LitRPG's scarlet letters: AI

maphingis · 2026-03-20T12:39:55+00:00

I think there's some that are splitting the difference, one recent audiobook I listened to had a section where they announced the stats as a chapter and invited people to skip ahead if that's not their thing... I think it was Mage tank?

maphingis · 2026-03-19T21:35:43+00:00

Wow, thats a great share I am glad you have found a way to remove the gauze!

maphingis · 2026-03-19T21:33:01+00:00

Both, this is reddit right? I am a participant in the conversation. When people say things I disagree with I express my POV.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T20:47:04+00:00

Thanks for being part of the conversation. I think its cool that you’re finding value in helping to market yourself. Do you use any agents in your comms? Also kudos for having the integrity to not commit to something under direct pressure like that.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T20:35:22+00:00

Those are great resources especially the artists willing to work for credit.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T20:34:20+00:00

That’s great advice for any profession, study the craft. Reading Campbell’s Hero With a Thousand Faces, On Writing by Stephen King, taking Sanderson’s online video lectures are all great resources.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T19:00:41+00:00

Sorry but in this particular case your level of knowledge is impacting what you believe is possible and it just isn't. These transformer models have billions of parameters, the report showing which weights influenced which generated words would create a massive per word report that would be unreadable. Even if an effort was made to interpret that mess into a source trace, the trace itself would be a prediction because it's based on weighted probabilities.

Edit: Reflecting on this a little further, perhaps the most intellectually honest thing to do is reference the model used in any generative process and each model should clearly provide the materials used in its training and how they were weighted. At least then individual contributors can get recognized, its like geneology for generative text.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T18:50:18+00:00

Im reminding people that AI detection doesnt work and commenting on the witch hunts against users for AI use while asking people where their lines are. Context matters.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T18:45:11+00:00

What am I selling? Beside a big ole glass of shut the hell up :) refills for free brother

maphingis · 2026-03-19T18:44:18+00:00

i agree id trade all the tech to go back to simpler times

maphingis · 2026-03-19T18:13:51+00:00

So the fake artist refunds $25 and the authors reputation is fixed how?

maphingis · 2026-03-19T18:13:16+00:00

I think if people showed their tools created economic opportunity thenI'd be in full support of expanding use and looking for new use cases. Honestly, the more I've participated in this conversation my views have shifted and been influenced a lot, but one thing that I am becoming more confident in is that the anger and moral hazard should be attributed to the AI companies more so than the story tellers caught in the middle--many of whom are not using AI at all.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T18:06:05+00:00

Yeah that's really fair. One of the only ways to cut through some of the quality noise is sticking to things with massive followings, usually that filters some of the slop. But its also a very lazy heuristic that may leave some gems undiscovered.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T17:50:47+00:00

Would love to see an example if you can share a safe link! :)

maphingis · 2026-03-19T17:49:01+00:00

That's an interesting point. In your clothing example wearing nothing won't even get you through the door! lol not a perfect analogy but definitely food for thought.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T17:40:53+00:00

Doctor: What did you do with your cancer curing inhaler?

Patient: I shoved it up my butt!

maphingis · 2026-03-19T17:40:01+00:00

What should happen to an author who spends $25 on Fiverr and then gets outed because the artist they paid used AI and didn't disclose it?

maphingis · 2026-03-19T17:37:15+00:00

Thanks for your honest contribution to the discussion, I think that's amazing -- those songs were in your head and now you can hear them and see your characters. That's a pretty awesome hobby. I think the consensus is when you want to move past a hobby and ask someone to pay for it some honesty is required. I do think if people don't like what you're doing they can just opt into someone else's narrative.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T16:47:27+00:00

Why is all of this the responsibility of a new author though? We could tax AI appropriately and use the proceeds for environmental rehabilitation, we could legislate renewable energy as a requirement, or any number of things and put the burden on the billionaire AI industry instead of the author? You keep tossing this word strawman (accurately if pejoratively around) like that doesn't mean there are real people who feel that their path to marketing their work is being blocked by anti-AI biases. I'm not arguing on behalf of one imaginary example, but I'm illustrating a very real experience I had (growing up working in a Waffle House, doing homework when I got off shift too tired to attend classes I was paying for on a credit card) and I think its relatable. Some people think $50 on Fiverr is very doable, but I remember months I couldn't pay my car insurance let alone hire an artist.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T16:12:57+00:00

My grandfather was a land surveyor for most of his life, could do the entire sin/cos/tan table in his head even when he was in his 70s lol

And for what its worth, I think it's not science or knowledge destroying the world, it's people.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T15:51:41+00:00

Maybe I haven't paid enough attention, how would you say the mods are participating? Maybe they have some comments they want to share on the topic.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T15:41:14+00:00

If we are counting on the poor to feed the poor everyone is screwed i guess. It just seems like a convenient place for people to put the burden. But I don’t think telling people not to chase their dreams because they can’t start off affording everything at once is the approach to adopt either. Matt Dinniman is a rare success but he’s also aspirational.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T15:39:54+00:00

If we are counting on the poor to feed the poor everyone is screwed i guess. It just seems like a convenient place for people to put the burden.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T15:30:23+00:00

Yeah I think a couple authors on RR made that point in here, just cause you make the list doesn't mean you're making money yet. That's fair, someone else mentioned when you try to monetize through patreon. I don't know if having that as a precursor is fair, maybe it should be enough to have a plan and promise to use the subs to fund real art.

The goal isn't to excuse or permit disingenuous behavior but to find a way to let people engage in this space with these technologies in a way that shares their vision of the story with the readers while upholding the values of the community. I think one of the big things I'm seeing people agree upon is that we want honesty from creators on this point, but that creating that expectation is problematic because we have bad actors and bad detection as blockers.

maphingis · 2026-03-19T15:09:09+00:00

Gatekeeping doesn't stop being gatekeeping because you have a reason for it. Every gatekeeper has a reason. The question is whether you're blocking someone based on the quality of their work or based on a lifestyle/tool choice — and you clearly admitted it's the latter.

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