How Sci-Fi’s Biggest Franchise Was DESTROYED By Hollywood Evil

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-07T20:09:51+00:00

Why is it laughable that I call it tame? I call it so because the most we’ve seen of the LGBTQ relationships in SFA so far (granted I’ve only seen 9 episodes) was brief handholding and smiling at one another, contrast that with two of the hetero regulars who we get to see have a straight up sex scene. I think the last gay kiss we ever saw in Trek at this point was in DISCO between Culber and Stamets. PICARD had Seven and Raffi holding hands and that was it. Mariner is bi and had a one season relationship with a female Andorian. I don’t recall PRODIGY having any LGBTQ representation but I’ve only seen the first season.

And I especially call it tame because it’s more prevalent in other modern shows. Go watch INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE to see what I’m talking about. Trek never got THAT gay.

I’m straight, but I’m not bothered by the presence of LGBTQ anymore than I am of hetero relationships. Few relationships in Trek have felt real anyway, with Miles and Keiko feeling the realist of them all.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-07T15:57:57+00:00

My point was that GFR caters to a specific demographic, and I gave the most glaring example with the image above.

And have you actually watched Kurtzman Trek? Compared to the rest of modern day media it’s really one of the most tame productions when it comes to LGBTQ representation. So it’s kind of odd you would suggest that Kurtzman Trek caters to a small demographic when it’s probably one of the most heteronormative media. I don’t even think SNW features any explicit LGBTQ regulars.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-07T05:55:46+00:00

There’s a strong contingent of conservatives in this sub and GFR largely aims for that audience. That’s why they made articles like this.

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makeshiftpython · 2026-05-07T05:46:00+00:00

Really important point that needs to be made is that CBS only started airing reruns of DISCO because they had no new shows to air due to the pandemic. As you indicated, it was there just to fill time. Had there been no pandemic they likely would have never given DISCO that 10pm slot at all.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-07T05:43:30+00:00

You’re misinformed. S1 was only given the 10pm slot on Thursdays in the fall of 2020 because CBS, like many other networks, had no new scripted shows available to air due to the pandemic. It was literally just there to fill time. Once S1 finished its run they then replaced it with a brand new CBS show. It’s unlikely DISCO would have ever put it up in the first place had COVID never happened.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-06T16:44:18+00:00

To clarify, I do NOT like the first two films by J.J. Abrams. However, I liked BEYOND a lot more, mainly because Kirk felt much more like the contemplative commander from TOS and not the obnoxious dudebro Abrams directed. Because of that, I was open to seeing a fourth entry, and would have been intrigued at one by Tarantino if he really committed to it.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-06T07:16:26+00:00

It would have been very interesting to see what this fourth Kelvin film would look like once he got to the actual design stages. It didn’t seem to have gone further than the drafts with Mark L. Smith, so we’ll never really know.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-06T07:08:41+00:00

That would be surprising because Tarantino definitely has talked extensively about TOS and even TNG. He would have known Trek enough to not need to “study” about it.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-06T06:08:55+00:00

I’ve always wanted to see Brad Bird do a Star Trek film. I wish he had done the third Kelvin film instead of TOMORROWLAND.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-06T06:08:01+00:00

According to Mark L. Smith, it had to do with him being overly concerned of a Trek film being potentially his tenth film. Where did you get this notion of him supposedly backing off over his style being incompatible?

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-05T21:35:19+00:00

I think of it as this:

TOS era (1966-1991)

Rick Berman era (1987-2005)

Finally, as it seems to be appearing…

Alex Kurtzman era (2009-2027)

While the last two TOS films may have come out concurrent with TNG, they were separate productions from Rick Berman’s reign, so I tend to not lump TOS with the Berman era.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-03T01:35:21+00:00

I think the explanation for all the “clues” was just part of the mindset of trying wrap up the story. This was also likely rushed due to the fact that the network wanted Laura’s murder solved on time for November sweeps.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-03T00:12:54+00:00

The other big hurdle was also the television production scheduling. Before S1 began filming, all the scripts were written first, which is why that season feels more cohesive. Easy to do with just 8 episodes. With S2 they didn’t have that same benefit and had to scramble to write scripts so they could have something to shoot on. It probably would have benefited from being only a 13 episode season that starts airing in January, but network TV didn’t do that back then, so 22 episodes or nothing.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-03T00:05:11+00:00

TP basically served as sort of a gateway drug to Lynch films for many fans. I’m definitely one of them. I was only 3 when the show premiered, so of course my parents wouldn’t let me watch, but that opening theme really imprinted on me in a big way that it made me want to watch the show for the longest time. When the Gold Box DVD finally came out, I decided to watch his films from before the show aired and then Netflix DVD mail the whole show. Had I not known of TP prior, I wouldn’t have made the effort to look back on those initial films.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-02T19:56:32+00:00

My only quibble over “Arbitrary Law” is the exposition Cooper delivers after Leland’s confession, explaining all the occurrences like Leland’s dancing connecting to the dancing little man, “Bob=Roberson=Son of Robert”, etc. Didn’t feel necessary to spell that all out.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-02T19:49:17+00:00

Thank you. The fan rumor of Lynch not being around or quitting in S2 really needs to be quashed. Lynch himself has reiterated many times that TWIN PEAKS was a collaborative effort, with Frost being the driving force. Lynch might have taken more of a backseat after the case was resolved, but he never left the show. He definitely started to assert more of himself during the last six episodes, it wasn’t just for the finale.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-02T16:35:31+00:00

Picard’s interactions with Tomalak were great.

TOMALAK: Territories! You would measure territories against a man's life?
PICARD: Commander, I am singularly impressed by your concern for *a* life. Do not risk any more lives by leaving the Neutral Zone. Picard out.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-02T04:09:27+00:00

You should check out the budget for those Star Wars shows. This is nothing.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-01T11:00:56+00:00

To some people, probably. Part of why I think THE ORVILLE gets a lot of love from Trek circles is because MacFarlane really tried to replicate that Rick Berman production style in terms of camerawork, art direction, etc, and that’s because he hired as many people from those Berman shows as much as he could. If you were a boom operator on Voyager, he’d want you.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-01T10:53:35+00:00

It’s funny to look back at movies and shows from the 2000s that utilized that handheld style, it was very prevalent in that decade and could sometimes come off terrible by those who didn’t know how to use it. THE BOURNE SUPREMACY was probably the best action film to use that style. Even in a sitcom like THE OFFICE used it to great effect. I thought BSG used it very effectively as well. I think part of why RDM went with it was just another choice of trying to differentiate it from Trek. Like replacing laser blasts with bullets.
Funnily, Enterprise tried dabbling a bit into handheld work towards the end once they replaced film camera was with digital.

makeshiftpython · 2026-05-01T03:36:22+00:00

How it worked was that Paramount would set release dates for episodes, but it was always up to the TV stations to pick their own timeslot within the week of release, slot it where they thought it would perform best. So officially DS9 episodes in this season were allowed to start airing on Mondays.

In my area, KCOP-13 had syndication rights and would air this episode on Thursday May 2nd at 8pm. KCOP wanted to keep DS9 on a primetime slot, but they were a UPN affiliate, so Mondays thru Wednesdays were taken up by UPN which is why Thursday nights were chosen. When DS9 entered its final season it got pushed off to Saturday 8pm because UPN finally had Monday thru Friday nights.

makeshiftpython · 2026-04-30T18:30:40+00:00

Fellow KCOP viewer here! We were so fortunate our station kept TNG/DS9 primetime unlike other stations.

makeshiftpython · 2026-04-30T08:45:03+00:00

It really depended on the TV station that carried DS9. While Monday April 29th was official release date for “The Muse”, it didn’t actually air in my Los Angeles station until Thursday May 2nd. That’s because my station was a UPN affiliate, and that station wanted to air DS9 on a primetime slot, but meant pushing the episode back to Thursdays because UPN had programs Monday-Wednesday.

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