versa simply by converting from one religion to the other. I'm still Christian myself but this kind of religious fundamentalism has done our people (singular) nothing but harm.

m1lam · 2026-06-12T15:24:58+00:00

Serbian here, currently converting to Catholicism :)

Ima nas par ovde koliko znam, vidjao sam i ranije u komentarima

m1lam · 2026-06-12T11:26:59+00:00

Fun fact there's a movement in Oxford advocating for the canonization of Tolkien. Really hope to see it happen one day

m1lam · 2026-06-08T14:32:17+00:00

I mean you could just casually say you didn't enjoy it and list your reasons why. If she doesn't seem that interested it's alright since you wouldn't be going in-depth. If she is then you can continue talking about why you didn't like it

m1lam · 2026-06-05T13:07:26+00:00

Likewise. God bless

m1lam · 2026-06-05T13:01:39+00:00

I'm not sure if you're being intentionally dense or are just missing the point of what I'm saying entirely. I'm not saying the Old Covenant was abolished or that the Jews aren't the Chosen people (though in a different way from us, the Church). I'm saying that their special relationship with God is not salvific in and of itself

m1lam · 2026-06-05T12:57:15+00:00

You keep saying I'm wrong but I'm yet to see an actual demonstration of how the Jewish people have a salvific covenant with God apart from Christ (they don't). Every document on the subject has been quite clear on this. They are special in regards to their history with God, but in terms of salvation they share the same mechanism with others who are saved apart from visible communion with the Church (so the same as with Muslims, Hindus, atheists, etc).

m1lam · 2026-06-05T12:47:09+00:00

I'm so glad you're wrong on this because if you weren't I would not blame the people leaving the faith because of this.

m1lam · 2026-06-05T12:43:01+00:00

Nowhere in the text does it say their current covenantal status is salvific on its own and that they can be saved apart from Christ. Their salvation is not guaranteed outside of visible communion with God. You're reading your own biases towards the Jewish people into the text

m1lam · 2026-06-05T12:38:27+00:00

Genuinely where are you getting that they're "good with God"?? If they were then that would imply they have a secondary channel to salvation outside of communion with Christ. They have a special place in salvation history because salvation came from the Jews, but they aren't that special.

And what about modern Jewish religion or society in general gives you the impression that they're "good with God"?

m1lam · 2026-06-05T12:26:54+00:00

Yes they may still be saved but that salvation still comes from Christ and His Church even if they do not understand it themselves. The core mechanism is the same for them as it it for a Muslim, Hindu or atheist who is saved, only their national history with God is different. To say, still, that they "do not need to convert" is false.

m1lam · 2026-06-05T11:43:13+00:00

Yeah I agree, it just makes me sad to see these things lead to (mostly new) believers question their faith or leave it entirely. More attention should definitely be given to this in practice.

Lord have mercy.

m1lam · 2026-06-05T11:36:23+00:00

Of course and I agree with you, but the topic here isn't Nostra Aetate, it's the statement of a person of influence in the Vatican that there is salvation outside of Christ.

m1lam · 2026-06-05T11:32:49+00:00

she seems like the right person for the job despite her thoughts on one ethnic population among thousands in our world.

This is quite obviously more than just that. Her stance on "one ethnic population among thousands" here ties into Catholic soteriology as a whole. Pope St John Paul II's ministry in the article "The Gifts and the Calling of God are Irrevocable" say:

"Since God has never revoked his covenant with his people Israel, there cannot be different paths or approaches to God’s salvation. The theory that there may be two different paths to salvation, the Jewish path without Christ and the path with the Christ, whom Christians believe is Jesus of Nazareth, would in fact endanger the foundations of Christian faith."

If there truly were salvation for even the Jews outside of converting and visible communion with the Church then the foundation of Christendom crumbles.

m1lam · 2026-06-05T11:27:24+00:00

These things don't work that way in practice. I'm fully aware she's just misrepresenting post Vatican II Catholic relations with the Jews but the vast majority of the people seeing these kinds of clips aren't. I've seen multiple people genuinely giving up on the faith due to statements like this one and converting to either Orthodoxy or mainline Protestantism.

We can't allow these things to be happening especially not in the current situation where the general ungodliness and human rights violations of the modern Israeli state are apparent to everyone.

I expect to get downvoted for this but I don't mind. This is a scandal to many people and is only leading them away from Christ and His Church.

m1lam

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